Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Schnee117]

Incineroar wound up being the sixth most popular Alolan Pokémon from the big poll earlier this year.

That's pretty damn popular.

 

[Commander_Alph]

Because Litten/Torracat/Incineroar in the anime is more fun and interesting than the rest of the Pokemon cast, yes even the likes of Lycanroc and Mimikyu. (this is coming from someone who has watched the anime)

 

[RileyXY1]

Sakurai did put a lot of effort into Incineroar, with his Side Special even being based on an actual wrestling move rather than a Pokemon attack.

 

[Thewafflemaker2000]

Sora from Kingdom Hearts and Crash Bandicoot.

Would be disappointing if the pass ended without one of them

 

[PSIGuy]

Incineroar's Side-B being a move that doesn't exist in Pokemon is actually a clever reference to Incineroar's concept art in which he spits out poison (as a reference to a technique known as Asian Mist in wrestling), a move that also doesn't exist in Pokemon. It's like freeform jazz, it's about the moves that you're not seeing.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

One look at Incineroar (NO MATTER THE YEAR) would tell you that he wouldn't be popular, Mimikyu was creative, unique and factually godlike. Incineroar's addition was simply a blunder, no refuting it.

I don't think we're talking about the same Pokemon because that concept art is amazing.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Still wish they went with the original design of that saber-toothed cat. Would have been nice having another quadrupedal character not to mention a freakin saber-toothed cat.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Still wish they went with the original design of that saber-toothed cat. Would have been nice having another quadrupedal character not to mention a freakin saber-toothed cat.

Wasn't that fanart though?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Wasn't that fanart though?

It was?

Aw shucks. I wish it were legit...

 

[Ivander]

I don't think we're talking about the same Pokemon because that concept art is amazing.

And the early fanart too.

Spoiler: Large image

 

[TerminatorLOL]

One look at Incineroar (NO MATTER THE YEAR) would tell you that he wouldn't be popular, Mimikyu was creative, unique and factually godlike. Incineroar's addition was simply a blunder, no refuting it.

Unique? It's another Pikachu lookalike.

 

[SharkLord]

Sakurai added Incineroar because he wanted a wrestler character, simple as that. It was too early to tell who would be popular, and either way it's nice to have another grappler. I think Incini's the first dedicated grappler since, what, Donkey Kong? That's a pretty long time.

 

[Idon]

Unique? It's another Pikachu lookalike.

Except it's not that, that's what its entire joke is.
It's an amorphous blob of shadow hiding behind a crappy pikachu costume rather than another electric rodent.

Sakurai added Incineroar because he wanted a wrestler character, simple as that. It was too early to tell who would be popular, and either way it's nice to have another grappler. I think Incini's the first dedicated grappler since, what, Donkey Kong? That's a pretty long time.

I'd say Bowser, which granted is still a pretty damn long time.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

And the early fanart too.

That just reminds me how amazing Pokedex entries can be.

"Lucario reads its opponent’s feelings with its aura waves. It finds out things it would rather not know, so it gets stressed out easily."

I'd say Bowser, which granted is still a pretty damn long time.

He wasn't much of a grappler until his revamp in Smash 4, was he? If so, I haven't been paying much attention.

 

[Koopaul]

I will say that Smash lacks insectoid and undead fighters... Unless you count the zombie skin.

 

[TerminatorLOL]

Except it's not that, that's what its entire joke is.
It's an amorphous blob of shadow hiding behind a crappy pikachu costume rather than another electric rodent.

That still means it looks like a Pikachu...

 

[pupNapoleon]

We don't really have a goo monster. Closest thing I can think of is Muk or Grimer. Maybe Helix, but he's not that amorphous.

It's an amorphous blob of shadow hiding behind a crappy pikachu costume rather than another electric rodent.

Let me introduce you guys to each other.

 

[Idon]

That still means it looks like a Pikachu...

But the joke is it doesn't look like a Pikachu despite trying to.
That's like saying Wario and Waluigi have a hat and blue overalls ergo they're mario lookalikes and not unique.

He wasn't much of a grappler until his revamp in Smash 4, was he? If so, I haven't been paying much attention.

Well he's had Koopa Claw in Melee and Flying Slam in Brawl and beyond, both being command grabs so I think somewhat he was always intended to be a heavyweight grappler.

I will say that Smash lacks insectoid and undead fighters... Unless you count the zombie skin.

In a perfect world, we would've gotten a Scizor by now.

 

[pupNapoleon]

If we got another 'generic enemy' character, who would you want it to be?

 

[Perkilator]

That still means it looks like a Pikachu...

Yes, but only at surface-level observation.

Which I personally think is the only level you're looking at.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Well he's had Koopa Claw in Melee and Flying Slam in Brawl and beyond, both being command grabs so I think somewhat he was always intended to be a heavyweight grappler.

I didn't know the claw was a command grab. Neat. I also have to admit I thought Flying Slam was a Smash 4 addition instead of Brawl.

Shows you how much attention I paid to the guy.

 

[SharkLord]

Well he's had Koopa Claw in Melee and Flying Slam in Brawl and beyond, both being command grabs so I think somewhat he was always intended to be a heavyweight grappler.

To be fair, a lot of heavyweights have had a command grab. I was mainly thinking someone who focuses on grabs as their first priority, like Incineroar's grabs having more strength and Donkey Kong having the cargo throws. Not sure if Bowser fully counts since he seems to more focused on "armor through everything" than grabs.

In a perfect world, we would've gotten a Scizor by now.

^^^

 

[7NATOR]

There's a Question I got to Ask

If Isaac Was just a Spirit just like Geno, and didn't have his Assist Come back (or get a Base Game Mii Costume), Would he be as Popular as Geno in Speculation (or even more)?

 

[cashregister9]

I will say that Smash lacks insectoid and undead fighters... Unless you count the zombie skin.

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[Swamp Sensei]

If we got another 'generic enemy' character, who would you want it to be?

I'd probably unironically main Shy Guy.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

If we got another 'generic enemy' character, who would you want it to be?

A Lynel.

Lynels are badass.

There's a Question I got to Ask

If Isaac Was just a Spirit just like Geno, and didn't have his Assist Come back (or get a Base Game Mii Costume), Would he be as Popular as Geno in Speculation (or even more)?

No, because he's not Geno.

 

[PeridotGX]

oh boy, can't wait to partake in the discussion on Smashboards dot co-
it's incineroar

 

[Brother AJ]

Puff isn't popular, Pichu isn't popular, what are you talking about? Ivysaur's family is popular sure, but that's because of their starter status.

Sure they are. Amongst Smash fans anyway. I'm not saying every Pokemon in Smash has the same level of popularity, but all of them get a natural boost by being in such a huge game.

Incineroar is not a fan favourite in any country, if Puff and Pichu were such resounding successes they wouldn't have been cut/considered to be cut. I am so sick and tired of these three Pokemon, I have their renders on a dart board that I use every night, Mimikyu is way better in every way, he should have been in

You know, I'm not even sure if you're joking. Why are you so angry?

 

[SharkLord]

oh boy, can't wait to partake in the discussion on Smashboards dot co-
it's incineroar
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The joke comes from the song's name, which unfortunately isn't mentioned in the video. If you know your DMC songs fairly well, you'll get it.

 

[PSIGuy]

incredibly upset that beneath my post about Incineroar's Asian Mist somebody posted the concept art which has for some reason scrubbed out the Asian Mist reference. here it is for reference:

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

oh boy, can't wait to partake in the discussion on Smashboards dot co-
it's incineroar
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Better than Fire Emblem or Geno discussion.

 

[ShrimpScampi]

If we got another 'generic enemy' character, who would you want it to be?

Technically Monokuma counts as a generic enemy if you consider the Ultra Despair Girls side game, where every enemy is a variant of Monokuma

 

[PeridotGX]

Better than Fire Emblem or Geno discussion.

fire emblem and geno discussion isn't a constant reminder of my failures, an eternal reminder that one of my favorite Pokémon isn't good enough for smash.

 

[SvartWolf]

ROB is not a mecha. A mecha is a giant (usually humanoid) robot controlled by people.

Also not a mecha.

you sure none of them are piloted by canonl height olimars?... who knows.. maybe smash olimar is a mecha piloted by a tiny olimar inside.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

If we got another 'generic enemy' character, who would you want it to be?

If I could have any generic enemy ever and wasn't thinking about moveset, I'd say Chobin Hood from Secret of Mana. They are little fox archer guys that I really adore.

With moveset in mind, I might go with a Tirkin from Xenoblade or a Tonberry.

 

[Brother AJ]

Incineroar charmed the pants off me the first time I saw him. That's saying a lot since he hard deconfirmed the Grinch leak. A lot of love went into him, so it's a shame I see him get so much hate.

 

[cashregister9]

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[Rie Sonomura]

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GOD DAMMIT I WAS ABOUT TO POST THAT!

 

[7NATOR]

Low-Key, Nintendo and Microsoft are Closer than Ever.

If Nintendo wants a Smash Ultimate Deluxe, but is worried the Sales on The New Switch console won't be enough, they should release it on Xbox and PC. Not everyone is gonna buy a Switch, but you could get money from people that stick to The Other Consoles and PC.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I will say that Smash lacks insectoid and undead fighters... Unless you count the zombie skin.

This is how Bug Fables wins.

I got your undead fighter for you too.