Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Michael the Spikester]

Talking about the games helps us speculate potential movesets?

I realize that now, forgot my comment there.

 

[Shroob]

In other news, the XBOX360 is now 15 years old.


Yeah I'm never escaping this never-ending existential dread.

 

[andree123]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

 

[SharkLord]

Beyond being a cult classic, I hear Darkstalkers codified a couple fighting game mechanics, like advanced combo chains, dashing, and stronger-than-normal specials that aren't quite at the level of something like a Final Smash. Any idea on how those mechanics could be translated?

 

[Goombaic]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Neat, anything else they've said in the past other than Sora's not in? Can't find anything immediately.

 

[Shroob]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Isn't this the same person who claimed to have intricate details in knowing when and why Sora was considered impossible for Smash?


I don't deny Geno's chances, but I do doubt this person heavily.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Alright, some new speculation.

Though I have to go to bed soon.

 

[SharkLord]

Isn't this the same person who claimed to have intricate details in knowing when and why Sora was considered impossible for Smash?


I don't deny Geno's chances, but I do doubt this person heavily.

Yeah, I think I remember hearing that he's not the most trustworthy person during the pre-35th anniversary livestream era. Either way, I'm pretty skeptical on leaks in general.

 

[cashregister9]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

This post just reads like he is overly confidant in Geno and wants him in. nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Shroob]

At this point, I'm kinda just done with leaks outside of 1-2 scenarios lol.

Either:

A) Nintendo does an oopsie woopsie ****-y wucky

or

B) BIG name starts dropping **** after a Direct has been announced


Some rando spouting **** in the middle of a dry spell is just inane blabber to me at this point.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Isn't this the same person who claimed to have intricate details in knowing when and why Sora was considered impossible for Smash?


I don't deny Geno's chances, but I do doubt this person heavily.

Mondo Mega did claim to have knowledge that Sora isn't in but at the time I didn't see them add any intricate details to the claim. They also said Sora not being in was the only insider info they had.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Beyond being a cult classic, I hear Darkstalkers codified a couple fighting game mechanics, like advanced combo chains, dashing, and stronger-than-normal specials that aren't quite at the level of something like a Final Smash. Any idea on how those mechanics could be translated?

The advanced combo chains would probably be the ability to actually do light -> medium -> heavy combos that aren't just a jab. Maybe jab -> tilt -> smash?

Dashing would just be the dashing. Morrigan in particular could have air dashes tho.

The EX moves could simply require a gauge and a A+B input to reference how multiple attack buttons are needed for EX moves.

Darkstalkers is also the game that invented the idea of projectiles having different priorities. Before that, all projectiles just clanked regardless of power.

 

[Shroob]

Mondo Mega dod claim to have knowledge that Sora isn't in but at the time I didn't see them add any intricate details to the claim. They also said Sora not being in was the only insider info they had.

Oh, they said that was 'all' they had? Their exact words?

 

[PLATINUM7]

Oh, they said that was 'all' they had? Their exact words?

They said it was the only Smash info they had.

 

[ZelDan]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

I'm not really seeing alot of people losing their minds or alot of hub-bub over the post.

So this is probably nothing.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

They said it was the only Smash info they had.

In this thread, that means the same thing because Smash is the only game to ever exist.

Every other game is just people auditioning for Smash.

 

[Shroob]

They said it was the only Smash info they had.

Well, there you have it.


Move along.

 

[Spongeboob]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Geno's always "in".

 

[Simplythe1]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Oh here we go.....

 

[PLANTMAN]

I hate this guy already

Shouldn’t it be the opposite?

 

[Mamboo07]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Oh for f***'s sake, another of those leaks ruining Smash hype as usual.

 

[XorahnGaia]

Guys, if you wanna speculate about a post on Era from a so-called "insider", read more than one post on that thread.

MondoMega regularly ****posts about Geno, it's basically his main "thing" at this point.

And yeah, he also said that the Sora bit was the only Smash info he had, so there's that.

Anyway, if F*tm*n/PapaGeno are going to write a wall of text /make a quick 10 minutes monetizable video about this, they might as well contact him first to clarify if he's being honest about this.
I doubt he his for the reason I already stated, but if they did this with fakers like Markomaro they have no reason to not do this with Mondo.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Except it's not that, that's what its entire joke is.
It's an amorphous blob of shadow hiding behind a crappy pikachu costume rather than another electric rodent.

That...doesn't change the fact that it lookalike Pikachu.

That's like saying Wario and Waluigi have a hat and blue overalls ergo they're mario lookalikes and not unique.

Right. They're basically evil clones. Sloppy clones, but clones nontheless.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I mean... this probably isn't anything.

But I'm not really surprised if Geno is in at this point.

 

[DarthEnderX]

If we got another 'generic enemy' character, who would you want it to be?

Eggplant Wizard.

If Darkstalkers ever makes a return and gets the success it deserves, one thing it needs is having more cryptid-based characters as a means of expanding its lore.

Only thing Darkstalkers needs to expand it's lore is a time travel story to bring in Red Earth characters.

.......Cryptid characters is literally what Darkstalkers is all about. It'd be weirder if the newcomers weren't cryptids.

Not really. It's about old movie monster archetypes more than anything. Vampires, werewolves, mummies and the like are not cryptids. Sasquach is the only DS character based on a cryptid.

 

[ShotoStar]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Geno is always simultaneously in and not in. Geno is the Schrodinger's Cat of Smash Bros, he'll always have a chance. That said I doubt this particular leak. This person said Sora wasn't in?

While of course we know Sora most likely won't be in I believe NateDrake, Imran Khan or someone along those lines, y'know one of Da Big Leakers(tm) already said Sora wouldn't be in so that could easily be piggybacking on what Da Big Leakers(tm) said. Of course that said Geno could, and I hope he does, get in anyway.

 

[Cosmic77]

One hundred and twenty-six Geno leaks, one hundred and twenty-six leaks!! You share a link, argue a bit, one hundred and twenty-seven Geno leaks!!

But seriously, the minute someone brings up Geno in a alleged leak or rumor, your expectations should drop like a rock. That's not to say Geno will never be in a rumor that turns out to be true, but so many of them have turned out to be wrong that it's honestly amazing how little people need to see before becoming convinced a leak might have some merit.

 

[TerminatorLOL]

But the joke is it doesn't look like a Pikachu despite trying to.
That's like saying Wario and Waluigi have a hat and blue overalls ergo they're mario lookalikes and not unique.

Doesn't really matter what the joke is, it literally looks like a bedsheet Pikachu.

And yes bad guy versions of game heroes are not unique either. I'm a Shadow fanboy but I would never use the word unique to describe him.

 

[I.D.]

What's up with g*no supporters talking like they have leaked info then getting mad/making fun of people for assuming they have leaked info? And then repeating the process like nothing ever happened. Is this some sort of ploy to keep g*no in public discourse as much as possible?

 

[ceterisparibus]

Said ERAposter always ****posts consistently so i dunno why people are suddenly paying attention. I don't even know why the sora comments were even believed to begin with (i can believe he's not happening thanks to other rumors, but that doesn't mean the poster's info is even reliable to begin with)

there's also the caveat that he ran around with the info on the board unlike what most "leakers" do but that's another thing altogether

 

[XorahnGaia]

Said ERAposter always ****posts consistently so i dunno why people are suddenly paying attention. I don't even know why the sora comments were even believed to begin with (i can believe he's not happening thanks to other rumors, but that doesn't mean the poster's info is even reliable to begin with)

The thing about the Sora leak from Mondo is that at least that time he shared that without his usual tongue in cheek "Random thing I want to be true is happening because I said so" attitude.
He was straight to the point and made it clear from the start that what he was saying can be backed up by actual insider info he had.

It's also important to acknowledge that "Nintendo tried to get the rights to Sora but they couldn't because Disney didn't let them" isn't exactly an earth-shattering revelation: it's already a reasonable conclusion on his own and it wasn't even the first time we heard something like this as actual insider information: tons of rumors from the begin of the DLC speculation cycle like the Ballot results rumor from 5ch already said something similar to this, and of course Imran Khan mentioned this very same story long before Mondo's post.

Now with his Geno bit, it was always framed as a ****post, and only recently he started treating it as him knowing for sure that he's in, likely because by doing so it can rile up both the Geno supporters (always looking for more confirmation for their precious puppet even though the like to think that the "evidence" they already have is enough to prove that he's in) and Geno haters that are sick and tired of hearing about him.
So like you said, it isn't really worth it to keep into consideration either way.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 17 | No More Herobrine OT

I don't really have any characters I'm interested in at the moment. I think something like Ryu Hayabusa, Geno, Arle, and Rillaboom are a realistic spread but there are so many ways that I can go. In terms of characters that I think are realistic though, I would naturally be looking at ST...

www.resetera.com

So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.

Hayabusa’s in it so it must be real.

Seriously though, I wouldn’t take this guys word for gospel. I don’t think they’ve had a lot going for them in terms of credibility.

 

[ceterisparibus]

The thing about the Sora leak from Mondo is that at least that time he shared that without his usual tongue in cheek "Random thing I want to be true is happening because I said so" attitude.
He was straight to the point and made it clear from the start that what he was saying can be backed up by actual insider info he had.

It's also important to acknowledge that "Nintendo tried to get the rights to Sora but they couldn't because Disney didn't let them" isn't exactly an earth-shattering revelation: it's already a reasonable conclusion on his own and it wasn't even the first time we heard something like this as actual insider information: tons of rumors from the begin of the DLC speculation cycle like the Ballot results rumor from 5ch already said something similar to this, and of course Imran Khan mentioned this very same story long before Mondo's post.

Now with his Geno bit, it was always framed as a ****post, and only recently he started treating it as him knowing for sure that he's in, likely because by doing so it can rile up both the Geno supporters (always looking for more confirmation for their precious puppet even though the like to think that the "evidence" they already have is enough to prove that he's in) and Geno haters that are sick and tired of hearing about him.
So like you said, it isn't really worth it to keep into consideration either way.

Nah irregardless of it i'm not going to believe something wholesale from someone who hasn't been proven, much less when said poster has a history of being a troll. It would be better to listen to people who actually have a track record rather than give the latter any attention at all (and let's be real, there's been a lot of indication about sora being hard to get from other people).

That said i'm still surprised that if the other rumors are to be believed, nintendo actually tried to get sora twice and failed.

 

[Shroob]

I'm just not gonna believe **** unless Nintendo, or a company they worked with, leaks it themselves, or a big namer drops it right after a Direct gets announced, or minutes before the presentation.


Get the **** out of here with your "HEY GUYS, GUESS WHAT" leaks in the middle of a dry spell, that **** works when the game isn't out yet but not now.

 

[XorahnGaia]

Let's give the final blow to this dead horse :

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...-more-herobrine.305297/page-236#post-52274579

Feel free to read whatever you want from the fact that I'm not directly answering the question, lol.

When I said I had no other Smash info besides those Sora details, I was telling the truth. Whether or not that has changed since; who knows.

Considering that the Sora leak wasn't too long ago (he shared it on the 6th of October) and that he is still keeping with his usual attitude I'll personally stick with my "He's doing his bit" thought.

And I realize that I'm basically playing his game by sharing his message here, but at the same time, I think it would be unfair to not look at the whole picture and to withhold even the tiniest of detail.

EDIT: Mondo responded again and made it perfectly clear that it was all just a tease:

But for real though, this message especially extends to lurkers from other sites (I know some of you are out there): don't listen to anything I have to say. I don't have a track record to fall back on, i'm just random forum poster. I'm not looking for attention, and I couldn't care less about clout (if I did i'd take my business to Twitter); I just like teasing this community I spend a lot of time with.

Honestly I'd almost want to share this with the Geno thread just to save them the work of adding "Mondo's leak" to The List© if I didn't already know that it would fall to deaf ears lol.

 

[Wunderwaft]

YO an insider just leaked something for Smash!

Really? What's the leak?

It's a vague ****post from someone claiming Geno is in

Throw it in the trash bin containing the rest of the Geno "leaks".

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's funny how people argue that Sakurai has full freedom about adding Pokemon meaning Sakurai can add whatever he wants besides starters blissfully unaware that he himself said that he asks Game Freak what the next big hit's supposed to be for the upcoming/current generation when deciding.



Also it's funny how we're arguing about someone's credibility when their one claim to fame isn't even something they've said first, I remember Imram being the first to say Nintendo failed to get Sora because Disney was demanding too much

 

[Shroob]

Let's give the final blow to this dead horse :

https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...-more-herobrine.305297/page-236#post-52274579

Considering that the Sora leak wasn't too long ago (he shared it on the 6th of October) and that he is still keeping with his usual attitude I'll personally stick with my "He's doing his bit" thought.

And I realize that I'm basically playing his game by sharing his message here, but at the same time, I think it would be unfair to not look at the whole picture and to withhold even the tiniest of detail.

EDIT: Mondo responded again and made it perfectly clear that it was all just a tease:


Honestly I'd almost want to share this with the Geno thread just to save them the work of adding "Mondo's leak" to The List© if I didn't already know that it would fall to deaf ears lol.

I mean

You're not wrong. Remember Gamestop? How for it were to have been right, it would have to have implied that either:

A) Gamestop, and no other major insiders, had access to Nintendo's E3 plans, despite them pulling out all the way back in March
or
B) A Direct was ****canned sometime in June, and Steve WASN'T shown in it, despite Steve coming after MinMin?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean

You're not wrong. Remember Gamestop? How for it were to have been right, it would have to have implied that either:

A) Gamestop, and no other major insiders, had access to Nintendo's E3 plans, despite them pulling out all the way back in March
or
B) A Direct was ****canned sometime in June, and Steve WASN'T shown in it, despite Steve coming after MinMin?

Bro you're forgetting a hell of a lot more because it'd mean someone at Nintendo didn't hear about E3 getting canned, nobody corrected them for months, nobody corrected them when asking to make press kits, nobody caught them when making press kits, people only stopped them after sending out to GameSpot and for nobody to have caught this when giving GameSpot an embargo. There's probably more steps I'm missing but it's just peak lunacy to think all of these things could have gone wrong

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So the rumours of Fortnite and League of Legends characters are still standing and considered more credible than Geno?

2020 really has turned the world upside down.