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To be honest, TWEWY 2 looks more up my ally in turns of looks and combat compared to the first game. I may actually play this one
Same Here honestly. It seems to have more of a Real Time element to it, and doesn't have the need for Touch Screen movement. Though I Personally hope Neku is in this game somewhere because This Main character doesn't look as Slick as Neku. he still looks cool but yeah
 

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No, I'm suggesting Sakurai goes "What Pokemon do you think will be popular" to which Game Freaks says "We don't know for sure yet but starters are a safe bet" to which Sakurai then chooses to do starters.


These don't go against what I said and I even said Lucario was already known to the public before Sakurai begun working on Brawl. I'm going to take this as you deliberately not reading what I say from now on
Starters are always a safe bet, yes, but that doesn't mean they'd be the only Pokemon Game Freak would show to Sakurai.

Would they show every new Pokemon? No. I don't see how a sentient sand castle or a literal sheep can be seriously suggested, but I doubt they only show three options.
 
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NEW TWEWY GAME I REPEAT NEW TWEWY GAME THIS IS NOT A DRILL

Minamimoto is a party member, so I’m inclined to believe this is a prequel showing before he became a Reaper. Maybe we’ll see more about the Shinjuku Reaper’s Game too, which later ended in the Inversion erasing Shinjuku as seen in A New Day

ALSO I LOVE THE MEGANE GIRL SHES A TOTAL NERD
That looks great. Glad they went with a completely new combat system. The first games just doesn't work without the hardware of the DS.
 

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Starters are always a safe bet, yes, but that doesn't mean they'd be the only Pokemon Game Freak would show to Sakurai.
This again doesn't go against my claims as all it does is say we both agree that starters are a safe bet for Sakurai on including popular mons, which is why I say it's likely why he got to see their concept art and not get a free picking of every mon the gen would introduce. I think we're done if we're just gonna go in circles
Btw I just realized your prequel claim doesn't make sense, TWEWY prides itself on being accurate to youth culture at the time and Rindo has a smartphone
 

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This again doesn't go against my claims as all it does is say we both agree that starters are a safe bet for Sakurai on including popular mons, which is why I say it's likely why he got to see their concept art and not get a free picking of every mon the gen would introduce. I think we're done if we're just gonna go in circles

Btw I just realized your prequel claim doesn't make sense, TWEWY prides itself on being accurate to youth culture at the time and Rindo has a smartphone
I later revised it once I saw the English version of the trailer
 

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This again doesn't go against my claims as all it does is say we both agree that starters are a safe bet for Sakurai on including popular mons, which is why I say it's likely why he got to see their concept art and not get a free picking of every mon the gen would introduce. I think we're done if we're just gonna go in circles
I'd still say it's a coincidence Sakurai went for a starter twice in a row, but maybe the odds of it happening are like, 30% or something like that because GF would be like "here's the starters that are safe bets and here's some stuff we think is really cool", so the idea of it happening twice in a row feels possible.
 
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I'd still say it's a coincidence Sakurai went for a starter twice in a row, but maybe the odds of it happening are like, 30% or something like that, so the idea of it happening twice in a row feels possible.
If the odds are about 30% then that means he was showed the starters and only a few other options both times and not the full catalogue. Thanks for agreeing with me that Sakurai chose what was guaranteed to be popular though!
 

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We can put that Geno comment to rest then.

Tansut the guy who leaked Cloud for SSB4 and TWEWY info called him out on it.
Yeah this is a pretty big blow to Geno's chances.
I guess you could argue that Tansut may not have heard about him because there are less "moving parts" to SMRPG compared to FF or DQ, but then again this isn't even the first time that he said something like this ( the first time was last summer).
 
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I feel like that will be mostly said by geno fans

That’s what my gut tells me somehow
Nah I see a bunch of Nintendo purists constantly froth at the mouth when people use new info to speculate on third parties even though both the people speculating by using new info on third parties and the Nintendo purists do the same for first parties.
 

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If the odds are about 30% then that means he was showed the starters and only a few other options both times and not the full catalogue. Thanks for agreeing with me that Sakurai chose what was guaranteed to be popular though!
The thing about starters though is that they're popular because they're starters.

Everyone who plays the new game will see at least two of these starters in their first playthrough, so they're guaranteed to be exposed to millions of people and therefore, guaranteed to become highly popular.

Anything else Game Freak might show is more like "oh, I think this one will do well because we had fun making it"

Whether I agree with you or not doesn't matter because I still believe Sakurai never chooses a Pokemon just because it's popular. Pikachu (obviously because mascot), Mewtwo and Charizard are probably the only exceptions, and for the latter he actually still gave some love to the other Gen 1 starters rather than only milking Charizard like TPC does simply because he wanted to do a tag-team character.
 
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Yeah this is a pretty big blow to Geno's chances.
I guess you could argue that Tansut may not have heard about him because there are less "moving parts" to SMRPG compared to FF or DQ, but then again this is even the first time he said he hasn't heard anything about him ( the first time was last summer).
Considering that nobody else in the thread seemed to react to that comment, I'm not sure if it means much. (don't think he'd put "hoping this is true" if it was meant to say that he's not getting in, but maybe that's just me)
 
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Same Here honestly. It seems to have more of a Real Time element to it, and doesn't have the need for Touch Screen movement. Though I Personally hope Neku is in this game somewhere because This Main character doesn't look as Slick as Neku. he still looks cool but yeah
If its a sequal, I dont think he would be in there but we will see
I honestly love the look of the MC
 

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If its a sequal, I dont think he would be in there but we will see
I honestly love the look of the MC
I think Neku will appear but for spoilery reasons if you cleared A New Day

hint: Coco Atarashi is involved
 
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Nah I see a bunch of Nintendo purists constantly froth at the mouth when people use new info to speculate on third parties even though both the people speculating by using new info on third parties and the Nintendo purists do the same for first parties.
No really my guy tells me they will

I feel like they don’t want anything up against their 24 year old one time appearance doll getting it
 

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Yeah this is a pretty big blow to Geno's chances.
I guess you could argue that Tansut may not have heard about him because there are less "moving parts" to SMRPG compared to FF or DQ, but then again this is even the first time he said he hasn't heard anything about him ( the first time was last summer).
Not sure how it would. It isn't like IIRC Tansut isn't 100% accurate or involved with Smash in terms of leaks.
 

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I mean yeah but they're not the ones I referred to, they're such easy targets that it feels forced to bring them up
Both are Square characters is obviously what he means, what's really forced is getting out the grinding axe against "nintendo purists" out of nowhere
 

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I mean in my eyes, so far the Square Enix character that we get correlate with their popularity as a series and sometimes promote their new game (look at Hero), I doubt that the will let Geno slide off from their grip when there's other candidate in the company that is well cared than Mario RPG.
 

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I think Neku's definitely getting something in Smash, especially given that Trials of Mana & Octopath got some promotion in that respect.

Whether its as an actual fighter, a Mii Costume with another Square Enix character, or just a big spirit event I don't know. But we'll be seeing him in Ultimate in some form before 2021 is over.
 

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I think Neku's definitely getting something in Smash, especially given that Trials of Mana & Octopath got some promotion in that respect.

Whether its as an actual fighter, a Mii Costume with another Square Enix character, or just a big spirit event I don't know. But we'll be seeing him in Ultimate in some form before 2021 is over.
Watch that he's one of those characters we don't see coming like :ultjoker:

The way I've seen it, Neku could be used as an alternative assuming plans to get Sora failed.
 
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NEW TWEWY GAME I REPEAT NEW TWEWY GAME THIS IS NOT A DRILL

Minamimoto is a party member, so I’m inclined to believe this is a prequel showing before he became a Reaper. Maybe we’ll see more about the Shinjuku Reaper’s Game too, which later ended in the Inversion erasing Shinjuku as seen in A New Day

ALSO I LOVE THE MEGANE GIRL SHES A TOTAL NERD
Oh boy, can't wait to see how this is gonna fit in the future KH lore :4pacman:
 

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I think Neku's definitely getting something in Smash, especially given that Trials of Mana & Octopath got some promotion in that respect.

Whether its as an actual fighter, a Mii Costume with another Square Enix character, or just a big spirit event I don't know. But we'll be seeing him in Ultimate in some form before 2021 is over.
The fact we got two Square Spirit Events but no costumes yet (aside from the DQ ones with Hero) definitely bodes well for another Square character I feel
 

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So, a ResetERA insider that is verified by admins is making a claim that Geno is in the fighters pass 2.
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lmao, I wish this site would stop blinding take everything in that thread word, we like to joke alot in the thread guys
 

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The fact we got two Square Spirit Events but no costumes yet (aside from the DQ ones with Hero) definitely bodes well for another Square character I feel
Them and Capcom feel like the two companies I feel somewhat safe in predicting will get characters. I think Smash has had too many curveballs in previous selections to really say specifically which ones, but given the depths of options in both it feels likely.
 
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Technically Monokuma counts as a generic enemy if you consider the Ultra Despair Girls side game, where every enemy is a variant of Monokuma :4pacman:
Eh... that's like counting any of the Pokemon, though. Or Yoshi.
Which, I don't. But- if it meant this gif could be posted, then it's a good thing.
 

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The heck is a Haruka Amami?
Who the **** is Haruka Amani?
She's from Idolm@ster, a Bandai Namco Rhythm game that is surprisingly popular in Japan center around Japanese Idol.





Tbh, never played the game but I watch the anime which is really good and better than Love Live (if you know what that even is).



Long story short Haruka Amami is part of the original cast member in the game and Haruka has been regarded as the poster child of Im@s as well as the leader, cause there have been multiple iteration of the game with vastly different cast of character and even a male spin-off which always overshadowed the original.
 
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Considering that nobody else in the thread seemed to react to that comment, I'm not sure if it means much. (don't think he'd put "hoping this is true" if it was meant to say that he's not getting in, but maybe that's just me)
My point wasn't that his comment was a straight-up disconfirmation, but it still a new bit of information that doesn't do the puppet any favor.

And yeah, Tansut doesn't have a perfect track record: he said that Hero was going to have both female and male alts and he was the one who said that TWEWY 2 was going to be a temporary Switch exclusive...eh, even then those were mostly details and it's still proof that he has connections with Square.

I still think his comments regarding Geno are something to keep in mind, though again I can concede that they are not exactly a death sentence.
 

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She's from Idolm@ster, a Bandai Namco Rhythm game that is surprisingly popular in Japan center around Japanese Idol.





Tbh, never played the game but I watch the anime which is really good and better than Love Live (if you know what that even is).



Long story short Haruka Amami is part of the original cast member in the game and Haruka has been regarded as the poster child of Im@s as well as the leader.
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im a Idolm@ster Side M type of girl myself
 

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My point wasn't that his comment was a straight-up disconfirmation, but it still a new bit of information that doesn't do the puppet any favor.

And yeah, Tansut doesn't have a perfect track record: he said that Hero was going to have both female and male alts and he was the one who said that TWEWY 2 was going to be a temporary Switch exclusive...eh, even then those were mostly details and it's still proof that he has connections with Square.

I still think his comments regarding Geno are something to keep in mind, though again I can concede that they are not exactly a death sentence.
Didn’t he also ALSO say the TWEWY info had nothing to do with Smash? His exact words were “Not Smash!”

...what if he’s wrong there too...?
 
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