Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[PeridotGX]

Did you know that (with the exception of Gen 7), the Regi theme has gotten a new rendition every generation? Pretty crazy.

I think listening to the Galar rendition was what got me on the Regigigas hype train.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Missed opportunities for music you say?

• Fly Octo Fly ~ Ebb & Flow (Octo) (Splatoon 2 Octo Expansion)
• Uncontrollable (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
• Aqua Road (Sonic Forces)
• Volcanic Rim (Street Fighter IV)
• Theme of Captain Falcon (F-Zero GX)
• Life Will Change (Persona 5)
• Shambhala (Fire Emblem Three Houses) screw God Shattering Star I want my sudden dubstep

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I have modded my Switch recently and finally given Mementos the tracklist it deserves.

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Finally, someone gives Nothing Is Promised some attention

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I have modded my Switch recently and finally given Mementos the tracklist it deserves.

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Do Midgar next.

 

[Goombaic]

It's because we're so spoiled that 1000 tracks isn't enough

I guess there's just something weird about having popular tracks missing while obscure albeit great tracks like Ring a Ding is in. Rather than complain about it again though, how about we celebrate for once the dream crossovers made in the music arrangements like the Daytona guy remixing an F-Zero medley and Banjo-Kazooie's theme being remixed by the Danganronpa dude.

 

[cashregister9]

Missed opportunities?
Come On!
Overworld Super Mario Land
What I'm Made Of
Wrapped In Black
One Winged Angel
Nasty Majesty
Fierce Battle
Kill Or Be Killed
Shambhala
God Shattering Star
Literally Anything from Metal Gear Rising

 

[Hinata]

Do Midgar next.

Gimme a list of some good Final Fantasy songs, and I'll look into it.

Finally, someone gives Nothing Is Promised some attention

Persona Q2's OST is a banger.

 

[PeridotGX]

I guess there's just something weird about having popular tracks missing while obscure albeit great tracks like Ring a Ding is in. Rather than complain about it again though, how about we celebrate for once the dream crossovers made in the music arrangements like the Daytona guy remixing an F-Zero medley and Banjo-Kazooie's theme being remixed by the Danganronpa dude.

They got the Undertale guy to do a Homestuck song.

crazy

 

[SneakyLink]

My biggest soundtrack disappointment is not every song from previous games returned.

Sure there's the licensed ones that probably had to be cut (Strawberry Flower's Pikmin songs and Checker Knights off the top of my head) but what about the non-licensed ones? This includes the original versions of Forest/Nature Area, Molgera, and the SSB4 remix of the Diamond and Pearl Wild Pokémon theme just to name a few.

Also no music from Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts, but that's another story.

As for music that could come with potential future newcomers, if we happen to get any sort of Valve character, I hope one song from Team Fortress 2 is included. I know it seems unlikely, but I do enjoy that game's soundtrack and think at least one song could fit into Smash... which is saying a lot considering Environmental Noises exists.

 

[cashregister9]

As for music that could come with potential future newcomers, if we happen to get any sort of Valve character, I hope one song from Team Fortress 2 is included. I know it seems unlikely, but I do enjoy that game's soundtrack and think at least one song could fit into Smash... which is saying a lot considering Environmental Noises exists.

I actually made a dream song list for if Gordon Freeman gets into smash and I need an excuse to share it

Spoiler: Long list ahead!

Victory music: Hazardous Environments

Remixes:
Something Secret Steers Us
Diabolical Adrenaline Guitar
Vortal Combat
Triage At Dawn
You're Not Supposed to Be Here
Credits Closing Theme
Still Alive
Team Fortress 2

Regular music:
CP Violation
Sector Sweep
Nepal Monastery
Bust
Military Precision
What Kind Of Hospital Is This?
Nuclear Mission Jam
Planet
Guard Down
Klaxon Beat
Anti-Citizen
Want You Gone
Robots!
Chocolate Helicopter
Battle 1

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I actually made a dream song list for if Gordon Freeman gets into smash and I need an excuse to share it

Spoiler: Long list ahead!

Victory music: Hazardous Environments

Remixes:
Something Secret Steers Us
Diabolical Adrenaline Guitar
Vortal Combat
Triage At Dawn
You're Not Supposed to Be Here
Credits Closing Theme
Still Alive
Team Fortress 2

Regular music:
CP Violation
Sector Sweep
Nepal Monastery
Bust
Military Precision
What Kind Of Hospital Is This?
Nuclear Mission Jam
Planet
Guard Down
Klaxon Beat
Anti-Citizen
Want You Gone
Robots!
Chocolate Helicopter
Battle 1

Best collection of Valve music I've ever seen for a hypothetical Smash newcomer.

Makes me want characters like Gordon or the Heavy to make the cut even more.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

In terms of missed opportunity for music in the game, then I'll go with what I said when we talked about this before which is every boss theme in Metal Gear Rising. It's why I do think Raiden would be cool in Smash.
Here's a few of them that I really like.

Spoiler: Long list

 

[Brother AJ]

Would anyone else like a gen 8 rep just so you get ahold of the music?

 

[Hinata]

In terms of missed opportunity for music in the game, then I'll go with what I said when we talked about this before which is every boss theme in Metal Gear Rising. It's why I do think Raiden would be cool in Smash.
Here's a few of them that I really like.

Spoiler: Long list

I actually added all the Metal Gear Rising boss themes to my build of the game. They're all such good tracks.

 

[Shroob]

Would anyone else like a gen 8 rep just so you get ahold of the music?

As much as I rag on Gen8, it at the very least got the music right. The game has a pretty good soundtrack(though it's still far from my favorite in the series tbh).

 

[SharkLord]

In terms of missed opportunity for music in the game, then I'll go with what I said when we talked about this before which is every boss theme in Metal Gear Rising. It's why I do think Raiden would be cool in Smash.
Here's a few of them that I really like.

Spoiler: Long list

A part of me think Raiden could be used to cap off the pass, or at least the third-parties, to bookend Snake being the first guest fighter in Smash history. The logical part of me highly doubts it, though.

 

[RGFS]

A part of me think Raiden could be used to cap off the pass, or at least the third-parties, to bookend Snake being the first guest fighter in Smash history. The logical part of me highly doubts it, though.

I love everything about fitting endings and going full circle but it just doesn't seem to feel like how Sakurai or Smash rolls given past precedent.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

A part of me think Raiden could be used to cap off the pass, or at least the third-parties, to bookend Snake being the first guest fighter in Smash history. The logical part of me highly doubts it, though.

I love everything about fitting endings and going full circle but it just doesn't seem to feel like how Sakurai or Smash rolls given past precedent.

I also think there'd be some issues with people being upset because Raiden only got in because Metal Gear was the first 3rd party series included.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Gimme a list of some good Final Fantasy songs, and I'll look into it.

Battle Theme - Final Fantasy I
Chaos Shrine - Final Fantasy I
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy II
Crystal Cave - Final Fantasy III
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy III
Final Battle - Final Fantasy III
Red Wings (Cecil's Theme) - Final Fantasy IV
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy IV
Within the Giant - Final Fantasy IV
Boss Theme - Final Fantasy IV
Battle with the Four Fiends - Final Fantasy IV
Final Battle - Final Fantasy IV
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy V
Boss Theme - Final Fantasy V
Battle on the Big Bridge - Final Fantasy V
Overworld (Terra's Theme) - Final Fantasy VI
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy VI
Decisive Battle - Final Fantasy VI
Dancing Mad - Final Fantasy VI
Let the Battles Begin! - Final Fantasy VII (Already in the game)
Fight On - Final Fantasy VII (Already in the game)
Opening Theme, Bombing Mission - Final Fantasy VII
Main Theme - Final Fantasy VII
One Winged Angel - Final Fantasy VII
JENOVA - Final Fantasy VII
Aerith's Theme - Final Fantasy VII
Shinra Corporation - Final Fantasy VII
Midgar Slums - Final Fantasy VII
Motorcycle Chase - Final Fantasy VII
Rufus Welcoming Ceremony - Final Fantasy VII
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy VIII
The Man with the Machine Gun - Final Fantasy VIII
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy IX
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy X
Otherworld - Final Fantasy X
To Zanarkland - Final Fantasy X
Memories of Waves and Lights - Final Fantasy X-2
Blinded By Light - Final Fantasy XIII
Veiled in Black - Final Fantasy XV
Stand your Ground - Final Fantasy XV
Up for the Challenge - Final Fantasy XV

List might be a little big, just wanted to get as much variety as I could. Feel free to pick and choose what you want (if you want to do it of course, not forcing you or anything).

 

[ZoroCarlos]

I know everyone agrees Wario Land needs more music in the game but...

Wario World tho?

 

[Hinata]

Battle Theme - Final Fantasy I
Chaos Shrine - Final Fantasy I
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy II
Crystal Cave - Final Fantasy III
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy III
Final Battle - Final Fantasy III
Red Wings (Cecil's Theme) - Final Fantasy IV
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy IV
Within the Giant - Final Fantasy IV
Boss Theme - Final Fantasy IV
Battle with the Four Fiends - Final Fantasy IV
Final Battle - Final Fantasy IV
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy V
Boss Theme - Final Fantasy V
Battle on the Big Bridge - Final Fantasy V
Overworld (Terra's Theme) - Final Fantasy VI
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy VI
Decisive Battle - Final Fantasy VI
Dancing Mad - Final Fantasy VI
Let the Battles Begin! - Final Fantasy VII (Already in the game)
Fight On - Final Fantasy VII (Already in the game)
Opening Theme, Bombing Mission - Final Fantasy VII
Main Theme - Final Fantasy VII
One Winged Angel - Final Fantasy VII
JENOVA - Final Fantasy VII
Aerith's Theme - Final Fantasy VII
Shinra Corporation - Final Fantasy VII
Midgar Slums - Final Fantasy VII
Motorcycle Chase - Final Fantasy VII
Rufus Welcoming Ceremony - Final Fantasy VII
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy VIII
The Man with the Machine Gun - Final Fantasy VIII
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy IX
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy X
Otherworld - Final Fantasy X
To Zanarkland - Final Fantasy X
Memories of Waves and Lights - Final Fantasy X-2
Blinded By Light - Final Fantasy XIII
Veiled in Black - Final Fantasy XV
Stand your Ground - Final Fantasy XV
Up for the Challenge - Final Fantasy XV

List might be a little big, just wanted to get as much variety as I could. Feel free to pick and choose what you want (if you want to do it of course, not forcing you or anything).

Damn, that's a good list. I'll look into it.

I always felt like Midgar needs more music.

 

[Knight Dude]

I just want SF3 era music.
Jazzy NYC
Killer Moon
Kubo
Sao Paulo
China Vox
You Blow My Mind
Nile
Spunky
Beats in my Head
Twilight
Get On A Train

All good tracks.

 

[Will]

I know everyone agrees Wario Land needs more music in the game but...

Wario World tho?

i honest-to-god believe nintendo legitimately forgot they made wario world

 

[Goombaic]

As much as I rag on Gen8, it at the very least got the music right. The game has a pretty good soundtrack(though it's still far from my favorite in the series tbh).

It sucks that I feel alienated when it comes to SwSh's music because I have the complete opposite opinion about it. :/

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Battle Theme - Final Fantasy I
Chaos Shrine - Final Fantasy I
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy II
Crystal Cave - Final Fantasy III
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy III
Final Battle - Final Fantasy III
Red Wings (Cecil's Theme) - Final Fantasy IV
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy IV
Within the Giant - Final Fantasy IV
Boss Theme - Final Fantasy IV
Battle with the Four Fiends - Final Fantasy IV
Final Battle - Final Fantasy IV
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy V
Boss Theme - Final Fantasy V
Battle on the Big Bridge - Final Fantasy V
Overworld (Terra's Theme) - Final Fantasy VI
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy VI
Decisive Battle - Final Fantasy VI
Dancing Mad - Final Fantasy VI
Let the Battles Begin! - Final Fantasy VII (Already in the game)
Fight On - Final Fantasy VII (Already in the game)
Opening Theme, Bombing Mission - Final Fantasy VII
Main Theme - Final Fantasy VII
One Winged Angel - Final Fantasy VII
JENOVA - Final Fantasy VII
Aerith's Theme - Final Fantasy VII
Shinra Corporation - Final Fantasy VII
Midgar Slums - Final Fantasy VII
Motorcycle Chase - Final Fantasy VII
Rufus Welcoming Ceremony - Final Fantasy VII
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy VIII
The Man with the Machine Gun - Final Fantasy VIII
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy IX
Battle Theme - Final Fantasy X
Otherworld - Final Fantasy X
To Zanarkland - Final Fantasy X
Memories of Waves and Lights - Final Fantasy X-2
Blinded By Light - Final Fantasy XIII
Veiled in Black - Final Fantasy XV
Stand your Ground - Final Fantasy XV
Up for the Challenge - Final Fantasy XV

List might be a little big, just wanted to get as much variety as I could. Feel free to pick and choose what you want (if you want to do it of course, not forcing you or anything).

the one FFXIII song
not Saber’s Edge

Bruh

yeah I know that games like marmite but Saber’s Edge > Blinded by Light, that is FACTS

 

[ZoroCarlos]

Could we stretch the line of Final Fantasy content outside of main series and include freaking like... God in Fire from Dissidia 012? or is that too far?

 

[Guynamednelson]

I actually made a dream song list for if Gordon Freeman gets into smash and I need an excuse to share it

Spoiler: Long list ahead!

Victory music: Hazardous Environments

Remixes:
Something Secret Steers Us
Diabolical Adrenaline Guitar
Vortal Combat
Triage At Dawn
You're Not Supposed to Be Here
Credits Closing Theme
Still Alive
Team Fortress 2

Regular music:
CP Violation
Sector Sweep
Nepal Monastery
Bust
Military Precision
What Kind Of Hospital Is This?
Nuclear Mission Jam
Planet
Guard Down
Klaxon Beat
Anti-Citizen
Want You Gone
Robots!
Chocolate Helicopter
Battle 1

Best collection of Valve music I've ever seen for a hypothetical Smash newcomer.

Makes me want characters like Gordon or the Heavy to make the cut even more.

Still needs a bit more Left 4 Dead. Maybe TANK!?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Oh here’s the potd

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— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) October 25, 2020

 

[osby]

Me: "I don't care about music talk"
This thread: lists missing FF tracks and doesn't include any XIV ones, not even Oblivion
Me: "Gods are testing my patience"

 

[CapitaineCrash]

On the topic of missed opportunity in music, one franchise that I rarely see discussed is Paper Mario. It's a shame we only have like 3 music from that franchise despite having his own stages. here's some great song that would fit perfectly in Smash.

TTYD:
Battle theme
Shadow sirens battle theme
Bowser battle
Final battle

Super paper Mario:
Ready... Go!
I'm not nice
Brobot L type battle
The ultimate show

Sticker star:
Petey piranha
Megasparkle goomba
Tower power pokey
kamek battle
Gooper blooper
Final bowser battle

Color splash:
Battle theme
Ludwig battle
Lemmy battle
Roy battle
Wendy battle
Bolack bowser battle phase 1

Origami king:
Battle with king Olly

I could probably make a similar case with the Mario & Luigi series too, but I feel like Mario & Luigi's music absence is less weird considering that there's no stage for the sub-series.

 

[Miles of SmashWiki]

I could probably make a similar case with the Mario & Luigi series too.

Still no actual M&L Superstar Saga music, just a forgettable track from the remake's side mode. I've been wanting that battle theme since Brawl, but apparently it's not in the cards...

 

[DuskFleur]

Speaking of music, a big reason why I want Rex and/or Sora in Smash is so they can bring in some awesome music with them.

I think Rex could bring in songs from each Xenoblade game, not just 2.

ANY of the remixes from Xenoblade 1’s Definitive Edition
The Torna DLC battle theme
Bionis Shoulder battle from Future Connected
Uncontrollable
The key we’ve lost
Wir fliegen
NO.EX01

As for Sora...come on, it’s Kingdom ****ing Hearts! Yoko Shimomura never disappoints!

From more upbeat songs such as
All for One
Working Together
Hand in Hand
Future Masters
Busting’ Up on the Beach

To the way more dramatic and climactic, like
Rage Awakened
Vector to the Heavens
Edge of Existence (Scala ad Caelum)
Forza Finale (aka Oscurita di Xehanort)
The 13th Dilemma
The 13th Struggle
Wave of Darkness
Nachtflugel
Lord of the Castle

And a million other songs that I would list but I’m too tired to do so.

 

[DarthEnderX]

if you knew a series you worked on was in smash and someone asked you what your thoughts on them being in smash was what would your answer be.

"My NDA with Nintendo prevents me from talking about how our character is coming to Smash."

 

[JamesDNaux]

Xenoblade got a grand total of one remix as a medley in its debut and didn't get any new songs for Ultimate.

At least I never have to hear anything from X in Smash, so it balances out.

Though the single most perplexing lack of a song ever is any variation of Grunty's theme.
How on earth did Klungo's theme get remixed but not even a rip of Grunty's theme got in?

 

[Perkilator]

Another big offender for music omissions is anything from FE Fates that isn’t just the main theme over and over again.

 

[cashregister9]

Another big offender for music omissions is anything from FE Fates that isn’t just the main theme over and over again.

They didn't even add the best version of Lost in thoughts

 

[PeridotGX]

While the Regi train is still live, here's what Music I would add with Regigigas (obviously with most things remixed, and usually going for the most version). I'm trying to fill out all the "major" battle songs, with more attention given to Gen 8.

Kanto Legendaries - X/Y
Champion theme - LGPE
Giovanni's Theme - USUM
Raid Battle - Go!

Ho-Oh Theme - HG/SS
Lugia Theme - HG/SS
Legendary Beasts - GSC
Lance/Red's theme - GSC

Weather Trio - RSE
Regis - RSE
Lati theme (Soaring in the Sky) - OR/AS
Wally's Theme - ORAS
Maxie/Archie's theme - RSE

Lake Trio - DPP
Minor Legendaries - DPP
Giratina's Theme - Platinum
Cyrus Theme - DPP
Gym Theme - DPP
Frontier Brain - PT/HG/SS
Cynthia's Theme (I know it's already in the game but would another, more faithful version really hurt anything?)

N's Theme - BW
Ghetsis's Theme - B2W2
Team Plasma Theme - BWB2W2
Champion Alder's theme - BW
Champion Iris's Theme - B2W2
PWT Final Battle - B2W2
Minor Legendries - BWB2W2

Kalos Legendaries - X/Y
Lysandre Theme - X/Y

Tapu Theme - SMUSUM
Ultra Beast - SMUSUM
Ultra Necrozma - USUM
Champion Hau - USUM

Gym Battle - SWSH
Wolves in the Mist - SWSH
VS Marnie - SWSH
VS Wild Pokemon - SWSH
VS Trainer - SWSH
VS Piers
VS Chairman Rose
VS Hop
VS Eternatus (Phase 1)
VS Eternamax Eternatus
VS Leon
Battle Tower - Toby Fox
VS Mustard - IoA
VS Avery/Klara - IoA
VS Peony - CT
VS Galarian Birds - CT
VS Calyrex - CT
VS Horse - CT
VS Calyrex on a Horse - CT
Legendary Dynamax Adventure - CT

...I got kinda carried away there. 53 songs...

 

[ZelDan]

Missed opportunities with music?

I'll go ahead and bring up that I wish Megaman didn't rely heavily on MM1-3 for it's music, and especially got more from the X series:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

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Megaman 10 OST: Solar Inferno - Solar Man Theme

Megaman 10 Original SoundtrackSolar Inferno - Solar Man Theme

youtu.be

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Megaman X4 - Sky Lagoon (Opening stage X)

The song for the intro stage, which plays in while playing as X.If i'm not mistaken, X shares this theme with Zero in Project X Zone, a crossover RPG featuri...

youtu.be

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Mega Man X6 OST T09 Blaze Heatnix Stage Magma Area

youtu.be

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Mega Man Zero 2 OST - T34: Supreme Ruler (Vs. Elpizo - Final Battle, Phase 1)

Track 34of Mega Man Zero 2's Soundtrack.

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Mega Man Zero 4 OST - T31: Falling Down (Vs. Dr. Weil - Final Battle, Phase 2)

Track 31of Mega Man Zero 4's Soundtrack.

youtu.be

 

[Guynamednelson]

Missed opportunities with music?

I'll go ahead and bring up that I wish Megaman didn't rely heavily on MM1-3 for it's music, and especially got more from the X series:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Megaman 10 OST: Solar Inferno - Solar Man Theme

Megaman 10 Original SoundtrackSolar Inferno - Solar Man Theme

youtu.be

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Megaman X4 - Sky Lagoon (Opening stage X)

The song for the intro stage, which plays in while playing as X.If i'm not mistaken, X shares this theme with Zero in Project X Zone, a crossover RPG featuri...

youtu.be

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Mega Man X6 OST T09 Blaze Heatnix Stage Magma Area

youtu.be

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

youtu.be

Mega Man Zero 2 OST - T34: Supreme Ruler (Vs. Elpizo - Final Battle, Phase 1)

Track 34of Mega Man Zero 2's Soundtrack.

youtu.be

Mega Man Zero 4 OST - T31: Falling Down (Vs. Dr. Weil - Final Battle, Phase 2)

Track 31of Mega Man Zero 4's Soundtrack.

youtu.be

This is how Zero can still win.

 

[Will]

Missing music?

That's it, that's the post. All of it.