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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Al-kīmiyā'

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You could say the same to Reimu, what makes Arle such a big deal? :191:
Reimu seems older than Arle, but frankly, a lot of the fandom for the younger characters in Touhou creeps me out.

It's ironic that you people are acting like the people in the Tangled picture. I even got warned, because I must be trolling to have such an unpopular opinion, right? By the way, please take two seconds to delete that picture from your quote. It's annoying seeing the same picture spammed over and over.
 

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Reimu seems older than Arle, but frankly, a lot of the fandom for the younger characters in Touhou creeps me out.

It's ironic that you people are acting like the people in the Tangled picture. I even got warned, because I must be trolling to have such an unpopular opinion, right? By the way, please take two seconds to delete that picture from your quote. It's annoying seeing the same picture spammed over and over.
Arle is older than Reimu, unless they use the preschool design from some of the Madou game which i doubt.

Same age as Sonic
 

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This is a unpopular opinion, but I agree. It's do or die time for Geno and if he doesn't make it into Ultimate I feel like it's game over for him. SMRPG is already 24 years old, by the next Smash it will almost be 35. It's now or never, bust or must.
Honestly, What I could see with Geno, Especially if Rumors of a 2nd SMRPG or a Remake pan out, is that he Might not become Playable in this game, But with the NEW SMRPG, He'll get more merit since he makes another Real Apperance, and then next Smash he has more merit to become Playable

Same with Isaac if he doesn't become Playable
 

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What Characters do you Think are Very Likely for Smash 6, if they are not DLC
i have a feeling that the bulk of smash 6's newcomer lineup will be characters that either had a notable role in the base game (mainly assist trophies) or were disconfirmed during dlc

so like waluigi, isaac, bomberman, officer howard, ring fit trainee, a resident evil character, mayyyyyybe alucard or travis
 

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It's ironic that you people are acting like the people in the Tangled picture. I even got warned, because I must be trolling to have such an unpopular opinion, right?
Assuming something like that of an innocent fanbase isn't an unpopular opinion, it's a stupid ignorant one. There's a difference.
 
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Honestly, Waluigi is the only character who I feel like is a safe bet. Him and one of the latest Pokémon and FE characters. I'll have to see how Astral Chain and Ring Fit are handled in the following years. Not sure about Geno.

Personally, I think now is Geno's best chance. Once the next game comes out, he'll likely be competing with both new characters and cut characters. I just think it'll be difficult for Sakurai to find much of a reason to prioritize him over other characters, specifically third-parties who were cut and people really want back.
 

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The funny thing is that Castlevania fits so well into Smash and feels like it always belonged that it kind of gets less attention as a result of that. Simon specifically is such an "of course" character it feels hard to believe he only came in via Ultimate.
I feel similarly about Banjo, K Rool, and Ridley. It's so weird to me to think they wouldn't be playable if I went back just one Smash game. It's a shame the Belmonts don't get talked about much in comparison. Their addition was equally as huge.
 

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Next in line for Fire Emblem would be a remake, and next in line is...

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Ah **** it's Marth with a horse. At least FE4 is a good game though
I remember ChronoBound ChronoBound 's stories about the great FE wars of Brawl and how people were saying that Sigurd was this super popular character that was meant to be in but got cut in Melee in favor of Roy and **** and it ended up beign nothing but bull'. God i miss Chrono's stories those were so much fun.
 

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- Xenoblade doesn't need more characters. It would be fine if they did get one, but let's avoid making it the next Fire Emblem please.
Fearmongering about Xenoblade becoming the new Fire Emblem never gets old.
Still waiting for that Sakurai bias to kick in and give me a second character after 6 years. It literally has less characters and the same amount of music arrangements that Fire Emblem had when it debuted in Melee.
 

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Also Can I Ask a Question

Not that I Plan on doing this Exactly, but let's say Hypothetically, You wanted to put your Prediction List as a "Leak", but Also Perhaps the Prediction has a chance at it being the Actual Final 4 Characters.

Is it better to put it as a "Leak" and pretend to show you have Inside Info, or is it just better to put it as a Prediction and look like a Prophet?
 

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Fearmongering about Xenoblade becoming the new Fire Emblem never gets old.
Still waiting for that Sakurai bias to kick in and give me a second character after 6 years. It literally has less characters and the same amount of music arrangements that Fire Emblem had when it debuted in Melee.
Nobody is "fearmongering" here, I just don't think a series is immediately owed another character because it decides to change its main cast every game. Like it or not, Fire Emblem is the most applicable parallel. I have no strong feelings one way or the other about whether or not Rex actually gets in, even though he personally doesn't excite me that much.

It's hyperbole, I don't genuinely believe Xenoblade will suddenly have 8 characters across the next two games. I wish you the best in getting a new character, I just don't think it NEEDS one. More music would have been nice though.

Also, this may sound dumb, but considering my MW is a first party who doesn't have their series represented on the roster at all, I think Xenoblade is pretty lucky to have gotten that opportunity in Smash 4. I would prefer to see more new series get that privilege as well.

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Also to seriously answer the question of who could be added in the next game... it's way too early to say, but it's fun to think about. One of the big reasons why we can't make too many assumptions though is because this game may see significant cuts. Or maybe we'll get Ultimate ported over and over again. I think these characters have a pretty good shot either way.

Waluigi - He's the new Ridley, except he's from an even bigger series and is wanted by a casual audience in addition to the hardcore fans. I doubt that will subside and doubt it will be ignored.

Tom Nook - Animal Crossing is massive and this guy is one of the biggest Nintendo characters still absent from Smash. While his potential to be distinct from Villager and Isabelle is debatable, I think there's more than enough to work with. He can use his tail to whack people and fly around, Timmy and Tommy can come in to assist with some attacks, he can swing around giant bell bags. Nothing to worry about here.

Octoling - Maybe an alt, maybe an echo, maybe a semiclone, maybe fully original with Splatoon 2 weapons. I dunno, all I do know is that I'd be surprised if they aren't playable in any capacity in the future. Splatoon is one of Nintendo's biggest modern successes and with Inkling here to stay there's plenty of room for additional content.

Skull Kid / Midna - Zelda is overdue for someone new, and I think by the next game they won't be able to ignore this any longer. Both of these characters are very beloved and well known despite their significance mostly being regulated to a single game. I think Skull Kid has a slight edge on account of Majora's cult status but I think both of them are great candidates.
 
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I remember ChronoBound ChronoBound 's stories about the great FE wars of Brawl and how people were saying that Sigurd was this super popular character that was meant to be in but got cut in Melee in favor of Roy and **** and it ended up beign nothing but bull'. God i miss Chrono's stories those were so much fun.
We need a FitMC - someone who can take something utterly unimportant and make it sound like an epic war story.
 

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We need a FitMC - someone who can take something utterly unimportant and make it sound like an epic war story.
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"The Smash Bros. community was so desperate in the drought of information in front of them that they've sought help from the pornography industry in the hopes that someone would have information pertaining to the next all-star fighter. However, their prophet... was merely a guise, as 'HotGirlVideos69' was nothing but another mirage in the ongoing desert that was Smash news."
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Does anyone here feel like the Belmont bois are some of the most underrated Ultimate newcomers? Everyone is always talking about Isabelle, Joker, K. Rool, Banjo & Kazooie, ect but I barely feel like anyone praises or gives constant attention to the Belmont bois. They're so fun to play and are seriously some of Ultimate's best newcomers.
I think the Belmont's suffer from bad timing. Castlevania is pretty much dead right now and with modern Konami and don't see it coming back. I feel like Castlevania in Smash would have been huge if it was made earlier in Smash 4 with Sonic, Mega man and Pac-man. Also I recall that pretty much every leak at the begining of Ultimate had Simon so the reaction was like"oh he's finally there".


I think that it's kind of similar to Hayabusa. He would be a super cool adition, but he make so much sense and has been in so many leak that at this point the overall reaction would be "they finally did it" and wouldn't really blew the internet (not that every character need to blew the internet to be good, just that some characters make less noise when they're in).
 

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I think the Belmont's suffer from bad timing. Castlevania is pretty much dead right now and with modern Konami and don't see it coming back. I feel like Castlevania in Smash would have been huge if it was made earlier in Smash 4 with Sonic, Mega man and Pac-man. Also I recall that pretty much every leak at the begining of Ultimate had Simon so the reaction was like"oh he's finally there".


I think that it's kind of similar to Hayabusa. He would be a super cool adition, but he make so much sense and has been in so many leak that at this point the overall reaction would be "they finally did it" and wouldn't really blew the internet (not that every character need to blew the internet to be good, just that some characters make less noise when they're in).
Yeah, but Castlevania is HUGE and should have gotten a better response from the fans when the Belmont bois got into Ultimate.
 

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Does anyone here feel like the Belmont bois are some of the most underrated Ultimate newcomers? Everyone is always talking about Isabelle, Joker, K. Rool, Banjo & Kazooie, ect but I barely feel like anyone praises or gives constant attention to the Belmont bois. They're so fun to play and are seriously some of Ultimate's best newcomers.
I still love every second of them...in fact i even want more (trevor echo, playable alucard plus another stage and more music)

Still, wouldnt mind if they, buff them a little you know.. like.. once? please? since release now there are tons of characters that do better what they do, they arent the online noob stompers they were before :c. (not even buff their projectiles, but maybe give them a little more surviving power?)

my only gripe with the belmonts is that theyfeel so castlevania, i really regret that there isnt aadventure/subspace emisary mode to play as them. in plataformer action.
 

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"The Smash Bros. community was so desperate in the drought of information in front of them that they've sought help from the pornography industry in the hopes that someone would have information pertaining to the next all-star fighter. However, their prophet... was merely a guise, as 'HotGirlVideos69' was nothing but another mirage in the ongoing desert that was Smash news."
"How a stick BROKE Smashboards"

The oldest Smash brothers forum, Smashboards, has a lot of strange history, but this one takes the cake. One day, a user mentioned that we lack a fighter that fights with a club. another mentioned that Villager's stick is a club. This lead to a heated debate that lasted weeks.
 

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What Characters do you Think are Very Likely for Smash 6, if they are not DLC
The obvious ones are the popular first-parties, which seem to benefit in the context of Smash 6 by virtue of lasting popularity, easy access, and the fact that the popular third-parties are either secondary/supporting characters that don't seem to be favored by DLC or are successful new IPs that got spirited away before they even got a chance. These would be:
  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Waluigi
  • Dixie Kong
  • Krystal
  • Lyn
  • Legionis
  • Ring Fit Trainee
We'd also get the most recent Fire Emblem protagonist and one of the new Pokemon; Probably a starter, though it's possible we could get another Lucario situation. Probably the next Xenoblade character too.

EDIT: Forgot Tom Nook and the Octolings. Probably should've mentioned Isaac, since his inclusion for SSBU isn't a guarantee. Mostly I was thinking of already-represented series and new releases

I also forgot potential third-parties, assuming their companies stay. If they do, Alucard and a new Sonic rep seem like they're in a pretty good spot. I also predict out rising new indies will be big enough to get some inclusions by then.
 
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If it's MUGEN that means already repped series get plenty of new characters as well. Do you want Hyper God Angel Violent Dark Robo-Luigi?
I meant MUGEN in the sense that the crossover aspect is just ridiculous at this point. Obviously the limitations still need to be there (I don't want to see Peter Griffin in Smash for one), but I want that "here's Mario and Sonic fighting Steve from Minecraft on Shadow Moses Island" kind of feeling, but even broader than what we have now.
 

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"How a stick BROKE Smashboards"

The oldest Smash brothers forum, Smashboards, has a lot of strange history, but this one takes the cake. One day, a user mentioned that we lack a fighter that fights with a club. another mentioned that Villager's stick is a club. This lead to a heated debate that lasted weeks.
Good to know my absolutely correct statement that the stick is a club still stands strong throughout Smashboards culture.
 

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I feel like we will get another Xenoblade character before Ultimate is over. Whether it's Rex or Elma, I feel like one of them will be one of the remaining 4 fighters in Fighter's Pass 2.
 

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I remember ChronoBound ChronoBound 's stories about the great FE wars of Brawl and how people were saying that Sigurd was this super popular character that was meant to be in but got cut in Melee in favor of Roy and **** and it ended up beign nothing but bull'. God i miss Chrono's stories those were so much fun.
I should mention, Chronobound wasn't the one that made up that story, he merely made an anecdote about how there were certain "Sigurd Fans" that tried to propoagate this rumor.
 

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"The Smash Bros. community was so desperate in the drought of information in front of them that they've sought help from the pornography industry in the hopes that someone would have information pertaining to the next all-star fighter. However, their prophet... was merely a guise, as 'HotGirlVideos69' was nothing but another mirage in the ongoing desert that was Smash news."
"It was at this moment the speculators knew, they ****ed up."

Still, wouldnt mind if they, buff them a little you know.. like.. once? please? since release now there are tons of characters that do better what they do, they arent the online noob stompers they were before :c. (not even buff their projectiles, but maybe give them a little more surviving power?)

my only gripe with the belmonts is that theyfeel so castlevania, i really regret that there isnt aadventure/subspace emisary mode to play as them. in plataformer action.
I'd honestly buff the synergy in their kit. Their gameplay niché is that they wall people out. but the projectiles are almost too centralizing IMHO. And the whip attacks are a bit too linear, even if it's true to the text. Maybe change Holy Water so it's not an auto-ledge trap and shorten the whip a little, but give the whip attacks some more versatility (by changing their hitboxes a bit so their tilts hit at diagonal angles, more suited for follow ups like the projectiles) and focus a bit more on the Cross perhaps?
 
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