No, I understand the 'why'. I'm asking 'why does it matter.
Well, it could potentially help us narrow down who the next DLC fighter is. I dunno about you but I consider that kind of knowledge valuable. Not groundbreaking or definitive, mind, but valuable all the same.
People have thrown around the "OH! BASE GAME GLITCHES MEAN THAT A CHARACTER'S BEING WORKED ON!" since the game comes out, but actual legitimate, hard evidence and proof has never been put forward for the case aside from "HOLY CRAP GUYS X HAS A GLITCH AND THIS CHARACTER COULD HAVE BEEN USED AS A BASE!"
What do you mean there's been no hard evidence? I already listed the hard evidence in my previous post. I pointed out how Little Mac was based on Captain Falcon, Bayonetta was based on Zero Suit Samus, and Ridley was based on Charizard. I wasn't making **** up when I said that, I wasn't being all conspiratorial like "WELL THEY LOOK SORT OF SIMILAR SO THEY COULD'VE BEEN USED AS A BASE!!1", that's actually the case.
- For Little Mac, allow me to quote SmashWiki:
- "Interestingly, Little Mac shares a few animations with Captain Falcon. This includes some of his poses when knocked back with a weak attack, swing animations for battering items such as a Beam Sword or a Home Run Bat, and animations while buried or stunned. This has led many to believe that Captain Falcon's model was used as a base for creating Little Mac's model."
- For Bayonetta, look here.
- For Ridley, again, allow me to quote SmashWiki:
- "Strangely, Ridley has code for gliding, despite the mechanic not returning from Brawl, and Ridley himself not being playable or cloned from a playable character in Brawl."
- "Upon further inspection, the code is identical to Charizard's, which has been carried over since Brawl, suggesting that Charizard was used as a template for some aspects of Ridley's creation."
Explain to me how this isn't hard enough evidence that support this hypothesis?
I wrote my opinon about why MH is likely in this
post.
I dunno, this just seems to be reiterating the whole relevancy argument yet again, which I'm still not convinced is enough to argue a character is more likely. Also, I'm not keen on your position that Monster Hunter has only now become super mega global popular and thus more likely to join Smash. And as I've mentioned earlier, this isn't the first time Monster Hunter has gotten their own dedicated Directs. I really don't think this is as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.
I'm just going to pick at this point.
Firstly, do we know for certain that Mii Swordfighter and Duck Hunt were absolutely used for Hero and Banjo? It is a good guess to make, but to my knowledge we don't have anything like Piranha Plant or Min Min where we found the leftover data of the characters used to build them (Bowser Jr. and Captain Falcon respectively) in their files. So the assumption that those two glitches characters have to be connected to the newcomers may be based entirely on speculation and not on absolute fact. Adding to this, Captain Falcon at least to my memory had no majorly reported glitches before Min Min's addition, so it's not even a surefire way to guess which character is coming.
On top of that, as said before, there's been a number of glitches in Ultimate that haven't led to anything or at least haven't conclusively been connected to the DLC newcomers. One glitch I can recall is one from 3.0.0 where Samus had a visual glitch involving her Grapple Beam if it was used in the air, none of the FP1 newcomers had Z-airs, especially within the timeframe that the glitch popped up as they would've been working on Hero, Banjo, and Terry at the time based on Sakurai's team working in threes, so it potentially meant nothing and no character came from it.
Ultimately, it's just not a strong means to prove why a character is coming. There's a number of glitches that haven't led to a newcomer, there's no guarantee that a glitch will point to the exact newcomer we think it will, and there's no guarantee that the character being used to build the newcomer will even have a glitch. It's just not a reliable means to guess, and it can easily mean nothing with all the variables in play.
Fair enough. Again, I don't believe this kind of theory is air tight or anything, but I do believe that there's enough here to worth looking into at the very least.
So? How does that affect Geno's chances one way or the other?
Well, if a company is so goddamn anal about their franchises that they don't even want them near the other third-party content, then at the very least that would indicate that we're in for another SquareEnix character this pass which, while it's not a guarentee that that character would be Geno, the possibility's still there.
That's actually worse because it implies a greater degree of insider separation than I thought. The further away from the prime source you get, the more insider info becomes a game of deception telephone, which increases the chances of leakbait.
Which is par for the course for leakers. I mean, it's why these people tend to form networks and sit on information they've heard before going all in and making it public. Just because you hear something from one source doesn't mean it's confirmed legit, and it may take several months to a year of corroborating your information with others you trust before you can definitively verify the information you're given.
That said, from what I've heard leakbait doesn't tend to really be used much, if at all. I think the last time it was used for Smash was the whole "7 Squares Leak" that had other SquareEnix character names floating around in order to hide Hero and trip up leakers.
Oh. Well, it still wouldn't make much sense for all of those names save Mallow and Smithy to be costumes anyways, especially considering his other leaks have been entirely uniform with regards to what they're for.
Isn't this false and one of the developers said they were afraid of a takedown while a discord leak or whatever specifically said because someone in it was getting into Ultimate?
As far as I know, that's totally false. All that's known for certain is that they mysteriously took the mod down one day, and
according to one of the devs it had nothing to do with Nintendo directly threatening them with legal action, but rather they took it down based on the recommendations they got from one Ryan Morrison, a video game attourney.
Because one person is clearly lying in that case, and lying about the former makes no sense because there's nothing stopping someone from revealing they signed an NDA if that indeed happened, leading me to believe the much more likely possibility of the other developer messing with Geno/Waluigi fans.
- Spend years working on a mod for Brawl pro bono.
- Include Geno and Waluigi as characters.
- Wait a few years.
- Take the mod down without directly stating why to own the Genobros and Waluigibros.
Yeah I agree, that sounds much more likely.