Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[zeldasmash]

Honestly this just whole SEGA situation feels something like this lmao

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And that's not everything: Yakuza 3-5 Remastered, Puyo Puyo 2 releasing on December, Alex Kidd DX for 2021, and there's more lol

Is part of that more a NiGHTS game? That'd be swell. Not knocking the other games but....NiGHTS, man.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

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On random news that I never expected to see, we have this.

This is the one fangame I don't really mind Nintendo taking down. Should have bought the project to make sure it never sees the light of day again like those porn parodies they bought in the 90's lmao

 

[3BitSaurus]

On random news that I never expected to see, we have this.

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...Well. Guess we know what hotgirl69's "soon" image tease was probably meant to be.

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

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On random news that I never expected to see, we have this.

Alright, that's it. Now 2020 is ruined.

 

[Playstation Guy 1000]

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On random news that I never expected to see, we have this.

since Nintendo took it down, does that mean it's cannon to the mario universe.

 

[TheShiningAbsol]

You guys remember how they took down AM2R and then we got Samus Returns?

I think Nintendo Switch is about to have more than games.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Is part of that more a NiGHTS game? That'd be swell. Not knocking the other games but....NiGHTS, man.

If it makes you feel better, Balan Wonderworld is coming out in March.

 

[SNEKeater]

Granted, you COULD argue that it's mostly just Yakuza and anime games, but that's besides the point. Sega isn't just Sonic, despite popular belief.

Not offense but, anime games? What kind of definition is that? Maybe I'm missing something but to me that way to define those games feels more superfluous than anything. Nope, these are not "anime games". Persona 5 has nothing to do with 13 Sentinels, Streets of Rage 4 has nothing to do at all with Sakura Wars, and so on.
I mean yeah maybe these games have anime aesthetic, but each one is completely different from the rest. There's no such thing as anime genre to begin with.

Persona 5 is Persona 5, 13 Sentinels is 13 Sentinels, Streets of Rage 4 is Streets of Rage 4 and Sakura Wars is Sakura Wars.

 

[Speed Weed]

I was soooooo upset they took him out in Transformed

to me it wasn't even opa-opa specifically, i'm upset that they cut all of the weirder characters and basically only kept the sega crossover usual suspects until people practically begged for ryo to come back

but hey at least we got vyse

 

[chocolatejr9]

Not offense but, anime games? What kind of definition is that? Maybe I'm missing something but to me that way to define those games feels more negative than anything. Nope, these are not "anime games". Persona 5 has nothing to do with 13 Sentinels, Streets of Rage 4 has nothing to do at all with Sakura Wars, and so on.
I mean yeah maybe these games have anime aesthetic, but each one is completely different from the rest. There's no such thing as anime genre to begin with.

Persona 5 is Persona 5, 13 Sentinels is 13 Sentinels, Streets of Rage 4 is Streets of Rage 4 and Sakura Wars is Sakura Wars.

Sorry, I was referencing a post someone made. Though you shouldn't underestimate the lengths people are willing to go to discredit something...

 

[SNEKeater]

Sorry, I was referencing a post someone made. Though you shouldn't underestimate the lengths people are willing to go to discredit something...

Oops, didn't know. My bad then!

 

[PeridotGX]

I'm really enjoying this conversation we're all having, because as much as we find some others' claims to be ridiculous, I think this is a great opportunity to learn more about the gaming industry as a whole, as well as the business aspects that play a major role. At least for me, I'm enjoying this because I get to speak, and when I'm proven wrong or offered another point of view, I'm learning! (Wow I sound like a loser)

before like five minutes ago I didn't know SEGA had hotels and movie production. Weird news.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

Granted, you COULD argue that it's mostly just Yakuza and anime games, but that's besides the point. Sega isn't just Sonic, despite popular belief.

Lets honest here, those are teams that make Yakuza and those "anime" games are still way more talented then Sonic Team.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

You guys remember how they took down AM2R and then we got Samus Returns?

I think Nintendo Switch is about to have more than games.

Random text so the mods don't count this as spam
Edit: And I think I already regret posting this...

 

[Rie Sonomura]

You guys remember how they took down AM2R and then we got Samus Returns?

I think Nintendo Switch is about to have more than games.

S U P E R L E M M E S M A S H B R O S .

peach used to lemme smash but peach is smashin link. link is a hoe

 

[Schnee117]

to me it wasn't even opa-opa specifically, i'm upset that they cut all of the weirder characters and basically only kept the sega crossover usual suspects until people practically begged for ryo to come back

but hey at least we got vyse View attachment 286384

Everyone knows Danica Patrick is the most iconic Sega character, what a good roster choice

 

[Captain Shwampy]

These "SEGA IS MORE THAN SONIC" post always forget they announced a open world PSO like 2 months ago and it puzzles me they dont bring up

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Aw Fudgenuggets we're talkin' about porn again.


Let's hope that reveal comes sooner rather than later.

 

[Flyboy]

Sorry, I was referencing a post someone made. Though you shouldn't underestimate the lengths people are willing to go to discredit something...

As much as I like Matt McMuscles oh my god it was the biggest headass take ever seeing that from him in a year where we got Streets of Rage 4, Phantasy Star Online 2 finally being localized, a new Daytona, Alex Kidd remade, a Super Monkey Ball port, a new Space Channel 5, and more. Like heck I miss Outrun and all but are you seriously going to tell me a new Virtua Fighter is something you want so bad that you're willing to discredit all the rest especially in a world where much better 3D fighters are making big splashes? Cmon.

 

[Strong-Arm]

the idea sega is doing badly when streets of rage 4 came out this year is hilarious lmao

 

[cashregister9]

the idea sega is doing badly when streets of rage 4 came out this year is hilarious lmao

I agree with you but SOR 4 wasn't developed by SEGA they just gave them the license, that doesn't really discredit it though

 

[zeldasmash]

You guys remember how they took down AM2R and then we got Samus Returns?

I think Nintendo Switch is about to have more than games.

This is some heretical **** right here.

Though Nintendo did run love hotels so I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[AceAttorney9000]

Slayer and Chief becoming roommates has to be one of the craziest things I've slept in late and woken up to.

And I know the conversation has moved on from this topic, but here's my two cents on the whole "X should totally buy Y and acquire the Z franchise" thing from a few pages back: the only companies I want to see buy and be bought are Nintendo buying Konami and/or EA... not because I want Nintendo to get bigger, but because Konami and EA have failed as video game companies, and their respective IPs (Castlevania, Metal Gear, Bomberman, Silent Hill, Burnout, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Dead Space, etc.) deserve way better.

 

[3BitSaurus]

You guys remember how they took down AM2R and then we got Samus Returns?

I think Nintendo Switch is about to have more than games.

Didn't Nintendo once dabble in the love hotel business? Maybe they want a return to form!

Aw Fudgenuggets we're talkin' about porn again.


Let's hope that reveal comes sooner rather than later.

Nice wording you got there.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Aw Fudgenuggets we're talkin' about porn again.


Let's hope that reveal comes sooner rather than later.

comes sooner rather than later

but yeah I getchu

 

[CapitaineCrash]

If it makes you feel better, Balan Wonderworld is coming out in March.

As someone who love 3d platformer games, I really don't feel good about Balan wonderworld. The first presentation was promising, not super exciting but it looks cool, but the trailer in the last partner showcase just killed my hype. It looks so ugly and stiff, the universe isn't as charming as the cgi trailer make it seems and it just look soulless. The game makes me think of Yooka-laylee more than Nights (which in case it's not clear, is a bad thing).

 

[Strong-Arm]

so interesting question someone brought up I was talking to. If Axel DOES get in

would he even have his SoR4 moves or alt cause that game came out this year (sure its been in development for a bit) would it be too late for that version to make an appearance in smash at this point? Some people i know think if he gets in wed just get the classic version and not one based on SoR4 cause of that

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Nice wording you got there.

but yeah I getchu

/headdesk

I hate everything.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

Everyone knows Danica Patrick is the most iconic Sega character, what a good roster choice

Don't forget Heavy weapons guy, that's my favorite sega all star.

 

[cashregister9]

so interesting question someone brought up I was talking to. If Axel DOES get in

would he even have his SoR4 moves or alt cause that game came out this year (sure its been in development for a bit) would it be too late for that version to make an appearance in smash at this point? Some people i know think if he gets in wed just get the classic version and not one based on SoR4 cause of that

I don't think they would have anything because it was not developed by SEGA there is a chance that they would work with the Devs of SoR 4 to add stuff though. But in that event I think the game might be just a bit too new

 

[SKX31]

Honestly this just whole SEGA situation feels something like this lmao

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And that's not everything: Yakuza 3-5 Remastered, Puyo Puyo 2 releasing on December, Alex Kidd DX for 2021, and there's more lol

Football Manager stands in the distance, smiling. While it sells tons each year and has real life top tier clubs using it to scout players.

Didn't Nintendo once dabble in the love hotel business? Maybe they want a return to form!

Damnit dude, now I can hear George Takei's Oh My ringing through my head.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Damnit dude, now I can hear George Takei's Oh My ringing through my head.

Think about it:

it's the perfect occasion to celebrate Mario's birthday... with the launch of Love Hotel Mario!

 

[DarthEnderX]

If anyone buys SEGA I hope it's Nintendo - their stories as Video Game Giants are so entwined it would be a fitting conclusion for SEGA.

Same with Konami and Sony

Eh...everything I like about Konami was on Nintendo systems long before Sony was a thing. Metal Gear. Contra. Castlevania. Goemon. Bomberman.

the idea sega is doing badly when streets of rage 4 came out this year is hilarious lmao

You know that's not enough right? Don't get me wrong, SoR4 is great. But that's like saying "Capcom made Mega Man 11, they're doing great now!" One small release like that is not enough for a company that size.

 

[chocolatejr9]

As someone who love 3d platformer games, I really don't feel good about Balan wonderworld. The first presentation was promising, not super exciting but it looks cool, but the trailer in the last partner showcase just killed my hype. It looks so ugly and stiff, the universe isn't as charming as the cgi trailer make it seems and it just look soulless. The game makes me think of Yooka-laylee more than Nights (which in case it's not clear, is a bad thing).

To be fair, they were showing the Switch version. The original trailer (for Xbox) is a lot better.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

As someone who love 3d platformer games, I really don't feel good about Balan wonderworld. The first presentation was promising, not super exciting but it looks cool, but the trailer in the last partner showcase just killed my hype. It looks so ugly and stiff, the universe isn't as charming as the cgi trailer make it seems and it just look soulless. The game makes me think of Yooka-laylee more than Nights (which in case it's not clear, is a bad thing).

Well if what I've seen of NiGHTS is any indication of what the gameplay was like, then the game has basically nothing to do with NiGHTS anyway.

EDIT: 100% agree with you on the soulless part. Can't wait to explore super unique locations filled with childhood whimsy like...wind land.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

I always prefered the more amercian Sega games than their japanese ones due to their charm with certain exceptions, but calling Streets of Rage "anime" is such a laughable statement. I can understand it with Yakuza, or Sakura Wars, those clearly are geared towards more japanese tropes, but SOR?

***** HAVE YOU HEARD THE MUSIC OF THE SERIES?

This is not calling Yuko a "Plagiarist" but Streets of Rage's influences from the character designs, to the stage aesthetic, to it's bloody music is all clearly inspired by American culture of the late 80's and early 90s. It's probably the most "American" Japanese Sega Property they have aside of Sonic.

 

[Dark Bagel]

Think about it:

it's the perfect occasion to celebrate Mario's birthday... with the launch of Love Hotel Mario!

"Hey dad, what's this weird new eshop ga-"
"JUNIOR AVERT YOUR EYES"

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

Eh...everything I like about Konami was on Nintendo systems long before Sony was a thing. Metal Gear. Contra. Castlevania. Goemon. Bomberman.

I agree, i associate Konami far more with Nintendo than Sony aside of Metal Gear. and if im honest i fear what Sony will do with Konami's properties.

I HATE the types of games they usually do (on-the-shoulder perspective, too cinematic, overly realistic artstyle, etc) I rather have a franchise be dormant or even dead before beign turned into a corpse.

Sorry, a little off-topic.

You know that's not enough right? Don't get me wrong, SoR4 is great. But that's like saying "Capcom made Mega Man 11, they're doing great now!" One small release like that is not enough for a company that size.

My problem with recent Sega releases is that they skew heavily towards Japanese-centric franchises. I know this sounds dumb like "DUH OF COURSE THE WILL CARE ABOUT THOSE, THEY ARE JAPANESE", but nowadays they are igonring a lot of the franchises that debuted on the Genesis (A.K.A the system that made them famous internationally) that are more popular over here in the west, Streets of Rage 4 aside.

Only Yakuza has risen enough to the mainstream, but everything else is damn niche here in comparison (sorry Puyo fans) and appeals to mostly japanese outside of Alex Kidd and maybe Space Channel 5 (which is more of a cult game anyway).

Sakura Wars, Vocaloid games, and the like are great, but those aren't the games i know Sega for. Ristar, Vectorman, Shinobi and the like are what i know Sega for. Im not gonna lie im dead biased towards the Genesis here, so i know my game revival ideas are predictable.

Though seeing how Wonder Boy the Dragon's Trap and Streets of Rage 4 have turned out, maybe we can have a little reliable developer focusing on reviving old school Sega Franchises.

 

[Deleted member]

-Speculates about cropped porn for a week
-"Let's never do that EVER again!!!"
-Talks about porn immediately after

 

[Captain Shwampy]

I always prefered the more amercian Sega games than their japanese ones due to their charm with certain exceptions, but calling Streets of Rage "anime" is such a laughable statement. I can understand it with Yakuza, or Sakura Wars, those clearly are geared towards more japanese tropes, but SOR?

***** HAVE YOU HEARD THE MUSIC OF THE SERIES?

This is not calling Yuko a "Plagiarist" but Streets of Rage's influences from the character designs, to the stage aesthetic, to it's bloody music is all clearly inspired by American culture of the late 80's and early 90s. It's probably the most "American" Japanese Sega Property they have aside of Sonic.

Skate is literally based off an anime character lol.

Ironically enough Sega CS2 the developers behind Shinobi, Phantasy Star, and Sakura Wars were the developers of the first SoR game.