Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[RouffWestie]

i think they should add hisoka from hunterxhunter. hes a bit anime but thats okay imo

I bet the competitive community would love him.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I bet the competitive community would love him.

TOO SOON MAN

TOO

****ING

SOON

 

[Opossum]

I bet the competitive community would love him.

Nah, apparently they have five years of input delay between moves. :V

Damn Waluigi getting stripped of his basic human rights.

Spoiler

He don't need them, he's an eldritch abomination

-Waluigi is not a person

Why ya gotta do my boy like that?

I'm sorry but Waluigi doesn't count as a person because he is purple. It's just The Law.

 

[I.D.]

Other than Banjo & Kazooie every Smash DLC newcomer has been a single fighter. I'm hoping for some more diversity in Fighters Pass Vol. 2 with more duo fighters wink wink

 

[ZelDan]

Nah, apparently they have five years of input delay between moves. :V



I'm sorry but Waluigi doesn't count as a person because he is purple. It's just The Law.

See, that logic doesn't really fly though when this person here is clearly purple and is a perfect gentleman:

 

[Hinata]

Other than Banjo & Kazooie every Smash DLC newcomer has been a single fighter. I'm hoping for some more diversity in Fighters Pass Vol. 2 with more duo fighters wink wink

I see where you're goin' with this, and I agree.

 

[cashregister9]

I see where you're goin' with this, and I agree.

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Here is some more food for thought

EDIT

 

[Guynamednelson]

I'm sorry but Waluigi doesn't count as a person because he is purple. It's just The Law.

This is Third Street Saints erasure.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Other than Banjo & Kazooie every Smash DLC newcomer has been a single fighter. I'm hoping for some more diversity in Fighters Pass Vol. 2 with more duo fighters wink wink

We have enough duo, fighter pass 2 should add our first trio (that's how Chorus kids can still win).

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

We have enough duo, fighter pass 2 should add our first trio (that's how Chorus kids can still win).

If they have the conductor on the side like in the Grinch Leak, we could have a quartet

 

[Schnee117]

Here is some more food for thought

Have some pizza

And some cake

 

[Calamitas]

Here is some more food for thought

Come to think of it, I have the perfect idea for a new Sega rep.

Spoiler

 

[JCKirbs]

Rather, I'm saying that Smash already delivers pretty thoroughly on varied character design aesthetics. If you want characters like Crash in the game, I'm saying you should want them on their own merits, not because they're a cartoony mascot - in much the same way that I would think somebody asking for Lloyd isn't asking for him for the sake of having another anime swordfighter, but because they want him on his own merits.

In that case, I completely agree with your statement.
It's basically like how I dislike when people want characters just to spite other characters or their fans, or characters in hopes that the community becomes mad again.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Here is some more food for thought

Addin' more.

 

[Deleted member]

Other than Banjo & Kazooie every Smash DLC newcomer has been a single fighter. I'm hoping for some more diversity in Fighters Pass Vol. 2 with more duo fighters wink wink

Hmmm... Young Wizard and Mellori could work

A life wizard+whatever theoretical school of magic they pick for the Young Wizard?(considering you can't represent all 7 schools of magic without some weird jank) It would work pretty well.
I'm only slightly joking btw

She's also pretty plot relevant(why exactly I cannot say because knowing the why ruins the entire 3rd arc's buildup) and tags along with you for most of Empyrea part 2 so it's not like I'm throwing a random NPC in for the jokes.

 

[N3ON]

Other than Banjo & Kazooie every Smash DLC newcomer has been a single fighter. I'm hoping for some more diversity in Fighters Pass Vol. 2 with more duo fighters wink wink

Isaac is married to Jenna so he's not single.

Add him.

 

[GalacticPetey]

I don't think this is even a question of art styles, it's more proportions. Because to insinuate that Min-Min, Hero, Joker, and Terry have the same art style is laughable. As it would be to say Dixie, Crash, Rayman, and Rillaboom share an art style. Is there a distinction between characters with more realistic proportions and those without? Sure, but that's not really art style, or at the very least it's a very shallow idea of it.

I honestly think this stems from a lot of Nintendo fans not willing to play other games outside of Nintendo franchises, who usually sticks to cartoony, heavily stylized games. Don't get me wrong, a good percentage of my favorite games are Nintendo titles with heavily stylized art styles, but every time I see "there's too many anime characters" I roll my eyes. It's on the same level of Ridley is too big and too many swordsmen.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm sorry but Waluigi doesn't count as a person because he is purple. It's just The Law.

: Eh. He's right.

 

[Aetheri]

How many people with light blue skin do you know? This is talking about true form Midna, mind you. Not Elma.

Not enough unfortunately...

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

See, that logic doesn't really fly though when this person here is clearly purple and is a perfect gentleman:

Glory be to our Lord Lorenz

 

[chocolatejr9]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

 

[Dinoman96]

I don't think this is even a question of art styles, it's more proportions. Because to insinuate that Min-Min, Hero, Joker, and Terry have the same art style is laughable. As it would be to say Dixie, Crash, Rayman, and Rillaboom share an art style. Is there a distinction between characters with more realistic proportions and those without? Sure, but that's not really art style, or at the very least it's a very shallow idea of it.

I honestly think this stems from a lot of Nintendo fans not willing to play other games outside of Nintendo franchises, who usually sticks to cartoony, heavily stylized games. Don't get me wrong, a good percentage of my favorite games are Nintendo titles with heavily stylized art styles, but every time I see "there's too many anime characters" I roll my eyes. It's on the same level of Ridley is too big and too many swordsmen.

One thing to consider is that the tweet I posted there is from a K. Rool megafan account.

I do get the feeling a lot of the people who complain about this issue are probably older folk who grew up playing the likes of Mario and Rare games on SNES and N64 and probably don't like how more Japan centric Nintendo has gotten since then.

Smash 4 in particular contained a lot more "anime humanoids" than previous installments, with Robin, Lucina, Palutena, Dark Pit, Shulk, Cloud, Ryu, Corrin and Bayonetta getting in over the likes K. Rool and Ridley, which I think may of been the straw that broke the camel's back for certain people.

 

[Cosmic77]

I don't think I've ever supported a character just because they had a design or art style I liked.

I mean, obviously I prefer some styles over others, but when I'm thinking of Smash and characters I want? The character's franchise, their moveset potential, their fan demand, their importance to gaming, and half a dozen other things are more important to me.

 

[ZephyrZ]

What about my boy, Glover?


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That's a Hamburger Helper box mascot. We're talking about cereal box mascots.

 

[SharkLord]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

On one hand, Reimu, which is the best-case scenario.
On the other hand... If we're going off of their character Viridi. If we're going off of the discourse surrounding them, Urshifu instead. Yeah...

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

I don't have a least wanted character

And even if I did I don't think I would care considering that would mean Wizard101 content in smash.. and boy let me tell ya that game's a hidden gem for sure.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

scenario 1: Sora then Geno
Senario2: Layton then Velvet
Senario 3: Pheonix then anyone from senran kagura

 

[Calamitas]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

Oh, wow, two Xenoblade characters at once? That'd be a wild double-reveal. Would probably cement the series as one that gets complained about along with Fire Emblem, too.
But yeah, I'd take that deal. One of the main reasons why I don't want a certain other Xenoblade characters is because I want to see Elma and X getting represented first, so I could live with both getting in at the same time.

 

[KillerCage]

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Is SatBK Sonic a cereal mascot, or an anime swordsman? It can be argued he checks off boxes for each

Discuss

He is the Knight of the Wind of course!

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

I'll be honest, I don't even know who my least wanted is. So I'll take that well.

Edit: Didn't want to double post so I'm just adding this.

Results from our Discord + Affiliate Post-Min Min SSBU Vol. 2 DLC Ballot! Huge S/O to @DuckMeat13 for polling together all the data! Huge S/O to Slender for the graphics!

Link to Raw Data -https://t.co/eCCCJPE4zL

Credited Artists in next tweet -> pic.twitter.com/7KjbGVkVkF

— FM Discord (@fm_discord) August 20, 2020

PapaGeno's discord did a vote on who is the most likely and who is the most wanted. Geno came 2nd on most likely and 1st on most wanted so there's potential slight bias, but last time I was around that Discord quite a few people hated the idea of Geno getting in.

 

[N3ON]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

Why not, it's DLC. I'll download my most wanted character and not download my least wanted character.

 

[cosmicB]

Mortal Kombat could be sold in Japan though. There's no Specfic ban for the Franchise or anything

the Problem is that Nettherrealm themselves Don't want to Censor the game and/or Translate the game. If they censor Mortal Kombat the games could be sold in Japan, but because they don't they can't. There's no need for a Reigon Locked Mii Costume

If Mortal Kombat gets into Smash, it would be in a Censored form. There still could be Fatalities and such, it's just that there wouldn't be any Explict form of Gore like Dismemberment or anything. The content in Mortal Kombat is Illegal, Mortal Kombat the Franchise and it's characters are not

I'm pretty sure owning MK11 is a legal gray area in Japan. Not something anyone would get arrested for and I'm sure you could find the imported version in a shop in Akihabara somewhere, but not something that's exactly legally acknowledged as a thing you should be doing. At least that's my understanding of how CERO-rejected games work, which is admittedly shaky because it doesn't work like the ESRB at all.

Someone can feel free to correct me here, but even so there's still no other series represented in Smash ult with a banned game in it in ANY major region.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I'll be honest, I don't even know who my least wanted is. So I'll take that well.

Edit: Didn't want to double post so I'm just adding this.

Results from our Discord + Affiliate Post-Min Min SSBU Vol. 2 DLC Ballot! Huge S/O to @DuckMeat13 for polling together all the data! Huge S/O to Slender for the graphics!

Link to Raw Data -https://t.co/eCCCJPE4zL

Credited Artists in next tweet -> pic.twitter.com/7KjbGVkVkF

— FM Discord (@fm_discord) August 20, 2020

PapaGeno's discord did a vote on who is the most likely and who is the most wanted. Geno came 2nd on most likely and 1st on most wanted so there's potential slight bias, but last time I was around that Discord quite a few people hated the idea of Geno getting in.

ignoring Geno becase obviusly there is gonna be a good amount of votes for him, its being on his sever and all.

what Im shocked about is Sora even getting votes and is even 4th most wanted

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

I'll have to turn down any deal that gets Kirito from SAO into Smash.

 

[cosmicB]

Alright, I don't know how to download the image used (I saw it on the Geno thread), but I wanted to bring up the "Smash Bros. Monkey Paw" game! Here's how it works: your most wanted character gets added. HOWEVER, so does your least wanted character. Do you accept the deal? If so, who's getting added?

This isn't even a monkey paw game to me. I've got a lot of least wanteds, but the absolute worst reaction I'd be able to muster from any of them would be "well that's boring". Then I'd shrug my shoulders, play them to see if they're competitively viable and/or fit my playstyle which will determine if they become a secondary or not, and then I'll move on. It's not really even a price to pay for me since it's 1 out of 5 more characters, and I get to see a bunch of salty "WHO!?" reactions when Monokuma gets revealed.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Other than Banjo & Kazooie and Piranha Plant, who was explicitly planned for the base game, every Smash DLC newcomer has been an anime-esque human. I'm hoping for some more diversity in Fighters Pass Vol. 2, with cartoony characters like Dixie Kong, Rayman, and Crash Bandicoot. pic.twitter.com/4XqpigP2Cy

— Kremling Kampaigner (@KRoolKountry) August 19, 2020

The old age debate returns

I strongly agree, Banjo-Kazooie was a big get, But man does the duo stick out compared to the rest of the DLC lineup and makes it look lopsided, Really hoping for Crash Bandicoot to come in and help fix that.

A big reason why I love the Super Smash Bros franchise so much compared to your "Traditional Fighting Game" is the cartoony and mascot premise of the game which was really felt with the N64 original and in more recent years kind of went away from that direction, Traditional fighters tend to have a more serious vibe and are usually more human based when it comes to the roster usually realistic and anime-esque characters, Other than a few exceptions you never see a cereal mascot join a traditional fighter as it clashes with the style of the fighting game, Smash feels like a game where cereal mascots can truly fight in a game that is almost exclusive and feels made for that type of archetype, I mean it is after all a platform fighter.

In my opinion that's what really makes Super Smash Bros stand out from the crowd of fighting games (Other than being the ultimate crossover), That's not to say that I hate the idea of more realistic or human characters, I like Snake and think he is a really cool character and that's coming from someone who has never played a Metal Gear Solid and Master Chief is currently one of my most wanted characters to join Smash.

But when I think of Super Smash Bros, First and foremost I think of Mario, Donkey Kong, Sonic, Pac Man, Banjo-Kazooie and (Hopefully) Crash Bandicoot beating the crap out of each other with wacky slapstick animations and charm and part of me feels like that is lost when I see a Free 4 All match with the polar opposite of those type of characters.

 

[Schnee117]

If I had a pound for every time someone used the Order of the Sword logo for DMC instead of one of the various title silhouettes I'd be able to buy a second pair of joycons.

 

[Icedragonadam]

I've heard murmurs about Dante on Resetera, but from what I hear, I assume it's worthless?

 

[Idon]

I'll be honest, I don't even know who my least wanted is. So I'll take that well.

Edit: Didn't want to double post so I'm just adding this.

Results from our Discord + Affiliate Post-Min Min SSBU Vol. 2 DLC Ballot! Huge S/O to @DuckMeat13 for polling together all the data! Huge S/O to Slender for the graphics!

Link to Raw Data -https://t.co/eCCCJPE4zL

Credited Artists in next tweet -> pic.twitter.com/7KjbGVkVkF

— FM Discord (@fm_discord) August 20, 2020

PapaGeno's discord did a vote on who is the most likely and who is the most wanted. Geno came 2nd on most likely and 1st on most wanted so there's potential slight bias, but last time I was around that Discord quite a few people hated the idea of Geno getting in.

Okay small nitpick here.
Why the **** do people keep using the Order of the Sword logo for Dante?
****'s used for one game for the opposing faction and yall are associating it with the main man.

You wanna go with the first game? Boom


You wanna go with the most iconic game? Boom


You wanna go with the most modern and currently popular game? Boom

EDIT: dammit Schnee117 said it before I did.

 

[Dinoman96]

I've heard murmurs about Dante on Resetera, but from what I hear, I assume it's worthless?

It was literally just NateDrake attempting to bait the crappy Twitter "insiders" that lurk the Nintendo Direct threads on ERA and pass it off as their own info, yeah.