Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[TheGuv]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

 

[GoodGrief741]

It is very unlikely that Waluigi is part of the fighter pass. His inclusion would piss of as many people like it would please people. However, more important is the case that Waluigi has not an own game for a stage and music.
In internet it gives rumors again, that after fighter pass there will be an extra fighter and it could be Waluigi. Similar the piranha plant. In this case, people who wants Waluigi could buy this dlc. But I would leave each online party, if there is a Waluigi.


More important. Digimon.
You have to expect in the case Digimon will be added, Agumon is the rep. We do not know what is Sakurai opinion to Digimon. Is he playing any Digimon game by himself? We don't know. I don't guess that he wants another Digimon in own preferences.
Agumon could bring back perma transformations. Agumon fast and handy like middle weight fighters, ShineGreymon more like heavy fighters with more agility than Ridley.

I really don't understand why you think Waluigi's inclusion would piss people off. He's not really a controversial character.

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

Nah, I prefer Nintendo All-Stars.

 

[krokotopia101]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

I honestly (feel like the only one to) like the idea. It could introduce to people many different characters and ideas to the table for different reps. It's feels welcoming. Rather than secluding everything to Nintendo-only properties. There's a wide variety of games from Sega, Sony, etc. that were probably GEMS that no one remembered existed. I'm sure there were MANY games that basically felt nonexistent, now, before Smash welcomed them.

There aren't that many games...specifically FIGHTING games that would do crossovers as ambitious as Smash so well. Crossover games in general. The only one that's REALLY left is Kingdom Hearts (And well...though a good crossover, I just feel the story's at a mess at this point). There's also another good crossover game combining Mario and Rabbids. A crossover NO ONE thought would work well until the game was executed. It was a MASTERPIECE...though, I'm not sure what'll happen to that one.

I really don't understand why you think Waluigi's inclusion would piss people off. He's not really a controversial character.

I think it's because Waluwigi's supposed to be a joke character to people. People wanted the joke character in, and some people didn't. People would be pissed off that Sakurai 'craved to the babies' wishes' and all that.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Waluigi is actually decently controversial. There's a vocal hatebase out there for him too.

But it's not like any character would ever have 100% approval rating. Every single character will have someone who simply doesn't like them. Everybody's different. And there's enough vocal hate out there that a small amount of backlash is inevitable. It definitely wouldn't outweigh the positive, at least. So that's nice~

 

[Megadoomer]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

I'm fine with it. Nintendo wouldn't have lasted as long as it has if not for third party companies providing support, and it gives people the motivation to look into series that they might not have tried otherwise. (I was motivated to play Metal Gear, the Metroid-style Castlevanias, and Persona 5 because of their inclusion in Smash Bros.)

 

[TCT~Phantom]

I feel like a decent part of my... apprehension towards Waluigi is that at least 1/3 of his support feels like it is just for the memes. The fact a literal joke character getting in due to fan demand does rub me the wrong way. I myself do not like internet funny guy ha ha types. While Waluigi is becoming less divisive (compare his Smash 4 RTC performance to now, he actually does very well in want), saying he ain't controversial at all is kinda inaccurate.

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

Don't forget Resident Evil and Crash FP 4 and 5

That being said, I like the fact we have more third parties. Nintendo has enough characters left they can make a pretty decent Smash 6 roster but seeing franchises get into Smash is an honor. Seeing gaming juggernaut franchises battle with cult classics and the like is great.

 

[BZocky]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

I like the franchises the most that have closer ties to Nintendo the most but all of them are great. Like Pac-Man, Megaman, Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, Castlevania, Dragon Quest and Street Fighter have iconic home titles reaching back to the NES/Gameboy with Nintendo and Banjo-Kazooie was literally a Nintendo franchise for awhile and may as well still be.
Sonic is cool since he was a direct competitor, the same with Joker being really stylish and a sort of modern Playstation rep (even though he's had spinoffs on Nintendo). Maybe one day we can get Crash or Sir Daniel as the classic PS1 rep.

 

[Playstation Guy 1000]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

i like the direction that Nintendo is going with in smash

 

[Wunderwaft]

The reason why Waluigi is becoming more acceptable within the core Smash fandom is because we reached a point where he's arguably one of the biggest Nintendo characters that isn't playable yet. Yes the character has memes surrounding him, but Waluigi is no more of a meme than Ridley was before he became playable. Waluigi always had a hatebase ever since Brawl, only now the hatebase is swallowed by a big support base that has been growing recently.

 

[ROBnWatch]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

Not really. I’d prefer series I’m more familiar with. I’ll agree most of the 3rd parties we have do deserve to be in Smash, and I am familiar with some of the series they’re from. That being said, very few of them have gotten me to try new series, and honestly, most if not all 3rd parties that could be added at this point would be very underwhelming for me. Additionally, some of the current 3rd parties, and most of the 3rd parties that could yet be added, I don’t know much about beyond what’s referenced in Smash. (Ya, ya, say what you will about me not getting into too many game series, whatever.)

Unpopular opinion on this thread it seems, but it’s just how I feel. And I’m sure there are others who feel the same. Would prefer the last 2 characters to be 1st party, however unlikely it may seem at the current point in time.

 

[Opossum]

On the Dynasty Warriors topic, if being based on things in the public domain was an issue, we wouldn't have Kid Icarus represented at all, Joker wouldn't be using Arsene, and Henry Fleming wouldn't be a spirit.

As far as I'm concerned, Dynasty Warriors is absolutely fair game.

 

[TheYungLink]

What do you all think about a possible Harvest Moon character? It's one of the few big-name casual Japanese third-party series that a lot of people generally seem to know about.

The protagonist's moveset can be somewhat similar to Villager in that they're just an ordinary person, in this case a farmer, doing things that reference farm life and taking care of animals. Their smash attacks could use farming tools like pitchforks, and their special attacks could revolve around growing different crops that give you different perks / projectiles, like an expanded version of Villager's tree-growing down special.

 

[Wyoming]

What do you all think about a possible Harvest Moon character? It's one of the few big-name casual Japanese third-party series that a lot of people generally seem to know about.

The protagonist's moveset can be somewhat similar to Villager in that they're just an ordinary person, in this case a farmer, doing things that reference farm life and taking care of animals. Their smash attacks could use farming tools like pitchforks, and their special attacks could revolve around growing different crops that give you different perks / projectiles, like an expanded version of Villager's tree-growing down special.

I wanted the farmer/Pete/Jack in Brawl, but Villager and Isabelle esentially both cover the bases on what he'd do. The only tools not used by them are the sickle and hammer if I recall.

Barnyard animals could work yes, but using them as attacks seems rather desperate. They'd be much better represented as stage hazards on the farm.

 

[Idon]

What do you all think about a possible Harvest Moon character? It's one of the few big-name casual Japanese third-party series that a lot of people generally seem to know about.

The protagonist's moveset can be somewhat similar to Villager in that they're just an ordinary person, in this case a farmer, doing things that reference farm life and taking care of animals. Their smash attacks could use farming tools like pitchforks, and their special attacks could revolve around growing different crops that give you different perks / projectiles, like an expanded version of Villager's tree-growing down special.

I'm not a huge fan of those types of games honestly, but I'm sure there's a large amount of fans that would love a moveset based around farming and such.

 

[TheYungLink]

I wanted the farmer/Pete/Jack in Brawl, but Villager and Isabelle esentially both cover the bases on what he'd do. The only tools not used by them are the sickle and hammer if I recall.

Barnyard animals could work yes, but using them as attacks seems rather desperate. They'd be much better represented as stage hazards on the farm.

You make some good points. Nonetheless, after making my post, I checked the directory and I was still very surprised that there is no support thread for a Harvest Moon character.

Even if they'd have some overlap with the Animal Crossing characters, possible overlap in abilities hasn't stopped other characters from getting support, so it's odd is all.

I'm not a huge fan of those types of games honestly, but I'm sure there's a large amount of fans that would love a moveset based around farming and such.

I don't play Harvest Moon, but the thought came to me when I remembered one of my friends loves the series to death. She squee'd in joy when Isabelle and a new Animal Crossing was revealed last year, so it reminded me that there are still some big character wants that aren't that espoused in the hardcore Smash community.

 

[Wyoming]

You make some good points. Nonetheless, after making my post, I checked the directory and I was still very surprised that there is no support thread for a Harvest Moon character.

Even if they'd have some overlap with the Animal Crossing characters, possible overlap in abilities hasn't stopped other characters from getting support, so it's odd is all.



I don't play Harvest Moon, but the thought came to me when I remembered one of my friends loves the series to death. She squee'd in joy when Isabelle and a new Animal Crossing was revealed last year, so it reminded me that there are still some big character wants that aren't that espoused in the hardcore Smash community.

I believe there was one, but it died off rather quickly.

In a sense it makes sense. It's a series that fell off a cliff in the last decade and has a niche fanbase. The peak of the series' popularity was in the 2000s.

 

[Playstation Guy 1000]

What do you all think about a possible Harvest Moon character? It's one of the few big-name casual Japanese third-party series that a lot of people generally seem to know about.

The protagonist's moveset can be somewhat similar to Villager in that they're just an ordinary person, in this case a farmer, doing things that reference farm life and taking care of animals. Their smash attacks could use farming tools like pitchforks, and their special attacks could revolve around growing different crops that give you different perks / projectiles, like an expanded version of Villager's tree-growing down special.

I actually forgot about that franchise until mention it just a while ago.

 

[TheYungLink]

I actually forgot about that franchise until mention it just a while ago.

I blame the success of Stardew Valley, which was successful precisely because of what Wyoming said, the Harvest Moon series falling in popularity after the 2000s for various reasons, one of them being, according to my friend, the HM games generally getting worse / not improving.

Still, it's a series to keep in mind, I think.

 

[StormC]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

Mixed. During Brawl speculation I was annoyed at third parties because it felt like we were still waiting for a lot of classic Nintendo characters to be added, then comes this dude in a bandana. I thought if we got third parties they should at least have a storied Nintendo history, like Mega Man and Bomberman.

A lot's changed since then. I got into the MGS series thanks to Brawl, Ultimate turned me to the Belmont era of Castlevania games, and obviously from my avatar I played Persona 5 and absolutely loved it thanks to Joker's inclusion in Smash. And a lot of those classic Nintendo characters (Diddy Kong, King Dedede, Ridley, King K. Rool) got in. The third party door also brought home Banjo-Kazooie and I'm forever grateful for that. There's a lot of third party series I love, and almost all of them are represented in Smash Ultimate, which is insane to me. My top 10 favorite games all have playable characters.

But I am first and foremost a Nintendo fan when it comes to video games and I probably always will be. I don't mind the focus on third parties during DLC because I understand why they do it, and I feel like Sakurai hit the major obligations for first party characters in the base game (Inkling, Ridley, King K. Rool), so I'm not as fussed about it as I used to be. As long as the base roster for each Smash title continues to focus on first party characters with 1-2 new third party franchises, I'm fine with it. Characters like Isaac would be great but I understand why they aren't in the game with such a limited newcomer pool, something has to lose out. And really, if we're at the point where Isaac is one of the most requested first party fighters left, that really tells us how well Sakurai has done to include the vast majority of popular and iconic Nintendo characters up until now.

My favorite Smash character additions also tend to be ones besides the main character; other playable heroes, supporting characters, villains, and so on. Those additions really make it feel like a crossover between franchises, instead of just the one they slap on the boxart. As a lifelong DKC fan, I'm absolutely thrilled that I get to see the once-abandoned villain of the series interact with all these crazy characters; it feels like it's a genuine crossover with DKC instead of just the obligatory hero and sidekick. So if we continue to see more guest characters, it would be nice if they started to double dip. There are also some obscure characters I would love to see like Muddy Mole and Lip, but I'm not that invested in them, if we never get characters like that again it'd be an "oh well" thing from me as long as we continue to get good character choices overall like in the base Ultimate roster.

My perspective is different though. I got the two evil reptiles I've wanted for the last decade and a long-lost duo I never thought in my wildest dreams I would see on a Nintendo console again, let alone in Smash. I won. I'm not a diehard Isaac/Skull Kid/Waluigi/etc. supporter so I don't see other characters as "stealing their spot." So maybe it's just that I got what I want and I can afford to be detached. It's probably disappointing knowing you're waiting a long time to even have a chance to hope for those characters to get in again... but again, I got what I asked for. Even Piranha Plant's inclusion was a good wake up call to not take this stuff so seriously. Smash speculation can get very emotional, for better or worse. If your most wanted still isn't in... hopefully next time, but also, it's good to know at some point when it's become too taxing to stay invested. I'm forever thankful that the K. Rool costume had a happy ending.

The two characters left I would want to see the most are Dixie Kong and Bandana Dee. Above all else, even whatever crazy third party characters we might get on the Pass, those two would make me the happiest. I'm not sure what the future holds for them, but I'm not getting any younger and I already spend too much time posting about Smash online as is, and my desire for those two isn't so strong that I would probably stay active in the Smash community for the next game. If Smash 6 is announced in 7 years, and they suddenly decide to make the base game newcomers mostly third parties, I'd probably be a lot less upset than I would have been even a year ago. The Smash roster will never be "complete" but Ultimate is about as close as you could ever hope it could get.

 

[Vycoul]

If YOUR most wanted got in as a part of the fighter's pass (ignore deconfirmations of any sort for now) what would be the stage?

Spiral Mountain.
Some people say Click Clock Wood or Treasure Trove Cove, but I'm a firm believer that Banjo & Kazooie's stage would be Spiral Mountain. It'll never happen though...

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Love it.
Personally, there are only a couple of first-party characters left that I care about. No offense to their fans, but I feel as though we've begun to... kinda scrape the bottom of the barrel with a lot of the first-party suggestions.

I'd much rather include a character from a popular series with a long legacy like Resident Evil, Tekken, Kingdom Hearts, Doom, Ninja Gaiden, or Tales than someone like... well, I'll just name him: Bandanna Dee.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Beedle could also work, being among the more recognizable non-Triforce Trio Zelda characters. Perhaps he could use his wares and otherwise unused LOZ items (Beetle, Ball+Chain, Mirror Sheild, etc) to fight. (Or they could de-clone Yink and Twink but we all know that's never gonna happen). Otherwise there is also Tingle, popular enough in Japan to earn two spinoffs for himself (his popularity here, though...).

Also, a different idea.

If YOUR most wanted got in as a part of the fighter's pass (ignore deconfirmations of any sort for now) what would be the stage?

Sylvalum (with possibly random weather effects native to the continent) or Noctilum with a Telethia the Endbringer stage boss

 

[Deathcarter]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

I used to but after Joker broke the pattern of 3rd parties being either heavily Nintendo affiliated or Mario/Pikachu or Link level Megastars, we're getting close to the law of diminishing returns even for the 3rd parties. Characters like Heihachi, Monster Hunter, and the Resident Evil protags just don't have the tremendous level of star power that Sonic/Pac-Man/Ryu/Cloud possess; none of them beyond Crash, Steve, and Lara Croft really do and I don't even like the latter two. Third Parties just aren't not that exciting to me anymore beyond whatever characters I have a specific affinity for.

 

[Garteam]

I'd argue that Smash Bros is still fundamentally about Nintendo All-Stars. All third parties are major gaming icons whose series have had successful runs on Nintendo systems (, , , , ) or hail from series that are often tied to Nintendo in the public perception (, , , , ).

The only real exception, IMO, is . But he kinda fits into the first category, given Shin Megami Tensei's long history.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

(Or they could de-clone Yink and Twink but we all know that's never gonna happen)

In my opinion Link's moveset should have leaned more heavily toward The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's design philosophies as a sandbox game, and Toon Link should have gotten a moveset overhaul from his appearance in The Legend of Zelda: Triforce Heroes. In short, Link and Toon Link should be based off of their latest game while Young Link should remain the more constant character ('cause he hasn't appeared since Majora's Mask).

If YOUR most wanted got in as a part of the fighter's pass (ignore deconfirmations of any sort for now) what would be the stage?

The first area (I think it's called Shinshu Field or something close to it) in Okami. The stage would take place in a cursed area that becomes cleansed after a minute of gameplay.

Sylvalum (with possibly random weather effects native to the continent)

Ew, that means we'd have to deal with spores. (Fun fact: this was the weather condition I got when I first stepped into Sylvalum.)

My idea for a Xenoblade Chronicles X stage would be based off of the character creation screen. The stage would morph into different areas on Mira. The idea is to be able to show off cool landmarks in a way that's feasible. As for locations, I would pick the top of B.L.A.D.E Tower (overlooking NLA), Bhiano Lake from Primordia, the great tree in Noctilum, The Great Ring or the oasis from Oblivia, and I'm not sure where to pick from Sylvalum or Caldros.

P.S. I'm not saying my idea is better, just that I have one. To be honest a stage where your view was obscured sometimes would be kind of interesting in casual play since scenarios like that don't happen too often. (Nightmare is a pretty rare assist trophy if I'm not mistaken)
EDIT: Especially if there were walk offs, then you wouldn't have to worry about falling off and dying. Just stepping on a Mortifole and dying.

 

[Deleted member]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

If I'm being honest, I feel the whole Nintendo/videogame hall of the fame concept is overplayed. I feel we had a few characters already that I wouldn't personally put in either, but that's not an issue as I think the only requirement for a character in Smash is that is fun to play.

Hope last two picks are fun, as I said before I got Hero which was my most wanted so I am really looking forward for the last two being fun to play.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

In my opinion Link's moveset should have leaned more heavily toward The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's design philosophies as a sandbox game, and Toon Link should have gotten a moveset overhaul from his appearance in The Legend of Zelda: Triforce Heroes. In short, Link and Toon Link should be based off of their latest game while Young Link should remain the more constant character ('cause he hasn't appeared since Majora's Mask).

The first area (I think it's called Shinshu Field or something close to it) in Okami. The stage would take place in a cursed area that becomes cleansed after a minute of gameplay.


Ew, that means we'd have to deal with spores. (Fun fact: this was the weather condition I got when I first stepped into Sylvalum.)

My idea for a Xenoblade Chronicles X stage would be based off of the character creation screen. The stage would morph into different areas on Mira. The idea is to be able to show off cool landmarks in a way that's feasible. As for locations, I would pick the top of B.L.A.D.E Tower (overlooking NLA), Bhiano Lake from Primordia, the great tree in Noctilum, The Great Ring or the oasis from Oblivia, and I'm not sure where to pick from Sylvalum or Caldros.

P.S. I'm not saying my idea is better, just that I have one. To be honest a stage where your view was obscured sometimes would be kind of interesting in casual play since scenarios like that don't happen too often. (Nightmare is a pretty rare assist trophy if I'm not mistaken)
EDIT: Especially if there were walk offs, then you wouldn't have to worry about falling off and dying. Just stepping on a Mortifole and dying.

Clearly you haven’t seen Rising Energy Mist or Crimson Aurora cause those are BEAUTIES

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Clearly you haven’t seen Rising Energy Mist or Crimson Aurora cause those are BEAUTIES

I don't remember Crimson Aurora, but I 100% agree with you on the Rising Energy Mist. If we do get a traveling stage for Xenoblade Chronicles X then Sylvalum should perpetually be in one of these states.

Come to think of it Sylvalum really is the most unique location in the game...

 

[Deleted member]

So, do you like the direction Smash is taking with "Videogame All-Stars" instead of just "Nintendo All-Stars"? We're probably just in the beginning of the transition but we have 10 3rd party franchises currently (11 if you count Bayonetta).

Metal Gear
Sonic
Pac-Man
Megaman
Street Fighter
Final Fantasy
Castlevania
Persona
Dragon Quest
Banjo-Kazooie

I rather not, honestly. Smash will always be Nintendo All Stars for me and i admitedly don't like how Smash seems to slowly been abandoning this indentity, it will come to a point in which they choose litreally every fictional character ever if the series keeps going this way.

But i know Guests charaters have become such an intergral part of Smash for many that removing all of them WILL result in backlash. Simon was my most wanted character in Smash since 4 but i think that Nintendo should always be main priority roster-wise.

If im honest, i think Guests Fighters in Smash should have been introdued in Smash 4 as DLC, while the base roster was Solely-Nintendo Focused. This has been in the back of my mind since i first saw how The Fighter Pass seemed to be Third Party only.

 

[PeridotGX]

If YOUR most wanted got in as a part of the fighter's pass (ignore deconfirmations of any sort for now) what would be the stage?

Probably Megaton Punch, as it's the only Bandana-Dee related thing that Sakurai created. Maybe something from Modern Kirby, but I doubt it.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Probably Megaton Punch, as it's the only Bandana-Dee related thing that Sakurai created. Maybe something from Modern Kirby, but I doubt it.

What location would you pick from a modern Kirby stage?

The most likely one I see would be Another Dimension, which isn't too thrilling since Another Dimension looks pretty horrid in my opinion.

 

[Door Key Pig]

Curious query; hypothetically assuming there is going to be another Fighter's Pass or similar amount of DLC, what are the characters that could only, or have a far better chance of making it through that?

Could there be another rep from a company that already had one this pass (Geno, Tails, Steve), or would that be overkill? Would AT/spirit "upgrades" truly be possible?

 

[PeridotGX]

What location would you pick from a modern Kirby stage?

The most likely one I see would be Another Dimension, which isn't too thrilling since Another Dimension looks pretty horrid in my opinion.

The Dream Palace from Star Allies would be my preferred pick,. It would show an important area and mechanic from the game, and would also have references to other Kirby Characters. Royal Road from TD could also be neat.

but yeah, AD is probably the most likely, because it was in two games and was referenced in one more.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Also, a different idea.

If YOUR most wanted got in as a part of the fighter's pass (ignore deconfirmations of any sort for now) what would be the stage?

Esaka Train station, 98's version specifically. There's a ton of other stages Team Japan related stages in KOF, but KOF 98 is generally one of the most popular KOF games, so having that version of the stage in the game makes a ton of sense.

 

[Sari]

Curious query; hypothetically assuming there is going to be another Fighter's Pass or similar amount of DLC, what are the characters that could only, or have a far better chance of making it through that?

Could there be another rep from a company that already had one this pass (Geno, Tails, Steve), or would that be overkill? Would AT/spirit "upgrades" truly be possible?

Rex from Xenoblade 2 would get a major chance boost with a S2 pass, considering that he's pretty popular and Sakurai essentially said "sorry he couldn't be playable" during his mii costume showcase in the November Direct. I feel like he's the next Chrom in that Sakurai wanted to add him but didn't do so until later.

I believe more than ever that spirits are a death sentence for a character's chances for this wave, so I think any spirit has a chance for a S2 as long as they have lots of support to back them up.

AT upgrades could be possible, because if we get a S2 I think Waluigi would be one of the only characters to top Banjo and he'd be a great way to kick off a new season.

Also, a different idea.

If YOUR most wanted got in as a part of the fighter's pass (ignore deconfirmations of any sort for now) what would be the stage?

Esaka 96 all the way.

 

[Playstation Guy 1000]

My 4th question
if we get a Rockstar Games rep, who's the most likely charatcer to be in the game(in terms of fitting the tone of smash).

 

[cmbsfm]

My 4th question
if we get a Rockstar Games rep, who's the most likely charatcer to be in the game(in terms of fitting the tone of smash).

Not likely at all but I’d love CJ from GTA:SA. Bonus points if Big Smoke is with him on the banner.

 

[Sari]

My 4th question
if we get a Rockstar Games rep, who's the most likely charatcer to be in the game(in terms of fitting the tone of smash).

Most likely would probably be either Cole Phelps (since we have LA Noire on Switch) or John Marston/Arthur Morgan. Also wow, I just realized Smash doesn't have a cowboy character yet.

I don't see Nintendo stepping towards GTA for obvious reasons, though if they did Trevor would probably be the most likely considering how big GTA V is. Personally I'd go for CJ or Niko (imagine fighting while Soviet Connection plays in the background).

Gotta say, Rockstar has a ton of amazing games that it genuinely surprises me there is little to no support for one of its characters to appear in Smash.

 

[OrpheusTelos]

Also, a different idea.

If YOUR most wanted got in as a part of the fighter's pass (ignore deconfirmations of any sort for now) what would be the stage?

For Frisk, I can't think of anything other than the ruins. I'm not good at coming up with stage gimmicks, but I can see something similar to Mementos where various monsters make background appearances. Now that I mention Mementos, it'd be pretty cool if it had a similar music-based gimmick where a certain character would show up in the background to cheer you on or act as a stage hazard depending on what song's playing (Papyrus shows up when Bonetrousle is playing, Undyne shows up for Spear of Justice/Battle Against a True Hero, etc)

 

[Deleted member]

Not likely at all but I’d love CJ from GTA:SA. Bonus points if Big Smoke is with him on the banner.

Final Smash: FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ!

Most likely would probably be either Cole Phelps (since we have LA Noire on Switch) or John Marston/Arthur Morgan. Also wow, I just realized Smash doesn't have a cowboy character yet.

I don't see Nintendo stepping towards GTA for obvious reasons, though if they did Trevor would probably be the most likely considering how big GTA V is. Personally I'd go for CJ or Niko (imagine fighting while Soviet Connection plays in the background).

Gotta say, Rockstar has a ton of amazing games that it genuinely surprises me there is little to no support for one of its characters to appear in Smash.

The reason as to why there's no support is that Adult or Mature games are taboo in Smash and it's only recently that this barrier is beign slowly erased (even then, Rockstar is a western Studio, we just got Banjo who recently showed us that Western Third Parties are viable)

Doomguy is an outlier to this, and the only reason people bring him nowadays is because of those faker rumors about him that made people talk about. He's now just sticking around like the Chorus Kids after the Gematsu Leak.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Not likely at all but I’d love CJ from GTA:SA. Bonus points if Big Smoke is with him on the banner.

His entry quote is “Ah heck, here we go again”, cause no swearing in this Christian game

Final Smash: FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN CJ!


The reason as to why there's no support is that Adult or Mature games are taboo in Smash and it's only recently that this barrier is beign slowly erased (even then, Rockstar is a western Studio, we just got Banjo who recently showed us that Western Third Parties are viable)

Doomguy is an outlier to this, and the only reason people bring him nowadays is because of those faker rumors about him that made people talk about. He's now just sticking around like the Chorus Kids after the Gematsu Leak.

Just quoting to say I agree with your statements on Doom Slayer. I doubt Bethesda’s statements about exciting news for Doom fans was alluding to Smash...