DarthEnderX
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Dishonored 2 is, like, my favorite video game, and I'd LOVE to see Corvo in Smash.
But it's got zero chance.
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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion
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But it's got zero chance.
I completely agree with you on this topic. I think people are under the impression that each character implemented in smash is always 100% accurate to its original source material.
Sakurai does a good job, but at the end of the day certain abilities are added or taken away so that it makes sense in the context of smash.
-Im not too familiar with earthbound, but I hear Ness was given PK techniques that he doesn't normally have.
-Hero for sure has certain magic spells that not every hero is capable of wielding.
-As you mentioned, the one thing that made Joker unique in his own game is absent.
-Ganondorf
Overall it gets more difficult to keep characters 100% accurate if they are meant to be alternate costumes.
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Captain Shwampy
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SHUMP characters
MrElectroG64
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unironically? shooters. FPS games to be specific. There's a lot of untapped potential there.
Dark Bagel
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Hey guys! I made some prospective Ribbon Girl Smash alts based-off of Lola Pop, Twintelle, Min Min, and Doctor Coyle. What do you think?
Flyboy
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I love the Lola Pop one because she reminds me of Athena Cykes from Ace Attorney which is something I can definitely get behind.
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Eh? I always seen tons of talk about FPS characters like Doomguy and Master Chief, especially the former
SMAASH! Puppy
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I love the Lola Pop and Min Min ones. The Twintelle one's alright, but I prefer the other black costume.
It's kind of unfortunate that these aren't realistic pallet swaps for her. If she does get in, it'll likely be as an alt, which means that she'll probably just have one to four of her existing pallet swaps from ARMS.
Also, I don't think the ARMS themselves will be recolored at all since certain ARMS are pallet swaps of others (most notably the Toaster and Sparky).
MrElectroG64
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yeah, I feel like there's a real case for a fighter to be from an FPS that capitalizes on the way megaman plays, by which I mean having projectiles used for a lot of attacks like their jab and smash attacks. Maybe even go the simon and richter route of having moves like their aerials angles be controlled, though with projectiles instead of a whip, of course.
See, I've personally been of two minds about Smash Ganondorf. There's a valid argument to be made around a more unique Ganon(dorf) moveset, but at the same time, I've kinda grown to love Smash Ganondorf (unless I'm playing online ofc) - especially guys like Bizarro Flame who built his entire career out of disrespect montages. He's probably the one who helped perpetuate the "Hard Read / Disrespect" Ganon the most outside of the dev team.
Then again, FPS character discussions are dominated by those two. Not surprising really - Doom and Halo hit a sweet spot where they are both very notable, active and are seen as having some connection - official or otherwise - to Nintendo (Doom via ports, Master Chief's often compared and contrasted with Samus in fanworks). People don't associate most other FPSes (CoD, Battlefield, BioShock) with Nintendo at all and smaller FPS games like TimeSplitters are often dormant at best (Evil Trapezium, I really wish TimeSplitters wasn't dormant. Alas.).
That said, I'd consider Gordon Freeman and Heavy / other TF2 characters to be (relatively) in this category but still have solid shots (heh). Gordon in particular is another contender for "the first FPS character".
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SMAASH! Puppy
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INB4 Chell gets added and everyone's like "she's not an FPS character because you don't shoot people directly".
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KneeOfJustice99
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She just throws Turrets at you which do the shooting for her
Cutie Gwen
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Smh Fly you want Geiru in Smash not Athena
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Gordon is the one I want the most out of all Valve characters but I would also like seeing other Valve characters playable. Chell in particular is someone I think would fit well in Smash with the portal gun.
With Gordon you have the gravity gun and the potential for a grappler/zoner mix of a character, the first of his kind in Smash. With Chell you have the portal gun and the massive wackiness you could do with portals. With Heavy you have the minigun as a massive "**** off" tool the same way it works in TF2.
When all is said and done I would also be fine with a Counter Strike character with a mix of Counter-Terrorists and Terrorist skins.
With Gordon you have the gravity gun and the potential for a grappler/zoner mix of a character, the first of his kind in Smash. With Chell you have the portal gun and the massive wackiness you could do with portals. With Heavy you have the minigun as a massive "**** off" tool the same way it works in TF2.
When all is said and done I would also be fine with a Counter Strike character with a mix of Counter-Terrorists and Terrorist skins.
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Before the shadowdrop, I'd have said Paper Mario. Nowadays he's everywhere.
In general, I think Rayman and Shantae are being slept on. We're in a new season of DLC so who knows what's next?
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Another great leading lady of gaming dropped off the face of the earth by the 00's. If only Nintendo kept a better eye on their investments.I got your new FPS rep right here
Smash has already had Perfect Dark representation in the past, predating Banjo-Kazooie as the first original Rare IP in the series
DarthEnderX
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I mean...they're right. Portal is not an FPS because it's NOT a shooter. That's like calling Mirror's Edge an FPS. Or Ultima Underworld an FPS. It's a puzzle platformer by any metric.
Just because a game takes place from a first person perspective does not make it an FPS.
I find that acceptable.
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Those are looking pretty nice. You wanna post them on the Ribbon Girl Support Thread? Could use some samples of additional alts.
KneeOfJustice99
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Unpopular Opinion Alert
By now, surely Wiimote should be playable?
By now, surely Wiimote should be playable?
Speaking of "FPS reps that would be awesome but are - sadly - probably way too low on any priority lists":I got your new FPS rep right here
Smash has already had Perfect Dark representation in the past, predating Banjo-Kazooie as the first original Rare IP in the series
Made by a single Chinese game developer, Bright Memory aims to be the Devil May Cry / Dark Souls of first person shooters.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) April 4, 2020
Episode 1 is out on Steam now with a full version set to be released in the future.https://t.co/mL5tKsKBrn pic.twitter.com/1lOQbkUboI
Posting about this since Bright Memory Infinite (the full game) did get to lead off Microsoft's recent Xbox Series X showcase.
? / 10 Needs more Nunchuks.
of course, I'd be for that idea.
SMAASH! Puppy
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Last time I checked, Mirror's Edge doesn't have a gun that you use to shoot portals in first person as it's main premise.
It's still part FPS, it's just used for puzzles rather than attacking.
EDIT: At least not directly, you can still launch or throw enemies off cliffs and stuff.
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a character i would love to see. very plausible using zss as a base.I got your new FPS rep right here
Smash has already had Perfect Dark representation in the past, predating Banjo-Kazooie as the first original Rare IP in the series
still back here hoping for chun-li, dante, or sephiroth.
imnot sure if its one person upsetat jokers representation or more than one but joker is shown well. characters with large arsenals and various powers (inlcuding but not limited to) bayonetta. snake, Samus, links, joker, ness, and even lil mac have all had thier arsenals simplified for the sake of smash. part of smash appeal is that is it simple at face value and some of these characters come from games with combat systems so deep their own games don't explain it fully. (looking at you bayonetta). the fact joker only summons one persona is fine. bayo only summons one demon and only uses her guns. Link isnt using the rest of his large arsenal either, and samus is striped down to bare essentials (but since its a new game thats normal).
still not happy with the idea of rolling ARMs character together seems like a cop out and not in the spirit of smash portrayal of characters. but at this point i just want the character out so we can move to other things like ARMs day one tier placement discussion. lol.
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My personal Mii moveset would have entailed the Miis using Nintendo peripherals as weapons with the Wii mote becoming a sword or a javalin.
SMAASH! Puppy
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"Obviously they're broken. Just look at that range!"
"Nah they're trash. Too slow."
"Shouldn't we wait to see them played at a high level before making judgements?"
"What? No! How else am I going to spit out all my hot takes?"
EDIT: That's not to say I'm not guilty of this. lol
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DarthEnderX
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I mean, that is literally not a gun. It's a handheld portal device. Or is literally anything that projects anything a gun to you? Like, is your TV remote a gun?
Mirror's Edge also has ACTUAL guns by the way. It's still not a FPS.
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SMAASH! Puppy
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AKA: Portal Gun.
Any object who's main function that fires another object as as a projectile through the use of explosions or a similar force is a gun. A TV remote is not a gun because it just emits a specific heat signature.
EDIT: Besides, it doesn't matter if the Portal Gun is a gun or not. You're still shooting objects in first person. It's a first person shooter.
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True Blue Warrior
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*thread hops*
Spring Man is going to be the ARMS character for Smash.
Spring Man is going to be the ARMS character for Smash.
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What’s next, is he gonna say a Dragalia Lost Spirit Event is next?
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And the portal device does NEITHER of those things.
You're traversing an environment via solving puzzles. Which is done with a device that allows you to move puzzle elements around the environment.
You're basically calling Link's hookshot a gun and saying Zelda is a shooter as a result.
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True Blue Warrior
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If Rare stayed with Nintendo, we’d probably would have seen Joanna Dark, Banjo & Kazooie and a Killer Instinct character in Brawl or something.I got your new FPS rep right here
Smash has already had Perfect Dark representation in the past, predating Banjo-Kazooie as the first original Rare IP in the series
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JOANNA DARK WOULD BE ****ING DOPEI got your new FPS rep right here
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She has absolutely no chance but if god wants to reward me please add her she would be amazing
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Dude you’re making it worse lmao
I made a joke that you definitely could’ve just not acknowledge. it was literally the last couple words in my overall post and you chose to both QUOTE and HIGHLIGHT the minuscule part and insult me for it. you are the one contributing to the problem not me
The problem with this is that the Dragon Arm is distinct to Min Min. It's iconic to her. She also has the dragon arm ability which is unique to her. Having her without that would feel hallow.
Thats really the problem with this Bowser Jr concept people peddle. It strips the characters of what makes them special in order to just have more of them. Bowser Jr worked because the clown car is the real character. It worked for Hero because the character just uses a sword and magic which all of the heroes do and the series has a long legacy. With ARMS, you have a bunch of characters with unique personalities and abilities. They move and act in different ways. The ARMS themselves are unique to them. The Dragon Arms is unique to Min Min. The Chakram are unique to Ninjara. Even when character can equip similar ARMS, there are some that are identified with them.
The Bowser jr idea I feel is people who have never played ARMS. To them, the characters are all the same and they don't know a lot about the game anyway. The idea is really an injustice to the characters because it removes what makes them unique. As a fan, I'd much rather have one character, even if they weren't my favorite.
Anyways…what’s the opinion of Euden looking too similar to Shulk? I kinda see the similarities, but is that enough to warrant NOT getting a spot?
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