Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[NonSpecificGuy]

If Sakurai really does have such little say on the matter as he claims, he really doesn’t have anything planned after Fighter Pass 2, and may be entering retirement soon after fighter 11 is out, I wonder if Nintendo is planning on appointing a new director or something for a potential Fighter Pass 3 or Ultimate Deluxe. I mean if they’re already so heavily involved in character choices and the rest of the team had more say so in movesets this time around, why wouldn’t they be? I don’t think anyone would be upset about Sakurai passing the torch to another Director I just wonder what this means for the future of Ultimate.

Will they do a Fighter Pass 3 of like 4 characters so to test this new director or will they throw him in the deep end to get to work on Ultimate Deluxe or a brand new entry. Either way, if Sakurai really isn’t coming back after this Pass, Smash is about to get shaken up quite a bit.

 

[Will]

Either way, if Sakurai really isn’t coming back after this Pass, Smash is about to get shaken up quite a bit.

No one will like this new director unless he wipes out all of the Fire Emblem slots.

 

[Ben Holt]

I swear to God I'm not making this story up.

I was searching Google for the Super Mario Land manga where you see Mario's penis, and I found our actual ARMS representative.

 

[StrangeKitten]

What do you guys think of potentially a Gen 8 Pokemon getting in? I think it's rather likely, personally. I'd hope for my favorite starter Rillaboom, but there's a few good options.

I think it's likely. Sure, there was a spirit event, which lessens the chances a little. But it is Pokemon, so there are like 80 more they can use for a spirit board; of particular note are Eternatus, Urshifu, Calyrex, Wooloo, and Gigantamax Kanto starters (hello easy and obvious use of Pokemon Trainer's mons, giant-sized). I want a gen 8 rep; Toxtricity is my favorite, but I like all the frontrunners.

I swear to God I'm not making this story up.

I was searching Google for the Super Mario Land manga where you see Mario's penis, and I found our actual ARMS representative.

A man of Chuggaaconroy culture, I see.

 

[N3ON]

LOL


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The one true anime swordsman

Not pictured: sword

 

[HansShotFirst20]

I swear to God I'm not making this story up.

I was searching Google for the Super Mario Land manga where you see Mario's penis

The what?

 

[M@R!3]

I swear to God I'm not making this story up.

I was searching Google for the Super Mario Land manga where you see Mario's penis, and I found our actual ARMS representative.

Did I read that right?

Oh god, I did.

 

[Ben Holt]

A man of Chuggaaconroy culture, I see.

Yes. I did just watch his video, but I knew about the Mario weewee for years because I'm just that much of a Nintendork.

 

[HansShotFirst20]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge7DVdImR5w&list=LLdclHbaSWJzuXK9Dp4rosYw&index=2&t=0s

How accurate of a prediction do we think this is?

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Why do Splatoon, Arms and this all have the same weird candy-like asthetic?

Ah so that's why I don't care much for Arms and Splatoon's art style and why I like none of the characters.

I swear to God I'm not making this story up.

I was searching Google for the Super Mario Land manga where you see Mario's penis, and I found our actual ARMS representative.
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Why did you feel the need to say that you were looking for Mario's penis?

 

[Ben Holt]

Ah so that's why I don't care much for Arms and Splatoon's art style and why I like none of the characters.



Why did you feel the need to say that you were looking for Mario's penis?

Cause it's an hilarious transition from searching that to finding the true FP6 fighter.

 

[Trevenant]

Why did you feel the need to say that you were looking for Mario's penis?

Should probably put 'looking for Mario's on Google' to provide some much needed context.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

The what?

Yep, Mario strips off (in front of Princess Daisy no less) in the Super Mario Land manga adaptation.

It's played for comedy like Bart's skateboarding scene in the Simpsons movie but completely uncensored.

 

[SKX31]

The one true anime swordsman

Not pictured: sword

Who needs a sword when you've got one puncokay I'll stop now.

Yep, Mario strips off (in front of Princess Daisy no less) in the Super Mario Land manga adaptation.

It's played for comedy like Bart's skateboarding scene in the Simpsons movie but completely uncensored.

And I who thought that Mario Zone was the weirdest thing to come out of SML2...

 

[3BitSaurus]

Good day, Smashboards! How are we in this fine morn-

I was searching Google for the Super Mario Land manga where you see Mario's penis

I know there's context behind it and all, but the entire phrase makes me think of "just because you can doesn't mean you should".

 

[P.Kat]

What do you guys think of potentially a Gen 8 Pokemon getting in? I think it's rather likely, personally. I'd hope for my favorite starter Rillaboom, but there's a few good options.

I think it's likely, Cinderace is my favorite of the Gen 8 Pokémon starters, but my overall favorite for Gen 8 is Zacian.

The only problem is, she'd probably conflict with my most wanted Amaterasu. So if Amaterasu doesn't make it (regardless of her chances), I'd want Zacian, otherwise I'd like Cinderace.

I swear to God I'm not making this story up.

I was searching Google for the Super Mario Land manga where you see Mario's penis, and I found our actual ARMS representative.
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[Michael the Spikester]

Smash just isn't Smash without Sakurai. It'd be wise to make Ultimate the final game or at least have an spin-off but we know that isn't happening as the series makes ton load of money and really popular.

 

[Idon]

Smash just isn't Smash without Sakurai. It'd be wise to make Ultimate the final game or at least have an spin-off but we know that isn't happening as the series makes ton load of money and really popular.

I associate Smash more with the characters in it more than I do whoever is behind the scenes making the decisions. If a new director can do an adequate job, then there's no reason to just off a franchise.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Honestly I don't see the problem with Sakurai leaving, a lot of franchise see director change and are doing very fine, like Zelda is probably doing better than ever without Miyamoto.

 

[ZeldaPlayer87]

I mean they did hire a new director strictly for the Sword/Shield DLC, so I suppose anything is possible.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

After all the years of work Sakurai has done and for all of us. The man deserves it.

Hoping to see he starts doing smaller projects like an sequel to Kid Icarus: Uprising.

 

[Knight Dude]

KIU was a pretty hefty game, wouldn't exactly call it a "smaller project" But I'd be like to what Sakurai does after Smash Ultimate, though I imagine the dude probably wants a decent break.

If there's really gonna be more First Party characters, I wouldn't be too surprised if it was a Pokemon. Though there's not many I'm attached too for Gen 8.

 

[Garteam]

Friendly reminder that if you have an idea for you most wanted character’s Classic Mode route, you can create one in this thread!


BESPOKE:

How about no? Seriously, there’s no way one could honestly do all this without sucking out all their unique gameplay styles.

I disagree. Stats wise, they're relatively balanced, so giving them a shared stats spread as a single fighter in Smash isn't too bad. Ninjara may lose some speed and Min Min may gain some length to her punches, but overall its not that far fetched.

Likewise, none of these characters' unique abilities would be strange to see the other characters perform. The ARMS character has to have a parry and multiple jumps because of Smash's mechanics, so that takes care of Spring Man and Ribbon Girl. Likewise, Min Min's kick can easily be worked in as a neutral or up air, and it wouldn't be strange to see Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, or Ninjara kick. The only slightly difficult one is Ninjara's teleport, seeing how that's pretty personal to his ninja identity, but it still wouldn't be that odd to see the other cartoony characters vanish into smoke.

In terms of having multiple ARMS, it's likely that a glove-type arm will be mostly used with maybe a curve-type arm or multi-shot arm as a special move. Based on what little we've seen, Nintendo seems to really be going all-in on the ARMS character's range as their primary gimmick, so it makes sense they'd want to use the most vanilla arm to show off this idea. This would basically apply to any character who got in, regardless of their personal abilities. If Joker, Hero, and Byleth lost some of their identity to better show off the themes and mechanics of Persona 5, Dragon Quest, and Fire Emblem: Three Houses, it's highly likely the same will happen to the ARMS character regardless of who they are.

 

[wynn728]

You do have a point, but why bothering doing the guessing thing in that case?

To get people to talk about ARMS and checking out all the characters.

 

[Freduardo]

To get people to talk about ARMS and checking out all the characters.

And play the free trial that was on offer last week to probably squeeze the last bit of full sales before the game gets “Players Choice” price cut (which we’re hitting just about that time in the system’s lifespan, I would predict Splatoon 2, ARMs, Mario Kart 8 deluxe, NSMBU deluxe, Kirby, and that joy con tech demo to be 20 dollar “players choice” games with a price drop announced in either June or Q3. I base this speculation off nothing.)

—

So I’m reading posts talking about a gen 8 pokemon being the most likely first party rep past arms in the demo.

So let’s have fun with it! Play the game by saying your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash:

5) Rillaboom (Starters are traditional, except grass hasn’t had one yet, has a gmax form for final smash. Probably the most likely)
4) Wooloo (because there needed to be some reason your rival kept throwing out his damn Wooloo)
3) Corviknight
2) Galarian Rapidash
1) SirFetch’d

 

[StarBot]

After seeing this:

I have a good feeling that if we get another first party character, it's a good chance Burton, and Berecca (supposed main characters from Ninjala), can be a fair contender for DLC.

From what I've seen gameplaywise, I think they're alright, but I'd be disappointed they got in instead of Elma or other first party choices.
How does everyone else feel about them, and there chances for DLC?

It's kinda sad that Nintendo is extremely so low with interesting titles this year, that people are now wanting an extremely cheap looking game in Smash, because it vaguely looks like a other Nintendo game

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It's kinda sad that Nintendo is extremely so low with interesting titles this year, that people are now wanting an extremely cheap looking game in Smash, because it vaguely looks like a other Nintendo game

We have Bayo 3 and NMH3 right? right?

 

[Diddy Kong]

I still think a new Zelda character is quite likely to get into Smash through DLC. I have no idea who yet. As we know next to nothing about the upcoming game, but I can't shake the feeling that we might get a character from BotW2.

 

[Cosmic77]

And play the free trial that was on offer last week to probably squeeze the last bit of full sales before the game gets “Players Choice” price cut (which we’re hitting just about that time in the system’s lifespan, I would predict Splatoon 2, ARMs, Mario Kart 8 deluxe, NSMBU deluxe, Kirby, and that joy con tech demo to be 20 dollar “players choice” games with a price drop announced in either June or Q3. I base this speculation off nothing.)

—

So I’m reading posts talking about a gen 8 pokemon being the most likely first party rep past arms in the demo.

So let’s have fun with it! Play the game by saying your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash:

5) Rillaboom (Starters are traditional, except grass hasn’t had one yet, has a gmax form for final smash. Probably the most likely)
4) Wooloo (because there needed to be some reason your rival kept throwing out his damn Wooloo)
3) Corviknight
2) Galarian Rapidash
1) SirFetch’d

5. Inteleon
4. Cinderace
3. Obstagoon
2. Dragapult
1 Zacian/Zamazenta (Counting them as one since I feel like it's cheap to have them occupy two spots on the list).

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I still think a new Zelda character is quite likely to get into Smash through DLC. I have no idea who yet. As we know next to nothing about the upcoming game, but I can't shake the feeling that we might get a character from BotW2.

I will die on the Young Impa hill.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I disagree. Stats wise, they're relatively balanced, so giving them a shared stats spread as a single fighter in Smash isn't too bad. Ninjara may lose some speed and Min Min may gain some length to her punches, but overall its not that far fetched.

This I agree with for he most part. Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, Min Min, and Ninjara do have very similar speeds. Not so much for the other character (they're often slower), but these four are probably the most similar in regards to speed. (I don't really know what ARM girth does so that wouldn't bother me either.)

Likewise, none of these characters' unique abilities would be strange to see the other characters perform. The ARMS character has to have a parry and multiple jumps because of Smash's mechanics, so that takes care of Spring Man and Ribbon Girl.

Nope. Spring Man's deflect barrier is not the same as Super Smash Bros.'s parry mechanic. It's something that happens after you stop charging, not shielding. In fact, ARMS also has a parry mechanic, it's just called something different, and is less noticeable (though more useful) when you pull it off.

Spring Man is an all-rounded character, so giving him Ribbon Girl's emphasis on aerial play would be weird.
EDIT: In fact, aside from Ribbon Girl, Dr. Coyle, and I think Mechanica, jumping is a bad idea in general, so Ribbon Girl's gimmicks wouldn't make sense on Ninjara or Min Min either.

Likewise, Min Min's kick can easily be worked in as a neutral or up air, and it wouldn't be strange to see Spring Man, Ribbon Girl, or Ninjara kick.

I hate the idea of the kick being turned into an offensive move. That's not it's purpose. And yes, it would be strange to see Spring Man kick; He's a boxer, not a mixed martial artist like Min Min. It also doesn't quite jive with the light and airy Ribbon Girl's personality.

The only slightly difficult one is Ninjara's teleport, seeing how that's pretty personal to his ninja identity, but it still wouldn't be that odd to see the other cartoony characters vanish into smoke.

Yes it would. There is no indication that they can do that. It'd be like if Donkey Kong, Kirby, Bowser, or the Ice Climbers started ninja vanishing for no reason.

In terms of having multiple ARMS, it's likely that a glove-type arm will be mostly used with maybe a curve-type arm or multi-shot arm as a special move. Based on what little we've seen, Nintendo seems to really be going all-in on the ARMS character's range as their primary gimmick, so it makes sense they'd want to use the most vanilla arm to show off this idea. This would basically apply to any character who got in, regardless of their personal abilities.

This I agree with. I doubt any character wouldn't have access to their default ARMS, but I don't see them allowing Min Min to use the Dragon ARM in her normals or anything like that.

 

[Mr. Game + Watch]

If Sakurai really does have such little say on the matter as he claims, he really doesn’t have anything planned after Fighter Pass 2, and may be entering retirement soon after fighter 11 is out, I wonder if Nintendo is planning on appointing a new director or something for a potential Fighter Pass 3 or Ultimate Deluxe. I mean if they’re already so heavily involved in character choices and the rest of the team had more say so in movesets this time around, why wouldn’t they be? I don’t think anyone would be upset about Sakurai passing the torch to another Director I just wonder what this means for the future of Ultimate.

Will they do a Fighter Pass 3 of like 4 characters so to test this new director or will they throw him in the deep end to get to work on Ultimate Deluxe or a brand new entry. Either way, if Sakurai really isn’t coming back after this Pass, Smash is about to get shaken up quite a bit.

I missed a lot of pages, so could u send me a link if this comes from an article unless it is just people speculating

 

[Goombaic]

your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash

5. Dragapult
4. Zacian
3. Cinderace
2. Grimmsnarl
1. Toxtricity

 

[MagnesD3]

Forum game:

People whine there are too many “anime sword users” in smash.

But people love games with anime sword users.

So what I’m going to ask you all you to do is double the amount of characters in season 2’s fighter pass and give me for each slot except the first one: An anime swordsman you want, and then a non-“anime swordsman” character you want. Except for the first slot, where your wanted slot will go to an ARMs character(s). The (s) because you can make alts if you want.

FP6 Arms: Lola Pop (Lanky Kong alt)
FP6 anime sword: Crono

FP7 want: Bonk
FP7 anime sword: Lloyd/Cless “Tales” rep

FP8 want: Ring Fit Adventurer
FP8 anime sword: Goemon (Konami)

FP9 want: Mike Jones
FP9 anime sword: Takamaru

FP10 want: Captain Syrup
FP10 anime sword: Sora

FP11 want: Bandana Dee
FP11 anime sword: Yoshimitsu (Soul Calibur)

FP6: Twintelle
FP6 anime sword: Sora

FP7: Crash Bandicoot
FP7 anime sword: Sephiroth

FP8: Master Chief
FP8 anime sword: Saki (Sin and Punishment)

FP9: Spyro
FP9 anime sword: Dante

FP10: Paper Mario
FP10 anime sword: Lyn

FP11: Krystal
FP11 anime sword: Demise with Ghirahim

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

It's kinda sad that Nintendo is extremely so low with interesting titles this year, that people are now wanting an extremely cheap looking game in Smash, because it vaguely looks like a other Nintendo game

He didn't say he wanted it though, just that he thought it was likely. He also thought it was a Nintendo game even though it isn't. To be fair though so did I.

So let’s have fun with it! Play the game by saying your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash:

Here's what I'd like.
#5: Rillaboom-The objectively best starter pick with no bias whatsoever. I'd like it to be a more basic character and not have some rhythm mechanic shoved in.
#4: Toxtricity-I love the design, but I never got the chance to click with it in game so eh.
#3: Cramourant-Gulp Missile. 'Nuff said.
#2: Orbeetle-I never expected to love this Pokémon, but here we are. It's also unlike other potential newcomers so people won't be able to say "I wanted this mechanic/motif on a character I actually care about".
#1: The Weapon Doggos-Bet'cha can't guess why I like these two!

Here's what I expect:
#5: Intelleon-Super spy starter that has clicked with a lot of people, and is getting a Gigantamax form soon.
#4: Cindrace-The objectively worst starter pick with no bias whatsoever. It's the most popular of the trio for some reason, and is getting a Gigantamax form soon.
#3: Toxtricity-The most popular of the Galar Pokémon, who's getting a Gigantamax form soon.
#2: Calyrex-The pick if it's one of the later characters. At least it wouldn't be boring.
#1: Urshifu-The pick if it's one of the earlier characters (though #5-#3 have more of a shot here). Probably the worst pick period.

 

[PeridotGX]

And play the free trial that was on offer last week to probably squeeze the last bit of full sales before the game gets “Players Choice” price cut (which we’re hitting just about that time in the system’s lifespan, I would predict Splatoon 2, ARMs, Mario Kart 8 deluxe, NSMBU deluxe, Kirby, and that joy con tech demo to be 20 dollar “players choice” games with a price drop announced in either June or Q3. I base this speculation off nothing.)

—

So I’m reading posts talking about a gen 8 pokemon being the most likely first party rep past arms in the demo.

So let’s have fun with it! Play the game by saying your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash:

5) Rillaboom (Starters are traditional, except grass hasn’t had one yet, has a gmax form for final smash. Probably the most likely)
4) Wooloo (because there needed to be some reason your rival kept throwing out his damn Wooloo)
3) Corviknight
2) Galarian Rapidash
1) SirFetch’d

5) Inteleon (If I had to choose a starter)
4) Sirfech'd
3) Cramourant (yes, the bird thing)
2) Grimmsnarl
1) Mr. Rime

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Imagine if they added Cramourant, and then gave it's Gulp Missile extra utility:

• It picks up item this way, and does more damage when throwing them.
  • Just imagine it firing the Daybreak while holding it in it's mouth. Glorious.
• It uses it in it's throws.
• One of its Special Moves, Surf, will give it various small characters such as:
  • Arrocuda
  • Pikachu
  • Mr. Saturn
  • Keeby
  • Prince Tricky
  • Bob-omb
  • Toad
  • Boney

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Play the game by saying your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash:

5) Rillaboom (Starters are traditional, except grass hasn’t had one yet, has a gmax form for final smash. Probably the most likely)
4) Wooloo (because there needed to be some reason your rival kept throwing out his damn Wooloo)
3) Corviknight
2) Galarian Rapidash
1) SirFetch’d

5. Dracovish
4. Centiskorch
3. Mr. Rime
2. Falinks
1. Flapple

 

[Mamboo07]

And play the free trial that was on offer last week to probably squeeze the last bit of full sales before the game gets “Players Choice” price cut (which we’re hitting just about that time in the system’s lifespan, I would predict Splatoon 2, ARMs, Mario Kart 8 deluxe, NSMBU deluxe, Kirby, and that joy con tech demo to be 20 dollar “players choice” games with a price drop announced in either June or Q3. I base this speculation off nothing.)

—

So I’m reading posts talking about a gen 8 pokemon being the most likely first party rep past arms in the demo.

So let’s have fun with it! Play the game by saying your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash:

5) Rillaboom (Starters are traditional, except grass hasn’t had one yet, has a gmax form for final smash. Probably the most likely)
4) Wooloo (because there needed to be some reason your rival kept throwing out his damn Wooloo)
3) Corviknight
2) Galarian Rapidash
1) SirFetch’d

5. Cinderace
4. Dracovish
3. Rillaboom (AKA: Baboom)
2. Zacian and Zazamenta
1. Toxtricity

 

[StrangeKitten]

So let’s have fun with it! Play the game by saying your top 5 galarian pokemon reps for smash:

5. Urshifu (Sorry haters, I like this one!)
4. Zacian and/or Zamazenta
3. Rillaboom
2. Obstagoon
1. Toxtricity