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To be fair, there's nobody in the current Persona team who has experience with the first three games and their lead writer has left ATLUS.
Still would have been, in my opinion, nice to get a couple of Persona 2 tracks with Joker to play on Mementos in Smash. Maya's theme and the main Innocent Sin battle theme (along with the Knights of the Holy Lance track) are pretty dang good.
Nintendo wouldn't have done one if they had no intention of considering the results.
I'm pretty sure the time of the ballot has passed. They picked whoever they were going to pick, put them in the base game, and made Hero and Banjo DLC because their publishers wanted it that way. The other characters we got (Joker, Terry, Byleth) were either completely irrelevant on the ballot, or didn't exist while the ballot was running.
Because when I think of Casual Switch games, I think Fire Emblem Three Houses. Seriously, I don't know if you've noticed, but not exactly responding postively to Byleth isn't limited to this forum and honestly it feels like it's been taken worse everywhere else. I don't think a 60:40 split of likes and dislikes on the presentation shows that Byleth was exactly recieved well by the general audience. The vast majority of people I've seen who are fine with Byleth still admit it wasn't a good choice to end the pass with and that it was still underwhelming even if they enjoyed it.
True, but as others have said, it's super outdated, and it's not THE ONLY THING they follow. It was probably more to get the pulse of what the community wanted, but again, people answering that poll were also the ones really into the speculation, which is mostly what we see here on Smash Boards. It doesn't mean there aren't other people, and people denying Joker, Hero and Terry were good picks are simply not looking at the bigger picture. They might not have scored on that poll, but they're still amazing picks and in the spirit of the game.
This is a prime example of why the climate on here is so biased. What is a casual gamer to you? Just those who play Kirby games? Farmville? There's a TON of variety in what a casual gamer can mean. It's those who know smash from the good times they've had on the N64 but never would have expected a pro-tournament about it. It's those gamers that play for fun, and RPGs / Tactical games are part of it too! So yes people could have picked up Fire Emblem and played it casually, going through some maps or the whole game. It doesn't mean they're super invested in writing detailed guides and optimizing their ****. They're the ones who have Smash and play it with friends, with items, on random stages, because it's great couch multiplayer fun! None of those demographics, despite being gamers, will ever be well represented on here. Because the few that do, like me, get pushed back right away by the holy truth that some Smash Boards users have.
Before, it was 100%, but now it's more 50/50 on FPv2, though I do think that the event spirtis (RE, astral chain, etc.) do deconfirm. I still think AT's and other gameplay elements deconfirm.
I'm currently taking the stance that they do owing to the added weekly Spirit events, but I'm not married to the idea that they're deconfirmed forever. Plus there's no fun in trying to stop people from speculating anyway.
I don't think there's anything physically stopping Nintendo and development team from making Spirits playable but I think they simply won't be playable judging from the direction of the last pass.
Maybe the companies just didn't consider renewing the license to be worth it? idk.
That is a good point....
meanwhile the people on the Geno thread are talking as though he's already been announced.
I still remember how back in the Wii era some journos touted fire emblem as one of the most hardcore Nintendo series
Also have the slight suspicion that if B&K hadn't made it they would have joined your list of troll picks.
Ah, yes, it's not as if there's people who actually like said characters and that they come from good games. No, it's just memes!
Come on, you knew what I meant and reworded it yourself a sentence later. No need for these endless sarcasm based rhetorics at every slight word that's not 100% what you think it should be. The whole point is that there's a bigger picture that nobody here has access to, information-wise. I would never claim that a pick is 100% troll based. But there's a huge meme bandwagon about Waluigi and Geno, that unlike Banjo and Kazooie, was non-existant during the era of the original Smash.
For the first part in bold. I mean... that's kinda what you did in your op. If you say that some people supporting Waluigi and Geno are just bandwagoning, then fine, but then again... that argument can be made for almost any character. So it makes no sense to single out only the ones that the core fanbase likes. It comes across as you hating on them just because you wish the core fanbase liked the same characters you do.
...basically equating FE with the casual, more mainstream audience. Which is simply not true and I even point out it's also not true for a majority of FP1.
Everybody pretty much agrees that if they got a spirit event (like Ring Fit or Resident Evil), they're deconfirmed.
I'm not sure there is, but here are my thoughts:
I agree with these and I’ll throw in a few other opinions of mine:
Tom Nook Collects his own Debt!
Is there a difference between third parties in the base game and DLC? If you think they won't negotiate for a character twice, that should also rule out characters like Geno or Bomberman.
Why how many Final Smashes he appears in matters? We know they aren't going to change them anyway.
The endgame of New Horizons is Tom Nook buying out Nintendo.
I find it weird they didn't do something like this for Rex and his mii costume.
They could do it for Nakoruru’s Spirit Board battle too, pop her Mii fighter in there
Yeah you’re probably right lmao. I’m most likely just mis-remembering things. But I don’t see how verge ‘leaked’ a Dragon Quest character. If my memory serves correctly, he only leaked a Square Enix character. That could’ve been Geno, Sora, 2B, or any other popular choice. But the fact that Erdrick got speculated over them shows that many people actually considered them plausible.
Had it not been for the brave datamine then everyone would not have jumped the wagon instantly. Though to be fair if people were talking gaming history ghen yeah Hero is the logical pick.
I think Rex might be the sole exception just for being part of version 1.0 of the game.
Then my good man, just leave the thread if you have that mentality. This thread is for speculating newcomers for the season pass. If you are this negative in mentality towards the whole thing, then you are better off leaving the thread instead of being a complete buzzkill for everyone who wants to have fun. If anything, you are just wasting your time and energy and in current circumstances, both could use better applications.
Any of these guys are fine in my book. If any, they're probaboy the only few male characters I support (aside from Rex). Probably due to my FGC background, but all of them would rock.
Idk if he's being negative towards speculation as a whole, I think he just means that he's satisfied with the roster as-is, and getting hype for uncertain characters is likely just to end in disappointment.
You want some ideas, well here you go.
I’m gonna get one thing clear before replying to this. If the character has an active support thread, it can’t be considered disappointing. Maybe disappointing to you, but not a disappointing character. Now let’s begin.
1) You make it sound like all of them are going to be bad additions. Hell, if they are unexpected pics, chances are people will be more hype for them.