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It will be exciting to read some of your speculation again!I'm going to finally make a new speculation post on smashboards based on the new info from Sakurai's book. Hopefully, something mindblowing comes up. It should be fun. Will probably be posted by tonight.
I actually did not know about a lot of this, and honestly I doubt the public would. If this is true and comes out to be a more consistently released franchise, then I think your point would be valid. The big problem with Avatar is that it really didn’t have anything to keep popularity up for pretty much a decade. The Disney thing is pretty new and stage shows aren’t exactly the most “main stream” thing. To me, it seems more like Avatar has been through development hell for the past decade and just died off, but 4 movies with more consistent schedules really could bring the franchise back.
1) Sega - Joker already in
I'm leaning on Square Enix, Microsoft, Capcom and Koei Tecmo right now. Could also see Bethesda, Bandai Namco or SNK though.
I don't mind it, since it allowed Battle Angel to finally be adapted (and a proper Terminator sequel that ignores the last 3 films, that's unexpected).
Given that Sega's already in and SE's expected out of rumors, the next 2 companies that could be in are Koei-Tecmo with either Ryu Hayabusa or a Musou character (most specifically Zhao Yun or Yukimura Sanada) and Bandai Namco with Nightmare or maybe a Tales character, which leads us to 1 other company. I'm hoping for a complete wildcard choice, so in my mind, I'm going for either Devolver Digital (with how many Indie games they've released it's hard to narrow down who'd fit Smash) or whatever company holds the Cooking Mama IP.
Out of those I'm betting on Leon with maybe a Jill alt but I don't know if that would work.
I'd work just fine, I don't think height could be an issue, just make visual changes to the base model and thats all.
Not really feeling Activision to be honest.
If Crash Bandicoot couldn't make it into Playstation All-Stars or the Playstation Classic, I doubt Activision have much interest in playing ball.
Both of those flopped, so I think it was more a case of caution than anything else.
Playstation All-Stars was done by an all new studio. They barely could get a lot of big guns. There was little faith in them.
I mean, the PSC had a lot of strange decisions behind it. No dual shock (by proxy meaning no Ape Escape), only one Twisted Metal, some previously worldwide games only being on the Japanese release, and so forth.
That too. It was doomed to fail. Yeah, makes a lot of sense now.
I doubt Activision care about the integrity for Crash as a character though. Playstation All-Stars only sold about a million copies, which was fine? But a big part of that was the lack of Snake (over Raiden), Tomb Raider, Crash and Spyro. All characters I'm sure Sony could have shelled out money for if they really cared.
Playstation Classic was probably hampered by Activision knowing they had the re-releases of Crash and Spyro out recently or on the horizon. But that line-up was so lacking in actual Playstation classics it's bizarre they thought it was a good idea, other than Nintendo had been successful with the NES and SNES
I mean, Bethesda is apparently on Smash speaking terms if that means anything?No company sounds like they're in a particularly good position over the others to say they're "the most likely" outside of SE with their leak boy Erdrick, though my gut's giving me a feeling we'll see someone from Bandai.
I honestly wouldn’t be too sure. Capcom already got 2 franchises in Smash and 3 total characters. DLC seems like the perfect time for Nintendo to help out some of their new friends being Techmo Koei who develop tons of Warriors games for them, Ubisoft who have been loading the Switch with content, Bethesda who is doing a great job of at least putting the work in to get same time releases and all their titles on Switch, and Microsoft who, judging upon leaks, is going to step in to help Nintendo with online and load their titles onto the system. I guess what I’m saying is, many new players have entered the ring this console generation, so Nintendo may pick characters from them to keep them as friends of the company.
This probably more due to Crash being dead during All-Stars and the company being more strict back then. Square also opted out of All-Stars if that brings any hope.
You forgot Cloud
I believe 1 of Bethesda's key figures answered a question on if they've spoken to Nintendo about Smash with him giving a simple yeah. To me, it sorta sounds like they've offered Nintendo to put 1 of their characters in Smash rather than the other way around. Whether if Nintendo actually accepted it is a question we won't know for now, but I'm not really thinking there will be a Fighter from Bethesda.
Don't you dare diss my boy Sonny from Cocoa Puffs
If they did let licensed characters in here, that one would be the last thing anyone would have in mind.
You mean Incineroar?
Ohhh... Thank God. And for a second I thought the Smash Community would be against the greatest Football player of all time, Tom Brady being a character. Guys if he can win 6 Super Bowl rings, I think he can win the 6th DLC spot for Smash.
I disagree with Sakurai here about DLC shortening the lifespan. Frankly, I believe after the Fighters Pass is completely done with development, Sakurai should seriously consider the achievement of bringing every veteran back and realize he can make Smash's roster more legendary by adding more Japanese gaming icons. If this is the only game where we have everyone and have an assortment of gaming icons, the only direction to go is up. He should do it while he has companies like Square, Konami, Capcom, Namco, and SEGA on Sakurai's side, happy to negotiate and trusting of Sakurai to implement their characters in Smash. The roster Sakurai is building right now can go beyond.
I personally feel certain that around the consideration of Smash DLC, Geno and Monster Hunter were heavily considered but rejected. I imagine with Geno that when Sakurai negotiated for Cloud, he asked if he could add Geno in addition, with Square rejecting the offer due to them seeing Geno as not much a good business opportunity, relegating Geno at most to a favorable role like a Mii costume. With Monster Hunter, I think Sakurai did what he could to negotiate with MH's creator (whom didn't agree to MH's addition MvCI and previous games) to at most letting the franchise get a few Mii costumes, later getting more privileges with adding Ratholos in Ultimate.
I think it is safe to assume that DLC might have been planned and finalized around February to November 2018. A couple of scenarios I can think of from the top of my head of negotiations that could have took place around those times include:
Do you guys think with Splatoon being the recent big success and limited spots for base game newcomers because of the veterans direction prevented Chorus Kids from happening? I think this quote reinforced one of my theories for CK's exclusion in Ultimate's base game back in my Ultimate thoughts thread. This quote kinda makes me sad TBH that Rhythm Heaven has not received the character representation it utmost deserves.
This quote to me affirms to me that Spirits were never a good idea. I think Sakurai could have fleshed out the Spirits idea more had he been given a bigger budget for World of Light, or he could have decided on just bringing trophies back. Spirits as it is were not the best way to represent a ton of Nintendo franchises.
Shigeru Miyamoto "suggested" to Kensuke Tanabe to have Retro come up with their own villains instead of bringing K. Rool back.
Realistically what I think is that SE, Capcom and Namco are extremely likely just due the fact of being on board already, having a ton of popular franchises and that I think they have excellent relations with Nintendo for quite a long time. After that its a tossup between Konami (although can't think of many characters that aren't in the game already aside from Bill Rizer), MS, Bethesda, SNK, Ubisoft and Activision.
We dunno how much of the BK IP Nintendo actually owned, if they only owned BK (as in the character only) it would make a lot of sense to exchange just to have the complete control on the DK IP.
I think the most glaring omission on those results is Wolf. Although to give it some credit I think that the results would look like that in regards of having some characters grouped as a franchise, and other characters individually.
Wolf is listed in fired veterans and that's still a pretty high ranking. I think the support for Wolf actually is that smaller compared to the likes of Snake and Ice Climbers but still high. It seems like a vocal minority thing.
Really? Dont remember seeing him listed the other day, its been a while since I saw it though.
It's also possible due to a huge amount of people expecting him to come back, they didn't vote for his return.
Overall, Inkling, Snake Ice Climbers were the top 3.
Memo didn't showed Wolf, which was my point and feels surprising given he is one of the most popular veterans. That seems like a big deal even with the mention of the veterans scoring high.
That and they used Donte instead of Dante
So why aren't we seeing more meme support for Darth Vader and Harry around here?
Probably right. I just know Diablo III was a big deal with the Switch. Bethesda was the one that really had me thinking as the CEO has made supportive comments in the past and even confirmed he had discussions with Nintendo about Smash on one occasion. (This really makes me think the Doomguy leaks have potential).
Ok, 4chan user.
I wonder if this was done to experiment a bit more given that they can't seemingly have a Mario game without Bowser as a villain.
They did this for Smash Wii U