Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Noipoi]

I saw this tweet and have a question for all y'all
Thoughts on if this happened? I'd personally be conflicted as Celeste is a ****ing brilliant game but being able to beat up Madeline just feels absolutely wrong to me

Complete and utter neutral opinion

 

[perfectchaos83]

I saw this tweet and have a question for all y'all

So, Joker, the protag of a Game of the Year award nominee was added into Smash during the Game Awards the following year.
Wouldn't it be cool if they, like
did that again *wink wink* pic.twitter.com/zphXLG4H0I

— DusterBuster (Comms Open!) (@SirDusterBuster) December 11, 2019

Thoughts on if this happened? I'd personally be conflicted as Celeste is a ****ing brilliant game but being able to beat up Madeline just feels absolutely wrong to me

I don't see it happening, especially considering that the line up was absolutely decided upon before they decided to do a VGA reveal.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

It fits Color Theory.
But didn't Sabi say that it was someone Vergeben "accidentally" deconfirmed but then backtracked on?

I'm speaking purely hypothetically, ignoring anything anybody has said on the matter

Shes asking for it really

 

[perfectchaos83]

It fits Color Theory.
But didn't Sabi say that it was someone Vergeben "accidentally" deconfirmed but then backtracked on?

Yes, but at the same time that same source has also absolutely ignored KOS-MOS when Sabi brought her up. So who knows what the **** is going on with that conversation

 

[Knight Dude]

Would beating up any other video game kid really be as bad as beating up someone like Lucas for example?

Still, it's a fighting game, I'd throw hands with anyone really.

 

[MissingGlitch]

I saw this tweet and have a question for all y'all

So, Joker, the protag of a Game of the Year award nominee was added into Smash during the Game Awards the following year.
Wouldn't it be cool if they, like
did that again *wink wink* pic.twitter.com/zphXLG4H0I

— DusterBuster (Comms Open!) (@SirDusterBuster) December 11, 2019

Thoughts on if this happened? I'd personally be conflicted as Celeste is a ****ing brilliant game but being able to beat up Madeline just feels absolutely wrong to me

TRANS REP
TRANS REP

yesyesyesyesyes

 

[NabiscoFelt]

I saw this tweet and have a question for all y'all

So, Joker, the protag of a Game of the Year award nominee was added into Smash during the Game Awards the following year.
Wouldn't it be cool if they, like
did that again *wink wink* pic.twitter.com/zphXLG4H0I

— DusterBuster (Comms Open!) (@SirDusterBuster) December 11, 2019

Thoughts on if this happened? I'd personally be conflicted as Celeste is a ****ing brilliant game but being able to beat up Madeline just feels absolutely wrong to me

How would you make a moveset out of a character who can only jump and dash?

 

[PLATINUM7]

How would you make a moveset out of a character who can only jump and dash?

Make stuff up, throw in elements from the game the she doesn't necessarily use, be creative.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Would beating up any other video game kid really be as bad as beating up someone like Lucas for example?

Still, it's a fighting game, I'd throw hands with anyone really.

Lucas' world is blatanty fantasy despite the themes alongside the more cartoony aesthetic, I find Celeste more grounded despite this magical mountain

How would you make a moveset out of a character who can only jump and dash?

Ask the guy who made a potted plant a character

 

[Knight Dude]

How would you make a moveset out of a character who can only jump and dash?

Considering where Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Fox, Falco, and Wolf come from. It shouldn't be a big deal. To a lesser extent Pac-Man as well.

 

[Night Gale]

I saw this tweet and have a question for all y'all

So, Joker, the protag of a Game of the Year award nominee was added into Smash during the Game Awards the following year.
Wouldn't it be cool if they, like
did that again *wink wink* pic.twitter.com/zphXLG4H0I

— DusterBuster (Comms Open!) (@SirDusterBuster) December 11, 2019

Thoughts on if this happened? I'd personally be conflicted as Celeste is a ****ing brilliant game but being able to beat up Madeline just feels absolutely wrong to me

I wouldn't mind Madeline/Badeline but I understand what you mean.

This game looks fantastic but it would feel wrong in Super Smash.

 

[Idon]

How would you make a moveset out of a character who can only jump and dash?

Generic punches and kicks, in-world items like the accelerator orb or feather, maybe summoning Badeline...

It's obviously not gonna happen, but a moveset is not gonna be the thing stopping it.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

How would you make a moveset out of a character who can only jump and dash?

Sakurai has made much more from much less. Madeline has PLENTY of stuff to pull from in terms of Celeste's general level gimmicks and her alter ego.

 

[Mango The Magician]

I saw this tweet and have a question for all y'all

So, Joker, the protag of a Game of the Year award nominee was added into Smash during the Game Awards the following year.
Wouldn't it be cool if they, like
did that again *wink wink* pic.twitter.com/zphXLG4H0I

— DusterBuster (Comms Open!) (@SirDusterBuster) December 11, 2019

Thoughts on if this happened? I'd personally be conflicted as Celeste is a ****ing brilliant game but being able to beat up Madeline just feels absolutely wrong to me

I love Celeste and Madeline but I get what you mean, it's in the same boat as Animal Crossing where I don't think it should be in Smash even though I want it/like it in Smash.

TRANS REP
TRANS REP

yesyesyesyesyes

Madeline isn't trans AFAIK...did I miss something?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I love Celeste and Madeline but I get what you mean, it's in the same boat as Animal Crossing where I don't think it should be in Smash even though I want it/like it in Smash.

Madeline isn't trans AFAIK...did I miss something?

The DLC chapter leaves some heavy suggestions that she is trans, including a bottle of pills similar to what trans people on HRT have and 2 pride flags at her laptop, one being the trans flag

 

[Ben Holt]

Considering where Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, Fox, Falco, and Wolf come from. It shouldn't be a big deal. To a lesser extent Pac-Man as well.

Pac-Man had plenty of moves to choose from.
Pac Man 2, Pac In Time, and Pac-Man World Trilogy had plenty to pull from had Pac-Man not been so reference heavy.

 

[Calamitas]

TRANS REP
TRANS REP

yesyesyesyesyes

But Donkey Kong, who famously says "Trans Rights", has already been in since 64!

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Pac-Man had plenty of moves to choose from.
Pac Man 2, Pac In Time, and Pac-Man World Trilogy had plenty to pull from had Pac-Man not been so reference heavy.

That... That's his point. His point is they made **** up for Pacman yet he has enough without making **** up

 

[GoodGrief741]

I saw this tweet and have a question for all y'all

So, Joker, the protag of a Game of the Year award nominee was added into Smash during the Game Awards the following year.
Wouldn't it be cool if they, like
did that again *wink wink* pic.twitter.com/zphXLG4H0I

— DusterBuster (Comms Open!) (@SirDusterBuster) December 11, 2019

Thoughts on if this happened? I'd personally be conflicted as Celeste is a ****ing brilliant game but being able to beat up Madeline just feels absolutely wrong to me

I dunno, I don't think Celeste is like successful or influential enough to warrant inclusion, so *shrugs*

 

[Knight Dude]

Pac-Man had plenty of moves to choose from.
Pac Man 2, Pac In Time, and Pac-Man World Trilogy had plenty to pull from had Pac-Man not been so reference heavy.

I meant strictly his origins/most popular version as just eating dots. Hence "To a lesser extent". His Side B and Up-Air are from PMW2 from what I remember. Besides, I had more than enough examples of characters with very little to base off making a full fighting game moveset.

Again, Captain Falcon spending all his time in a really fast car, so make him move really fast and hit hard to somewhat replicate this in another context.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

I dunno, I don't think Celeste is like successful or influential enough to warrant inclusion, so *shrugs*

Even so, it's a spectacular game, I'd recommend it to anyone with any love of Platforming.

 

[Souless_shadow]

Shes asking for it really

Spoiler: Image size

Sir if you don't take that back IMMEDIATELY

 

[Cutie Gwen]

But Donkey Kong, who famously says "Trans Rights", has already been in since 64!

Tbf supporting trans rights doesn't mean DK is trans rep as he may be cis

Even so, it's a spectacular game, I'd recommend it to anyone with any love of Platforming.

Considering the assist mode I feel Celeste is a game that one can recommend to literally anybody

 

[Mango The Magician]

The DLC chapter leaves some heavy suggestions that she is trans, including a bottle of pills similar to what trans people on HRT have and 2 pride flags at her laptop, one being the trans flag

Oh I havent played the DLC, I forgot it came out to be honest. That's cool though, granted I'd wait for confirmation of some sort before jumping on said train, but that's just me. Still I already liked the character, cool to see she might represent me in some form.

 

[Knight Dude]

There's also characters like Rosalina and Zelda, who essentially steal **** from the main character of the series to make their movesets. Most of the stuff we see Rosalina do she usually doesn't do in the Mario games(like shooting starbits or using launch stars), but since she's from Galaxy, and it has very unique Mechanics that Mario himself doesn't implement why not apply said mechanics to a side character who originates from the same game as said mechanics. Zelda doesn't ever use Din's Fire, but Link does, and he doesn't need it because dude's got more important staple weapons to pull from.

Any other characters that could/would work like that? Apply one and done moves/gimmicks?

 

[Calamitas]

Tbf supporting trans rights doesn't mean DK is trans rep as he may be cis

A cis main character? In a Nintendo game? Everyone knows that the only Nintendo game that ever had a cis protagonist was Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

. . .Okay but seriously now I kinda wanna edit the "Everyone is here!" line from the E3 2018 trailer into "Everyone is trans!"

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

Thought I'd do a quick before I go to class (even though I've zero sleep thanks to a cranky neighbour who was arguing all night.)

Anything new?

I dunno, I don't think Celeste is like successful or influential enough to warrant inclusion, so *shrugs*

Would be pretty fine with Celeste. I adore the game but would raise eyebrows compared to bigger indies. I'm betting a Sans situation for Madelene if it happens.

 

[KirbyMonadoBoy]

sakurai walks up on stage and reveals he is retiring from the human race

fighter 5 is cancelled

... then everything goes dark and suddenly we hear a loud scream and see a white text bubble with red letters: "OBJECTION!!"

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Thought I'd do a quick before I go to class (even though I've zero sleep thanks to a cranky neighbour who was arguing all night.)

Anything new?


Would be pretty fine with Celeste. I adore the game but would raise eyebrows compared to bigger indies. I'm betting a Sans situation for Madelene if it happens.

TGA leaks are happening as seen with an Arkham related domain name suddenly popping up

 

[Guybrush20X6]

There's also characters like Rosalina and Zelda, who essentially steal **** from the main character of the series to make their movesets. Most of the stuff we see Rosalina do she usually doesn't do in the Mario games(like shooting starbits or using launch stars), but since she's from Galaxy, and it has very unique Mechanics that Mario himself doesn't implement why not apply said mechanics to a side character who originates from the same game as said mechanics. Zelda doesn't ever use Din's Fire, but Link does, and he doesn't need it because dude's got more important staple weapons to pull from.

Any other characters that could/would work like that? Apply one and done moves/gimmicks?

Krystal's a funny case where it would be her staff she uses but Fox uses it for the vast majority of it's debut game. This is what happens when the second character gets demoted to damsel during development.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

TGA leaks are happening as seen with an Arkham related domain name suddenly popping up

New Batman game? That would be ok.
Today's going to be tick-tock, tick-tock with no sleep and election added. I'm so nervous about everything happening today.
Its going to be long for sure.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Isn't he a member on these forums?

Yes. He's not too active outside of Twitter these days, though.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Even so, it's a spectacular game, I'd recommend it to anyone with any love of Platforming.

I get that and I respect that, but there are so many great games that I guess I want a little bit more out of a Smash character I guess.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Madeline's not got too much in a base moveset, expecially if her climbing is out but she could make good use of the various level gimmicks to fill in her attacks.

Spoiler: Game spoilers

Not to mention she's now at ease with her dark side and they two can work together.

 

[ZeldaPlayer87]

well well well.... with all that kos-mos talk bout her being the 5th DLC character for smash, and then VGA being tomorrow, this just happened to me not long ago on youtube.

not sure why it says Mario Kart Tour tho... xD pic.twitter.com/I2cYQTYSZi

— Dmnslyr (@Demonslayerx8) December 12, 2019

Well this is interesting....

 

[Cutie Gwen]

well well well.... with all that kos-mos talk bout her being the 5th DLC character for smash, and then VGA being tomorrow, this just happened to me not long ago on youtube.

not sure why it says Mario Kart Tour tho... xD pic.twitter.com/I2cYQTYSZi

— Dmnslyr (@Demonslayerx8) December 12, 2019

Well this is interesting....

Assuming this is real this is exactly the kind of **** YungLink mentioned a while ago and I feel sad because of it

 

[Shroob]

well well well.... with all that kos-mos talk bout her being the 5th DLC character for smash, and then VGA being tomorrow, this just happened to me not long ago on youtube.

not sure why it says Mario Kart Tour tho... xD pic.twitter.com/I2cYQTYSZi

— Dmnslyr (@Demonslayerx8) December 12, 2019

Well this is interesting....

>Mario Kart Tour

>Copyright striking a Smash Mod


What kind of ****ing weirdass **** is this.

 

[Icedragonadam]

KOS-MOS is going to be a guest character in Mario Kart Tour. Well Namco did help with that game.

 

[Izanagi97]

>Mario Kart Tour

>Copyright striking a Smash Mod


What kind of ****ing weirdass **** is this.

Probably just the Nintendo Ninjas doing their usual smiting of fan content

 

[AmphabulouSnake]

Youtube's weird*** algorithm strikes again lmao