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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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Calamitas

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But why does Sakurai even owe an apology for Rex not making the cut? Its not like we were promised Rex and then it didn't happen. Sakurai could have not said anything about Rex at all
Not to mention that ARMS was released even earlier than Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and didn't even get an apology. Rex got more than he deserved plenty.
 

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But why does Sakurai even owe an apology for Rex not making the cut? Its not like we were promised Rex and then it didn't happen. Sakurai could have not said anything about Rex at all
I don't know, you'd have to ask the man himself. Personally I believe the actual reason is a lot more cynical but whatever.
 

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Not to mention that ARMS was released even earlier than Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and didn't even get an apology. Rex got more than he deserved plenty.
“Hey Rex! We’re sorry we couldn’t make you playable but we’ll make you a costume that comes for free when people buy the pass! Spring Man? All you get is an Assist Trophy and some spirits of your friends, bye.”

ARMS was done SO dirty ;-;
 

Calamitas

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“Hey Rex! We’re sorry we couldn’t make you playable but we’ll make you a costume that comes for free when people buy the pass! Spring Man? All you get is an Assist Trophy and some spirits of your friends, bye.”

ARMS was done SO dirty ;-;
Not to mention that 2 got three songs, whereas there isn't a single track from ARMS in the game (I think?). I admittedly never got ARMS (only got a Switch on Christmas 2017, and there were already enough other things for me to play there), but the main theme alone is already pretty great.
 

BlackInk

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“Hey Rex! We’re sorry we couldn’t make you playable but we’ll make you a costume that comes for free when people buy the pass! Spring Man? All you get is an Assist Trophy and some spirits of your friends, bye.”

ARMS was done SO dirty ;-;
Idk, a 25$ costume paywall sounds pretty bad.
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“Hey Rex! We’re sorry we couldn’t make you playable but we’ll make you a costume that comes for free when people buy the pass! Spring Man? All you get is an Assist Trophy and some spirits of your friends, bye.”

ARMS was done SO dirty ;-;
Spring man did get a Costume...and it's free
 

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“Hey Rex! We’re sorry we couldn’t make you playable but we’ll make you a costume that comes for free when people buy the pass! Spring Man? All you get is an Assist Trophy and some spirits of your friends, bye.”
...And a mii costume that doesn't require you to pay 25 dollars.
 

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So anything happen last night after the Verge deconfirmations?

Eh... That scene is honestly what kind of put me off of the series for a long while, and I'm still kind of marginal on it even now.

It's like seeing the Pokemon world as depicted in the more recent Pokedex entries... I no longer wish to be a part of that world.

Fun things should be fun, dammit.
I personally love it. Smash needs more villain representation and Reimu would be great!
 

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Quick question, how does painfully safe make the community reenergized when literally anything can be an unironic suggestion now
I think Nintendo going 1st/2nd party with the potential of upgrading assist trophies/spirits is anything but painfully safe. Especially when we have newer games like Astral Chain, Arms, Pokemon, Three Houses, maybe Bayo 3, etc to potentially draw from.

And of course Tropical Freeze and DIXIE
 
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Lamperouge

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I don't believe that I was owed an apology for Rex not making it in, but I do think that Sakurai taking the time to single him out like that means that he obviously holds XC2 in high regard.

Elma would still be an awesome Xenoblade rep but I'm feeling pretty good about Rex's chances for post-pass if upgrades are a thing.

The reason nobody complained about Rex being a 25 buck costume is because nobody likes Rex, if you liked XB2 he wasn't the reason why
I like Rex.

He's somewhat generic and leans hard into shounen troupes, sure, but he's still likeable and even fairly charismatic in the Japanese version.
 
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GoodGrief741

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As a Rex supporter, I think getting a personal apology, along with the implication that he's big enough to be considered an incentive to buy the FP, is more than enough. Does it make up for non-playability? Well, no, but it's much more than most characters end up getting.
 

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...And a mii costume that doesn't require you to pay 25 dollars.
I wonder how many people actually bought the pass just for the Rex costume and not for the fact that it includes all 5 of the Pass characters for 5 dollars cheaper.
 

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Not to mention that 2 got three songs, whereas there isn't a single track from ARMS in the game (I think?). I admittedly never got ARMS (only got a Switch on Christmas 2017, and there were already enough other things for me to play there), but the main theme alone is already pretty great.
Well if you guys want to keep playing this "who is the most oppressed victim" game then one can also bring up XB2 didn't even get an assist trophy... and I still fail to see how any of this leads to Elma.
 

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Were they expecting him to just flat out say "Yes, please look forward to Sora joining the battle in Super Smash Bros Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch"? This "disconfirmation" means nothing.

Also:

"I believe this same level of surprise should be expected for the other remaining DLC fighters, which would mean we can somewhat rule out the fighters sought after by community; Sora, Waluigi and Banjo-Kazooie."

This part didn't age well at all.
That quote indeed did not age well, but nor did the defense of Steve after community managers spoke out against his inclusion. I think when folks directly involved with a character speak one way or another so openly about a character it really does not bode well for their inclusion.
 
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Castlevania was done dirty. They didn't even include the Arcade version of Bloody Tears.
 

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I wonder how many people actually bought the pass just for the Rex costume and not for the fact that it includes all 5 of the Pass characters for 5 dollars cheaper.
None, but no matter how much one tries to spin it: having your costume for free in the base game beats having it locked behind a paywall for other content that you may or may not want.

Essentially the effective result is this:
You want the Rex mii costume but you don't want every character in the fighter's pass? Then you don't get the Rex' mii costume because you (hopefully) aren't willing to spend $25 on a costume.
 
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Dr. Jojo Phantasma

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We all know all Rex "fans" are actually Pyra fans who hope she would be controllable. :awesome:







It's a joke, don't kill me
 
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ARMS will be fine. So long as Nintendo doesn't ditch the franchise and tries to build upon the concept like they did with Splatoon, it can get a character at any time.

Rex is on a time crunch, but I think he has a while before the next real Xenoblade sequel.
 

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seeing how much divided most of us are..i already know that the next character reveal is going to end up being a saltfest 1 way or another lol
 

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Ok, but a lot of companies that would have a character considered for Smash are out of the running for FP5. Idk about you but I can’t really imagine a Rockstar IP character (unpopular in Japan), Idea Factory character (relatively obscure and some may not be CERO friendly), or some other indie character being FP5. And as much as I would LOVE Gunvolt (IntiCreates), I acknowledge that realistically he’s a pipe dream.
It's gonna be Bethesda

You heard it here first, folks!


During Chrom's reveal, I think even the Fire Emblem detractors gave him a pass because of how he was done dirty back in Smash 4's Robin/Lucina trailer.

Either that or because he exudes primal Matt Mercer energy.
It's probably because his inclusion was a little more understandable, since he was a fan request echo who's model was already in the game, so making him didn't take much time.
 
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ARMS will be fine. So long as Nintendo doesn't ditch the franchise and tries to build upon the concept like they did with Splatoon, it can get a character at any time.

Rex is on a time crunch, but I think he has a while before the next real Xenoblade sequel.
he is on a time crunch, but not Elma, as to not really spoil anything major, Xenoblade X ended on a sequel hook that if there is a sequel, it'll likely be a direct one and star Elma once again.

"This story never truly ends..."
 
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I can accept ARMS only getting an assist trophy, 2 costumes and spirits. It was in the same position as Xenoblade 2 and also a new IP on top of it.
What I cannot accept is the complete lack of music for it. I mean come on.
Come
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you guys mario was done so dirty

how DARE masahiro sakurai not include Pink Gold Peach

i believe i am owed a formal apology and at least one bagajillion dollars in reparations

im waiting nintendo
 

Night Gale

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Honestly, people are mad sleepin' on Astral Chain.

Platinum period is kind of being ignored.
Astral Chain isn't slept on that much tbqh.

It's because damn near most if not all of the games they develop are published by other companies. One Platinum game that hasn't been brought up that has Vanquish, Bayonetta, and Madworld characters and or content in it is Anarchy Reigns aka Max Anarchy. Btw that game was underrated af. Look at this s***.


I used Rin, Blacker Baron, and Sasha Ivanoff but there was a character who transformed into a f***ing spaceship for his dash and teammates could ride on top of him.
 
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During Chrom's reveal, I think even the Fire Emblem detractors gave him a pass because of how he was done dirty back in Smash 4's Robin/Lucina trailer.

Either that or because he exudes primal Matt Mercer energy.
I mean, Dark Samus and K. Rool were also revealed, so I don't think anyone was in a mood to complain that day anyway.
 

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seeing how much divided most of us are..i already know that the next character reveal is going to end up being a saltfest 1 way or another lol
Is it weird that that's 50% of why I'm personally so excited for the next reveal? Nothing defines self-centered first-world entitlement like a large group of people screaming online over the inclusion of a character to a game with a roster that's already 80+ haha.

I love speculation. I just love sitting back and laughing at the tidal waves of salt even more.
 

Lamperouge

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he is on a time crunch, but not Elma, as to not really spoil anything major, Xenoblade X ended on a sequel hook that if there is a sequel, it'll likely be a direct one and star Elma once again.

"This story never truly ends..."
inb4 XC3 turns out to be a direct sequel to XC2
 
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