New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Diddy Kong]

Double derpin'

 

[Johnknight1]

Kid Icarus: Uprising, an E10-rated game, has a sex scene

Kid Icarus: Uprising, an E10-rated game, has a sex scene

An E-10 rated game has a sex scene

Seems legit

This made me lulz. Metal Overlord = Lulz Overlord I suppose.

Well, seeing everyone drink Palutena's Kool-Aid, I have to say I'm disappointed.
Disappointed that people would let something as trivial as Medusa not being the Big Bad deter them from her and denounce her. All while flocking to Palutena as if she was their lord and saviour.

Note, I am not against Palutena, and if she happens to get in Sm4sh and Medusa doesn't, oh well. But still, to flock to Palutena is not unlike the FE fanboys flocking to various female characters on different reasonings. (i.e. flocking back to Caeda when Liz was revealed to not be a lord, then flocking back to Liz when she was revealed to use axes and offensive magic).

I still don't see any Kid Icarus character not named Pit as too likely. I've stated all along I feel Pit as the only Kid Icarus "representative" is the most likely scenario.

Also, anyone else wanna help me boo the things that are causing the Smash Boards issues=??? BOO!!!!

 

[Weavel]

Yes, this has been suggested a lot of times before. And also by me. The beauty lies in the simplicity.



Yes, you like the playstyle more than the character mostly. Which is why I want to keep Sheik's playstyle in at all cost with Impa. I could easily suggest many other Zelda characters instead of her, and Sheik would still be gone. Then again, I don't like any other Zelda character as much as Impa so that solves a lot of stuff.

I think Impa's appearance in SSB4 would be appropriate as I stated and you did in the past apparently.

Tagteam.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

She can Tagteam with Toon Zelda. Regular Zelda can stick with Sheik. Everybody wins. No cuts, two more characters. Problem solved.

 

[Linkshot]

She can Tagteam with Toon Zelda. Regular Zelda can stick with Sheik. Everybody wins. No cuts, two more characters. Problem solved.

What no

If we have Toon Zelda she must tagteam with Tetra.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If it wasn't for Anthony I'd support a Metroid Hunter as well perhaps. At least they'd be far more unique than Dark Samus, I give you that.

I'd rather have Impa separate than tagged with another Zelda honestly. Though if it means full tagteam business I'm all for it. But I don't want 2 Zeldas. :/

 

[Johnknight1]

If Toad still isn't playable in Smash 4.... do you have any idea how that will make me feel inside? Furious! Outraged! Sick with anger! Forcing me to not play as Toad after I waited over 10 years.

That's how I felt since seeing the opening of Melee with Samurai Goroh and Ridley.

Regardless, all of them will eventually be playable in a future smash bros game if the series continues, whether it's the forthcoming Smash 4/5 (since we are getting two smash games), Smash 15, or Smash 50.

Also, Toon Zelda wouldn't need Toon Tetra... if Toon Zelda was a late add-on (clone?).

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Also, anyone else wanna help me boo the things that are causing the Smash Boards issues=??? BOO!!!!

I'll second that.

*clears throat*

Boo.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Diddy should've been in the Melee opening. Then it'd be perfect. Also, Pichu was in there, but Mewtwo wasn't. Always found that weird.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

What no

If we have Toon Zelda she must tagteam with Tetra.

Nope. Tetra never had a chance. It's better than Toon Sheik, atleast. Toon Sheik was planned. So instead we get another Sheikah. Issue solved realistically. No fake characters added.

@Diddy: Then Impa stays separate. She won't replace Sheik at all. Sakurai won't remove a character he explicitly likes. Only character she has any ghost of a chance of replacing is Toon Sheik. And only technically doing that at best.

 

[Diddy Kong]

You know, I'll just keep on saying I want Impa in. The details can be left to Sakurai. But I gotta say though again, I wouldn't mind if it'd cost us Sheik no I wouldn't.

Then again, teacher vs pupil is always cool in a fighting game. Even though generations are in between them technically.

 

[Johnknight1]

I'll second that.

*clears throat*

Boo.

BOOOOOOO!!!!!

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man

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Diddy should've been in the Melee opening. Then it'd be perfect. Also, Pichu was in there, but Mewtwo wasn't. Always found that weird.

I think the sale of Rare to Microsoft kept Diddy Kong out of Melee in basically all forms, trophies aside. The "what the heck is going on?" legal factor was happening then. I remember some people felt Nintendo could lose anything related to Donkey Kong that didn't come before Donkey Kong Country!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

It'll never cost us Sheik regardless. Just won't happen. Separate character, teamed with TOON Zelda. Both are feasible options that she has a chance of.

That's just how it is. Hell, I don't even expect Impa anyway. Too much of a stretch at this point.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Rare did try to get the rights of everything they created in DKC though, Diddy included. It's weird that K.Rool and Dixie however did get a trophy in Melee. And that we had DKC-related stages and music, and even an item straight from Golden Eye, the Cloaking Device (I MISS THAT ****ING THING MAN!). So yes, Diddy not being there is really strange.

How come Impa is too much of a stretch? She's from the most recent Zelda game, and the only potential character that isn't a one off. Besides, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf and heck even Adult Link also where not in Majora's Mask, the most recent Zelda game at the time of Melee. How come Impa is too much of a stretch? She's the best choice imo.

 

[Johnknight1]

Sheik/Impa debate is over. Shut up about it. Now. And the word "representation" is banned now in regard to playable characters.

To quote Rick Grimes, "this isn't a democracy anymore."

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It's a knighttatership!

@ Diddy Kong
I know, and many legal experts thought they would get it. I think Diddy Kong was such an obvious omission that Sakurai just decided not to feature him in Melee in any way, shape, or form, since we would have expected Diddy Kong to be playable in Melee if Rare was still unquestionably a Nintendo 1st/2nd party back then.

Also, the Cloaking Device needs to return. Heck, any weapon from Golden Eye 007 would be awesome in smash.

 

[Diddy Kong]

So much expected that he was just excluded all over? Seems legit.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

And that we had DKC-related stages and music, and even an item straight from Golden Eye, the Cloaking Device (I MISS THAT ****ING THING MAN!).

I know that feel. Also, Nintendo cleverly hopped around how they took that item by saying it was a Smash Bros. original like the Party Ball or the Bumper. There was an Event Match where you fought Fox and Falco whilst they were invisible, and at the beginning Slippy comes over the comm system saying, "How do you guys like the Cloaking Device I invented?"

So, either they're "separate items" or Slippy designs gadgets for James Bond.

It's probably the second thing.

 

[Johnknight1]

Hey, I think my theory makes sense. Sakurai was unsure since crap had gone down with Rare, which sucks.

I also have a feeling Sakurai may have either liked the possibility of Banjo being playable or loved a Banjo game. Those two Banjo games seem like the type of platformer Sakurai would enjoy. They remind me of the Kirby series a little bit in style and influence.

Still, at least we know Sakurai liked Golden Eye. Melee proves that.

It would be totally awesome to get a stage from Golden Eye in Smash. That game was AMAZING!

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The movie was predictable.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Rare was featured in the credits though in Melee.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

How come Impa is too much of a stretch? She's from the most recent Zelda game, and the only potential character that isn't a one off. Besides, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf and heck even Adult Link also where not in Majora's Mask, the most recent Zelda game at the time of Melee. How come Impa is too much of a stretch? She's the best choice imo.

Tingle is more potential to Sakurai than her. She barely got a Sticker, Diddy. Sakurai just doesn't care much about her at all. Tingle gets a Trophy, Stage Element, AND Assist Trophy, plus a Sticker. It's pretty clear who he favors more. Oh, and Sheik is of higher priority to him. Impa doesn't even come close.

She's far from the best choice. She barely did anything in two games. Tingle already does more. He's also in just as many games, and actually does stuff via gameplay. Not a storyline. If not obvious by now, Sakurai shows little caring for the storyline. Hell, the only thing notable with it is the TROPHIES. And even those barely mention the secondary character.

She's not a main character at all, either. Sheik IS. That's why she's in and Impa is not.

But thee's one thing you keep forgetting; One noteworthy appearance when all the rest are crap does nothing but hurt her chances. Sakurai looks at all the games when deciding who to play as. If he really wanted Impa, she would've been in by now. I can apply this to Toad, who has just as much potential. Except he even treats him as more important.

Just face it, Impa has pretty much nothing going for her. Not even enough popularity.

 

[Johnknight1]

Rare was featured in the credits though in Melee.

Rare was still a Nintendo 2nd party. The company wasn't officially sold/bought out by Rare until 2002-2003. Melee came out in late 2001, when word first came around and rumors started circulating about Rare no longer being involved in Nintendo's future plans.

 

[yani]

Rare did try to get the rights of everything they created in DKC though, Diddy included. It's weird that K.Rool and Dixie however did get a trophy in Melee. And that we had DKC-related stages and music, and even an item straight from Golden Eye, the Cloaking Device (I MISS THAT ****ING THING MAN!). So yes, Diddy not being there is really strange.

My guess is Diddy was going to be playable but once the buyout occurred everything in the game for him was scrapped

 

[Diddy Kong]

That's cause her most prominent role is from a pretty recent game. By that logic, you'd say Sakurai consideres Impaz to be more important than the real thing? I don't think so. Trophies aren't as selected as you say. And in Brawl especially they aren't. All trophies are literally taken from the latest games except from just a few.

Squitter from DKC2 was a pleasant exception for example.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That's cause her most prominent role is from a pretty recent game. By that logic, you'd say Sakurai consideres Impaz to be more important than the real thing? I don't think so. Trophies aren't as selected as you say. And in Brawl especially they aren't. All trophies are literally taken from the latest games except from just a few.

The designs aren't the point. It's the characters he chooses to be trophified. Also, Impaz is a separate character as is. She's probably similar to Impa, but... that's it. There is no "real thing". They're separate people. And how much caring did he show towards Impaz anyway? Any at all? You're really just further proving that Impa isn't important to him.

At best she could get a Trophy this time. You really shouldn't expect anything better. It's not fun being disappointed.

 

[Johnknight1]

My theory is that Sakurai had Diddy Kong on his short list, and the Rare rumors/word from heads of Nintendo actually warned Sakurai against it. Perhaps Diddy Kong was also in development at some point.

Maybe this opened up a door for the Ice Climbers to get in the game (maybe Mr. Game and Watch), and for Sakurai to try out other ideas/beta versions of various retro characters (Bubbles, the Balloon Fighter, the Urban Champion, Mach Rider). Heck, this might have even lead to the idea of Marth and Fire Emblem being in smash as a late addition.

This may have ultimately opened up enough time to add the Melee newcomer clones (Dr. Mario, Ganondorf, Young Link, Falco, Roy) in.

In the end, though, this is just a fun theory. I dunno if it's true, but it's an awesome thing to think of!

 

[yani]

My theory is that Sakurai had Diddy Kong on his short list, and the Rare rumors/word from heads of Nintendo actually warned Sakurai against it. Perhaps Diddy Kong was also in development at some point.

Yup! My guess is even though Diddy could have been in at the time, if Rare ended up keeping him, he'd be cut for Brawl, which equals HUGE RAGE :fuuu:

 

[augustoflores]

Rumor: Major Wii U eShop Games Leak Includes World of Warcraft, Counter-Strike, And Plenty More

 

[Diddy Kong]

You bet she gets a trophy, all playable characters get trophies in anyway.

Impaz literally is a descendant of Impa, or at least named after her or some kind of stuff. Impa was in fact noted on her trophy, and I think also on one of Zelda's trophies in Melee in a way that she escaped from Hyrule Castle thanks to Impa. So she's not forgotten at all.

She's part of the 7 Sages, and none of those got trophies either. Except for of coarse Zelda.

And yes Diddy should've been in Melee, then it would indeed forever be the best game ever. Period.

 

[augustoflores]

hmmm... she's only a sage in the adult timeline... throughout the course of link's timetravel, ganondorf kills the sages, which is why link finds the spiritual successors to them.

 

[Johnknight1]

Yup! My guess is even though Diddy could have been in at the time, if Rare ended up keeping him, he'd be cut for Brawl, which equals HUGE RAGE :fuuu:

Agreed.

Also, the forthcoming Counter-Strike on the Wii U (or 3DS) sounds like a fun idea. I play Counter-Strike on a weekly basis! A Tony Hawk game featuring the best of the first 8 games in the series sounds cool, too, as would (ANOTHER!?!?!?) Golden Eye remake. NFL Blitz and a Mario Strikers game sound like a nice added bonus.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

You bet she gets a trophy, all playable characters get trophies in anyway.

Don't be a smartass.

Impaz literally is a descendant of Impa, or at least named after her or some kind of stuff. Impa was in fact noted on her trophy, and I think also on one of Zelda's trophies in Melee in a way that she escaped from Hyrule Castle thanks to Impa. So she's not forgotten at all.

She still didn't get a Trophy. Thus, only Impa got mentioned. Notice a problem here?

She's part of the 7 Sages, and none of those got trophies either. Except for of coarse Zelda.

Sounds like he doesn't care about bit players then, right?

 

[Johnknight1]

SHHH!!!! HYPER! Don't respond to anything involving Impa! If you stop responding, we stop talking/hearing about it.

Seriously Diddy Kong, go open a "Impa" thread on the Smash 4 Back Room to let all your Impa love hormones that block your intelligence out!

 

[Diddy Kong]

Well, technically:

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Impa could create a timeline split for Skyward Sword as well. And seeing she could appear in the same time as both young and old, who says she cannot appear in another timeline? Possibly even OOT as a midaged woman in between SS's young and old Impa? She could very well be the next Ganon in this regard if they want to.

 

[augustoflores]

that makes no sense.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Of coarse it does. Where the hell does Ganon keep coming from anyway? At least

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Impa could have Time Portals and stuff like that Also, she's guarding the Triforce in the ancient past of Skyward Sword, yet she disappears right after you meet her again in the normal time? It's a cliffhanger man. She ain't dead man.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ august
More reasons to move on and not comment on it.

Anyways, I saw the greatest combo in Melee this Saturday. On Corneria I watched a match and someone got hit by Captain Falcon's forward Smash into a Arwing, into a laser from said Arwing, into a laser from a far away Arwing into the head of the ship, into an Arwing laser into the Grey Fox's super laser! IT WAS AWESOME!

 

[augustoflores]

@john... ~~i... haaavvvveee tooooo....~~

ganondorf comes from the gerudos as per the 100 years of female, 1 male arrives to rule as king. he was birthed by the twinrova.

he keeps coming because he is immortal. he is immortal because he willed it through the triforce of power alone.

vv... i don't have nintendo video... i feel so left out... vv

 

[Pieman0920]

Palutena short is up on Nintendo video. I guess Palutena has the power to make cages just come out of nothing, though perhaps it only works on mutant carrots, and thus may not be applicable to Smash.

 

[Johnknight1]

Ganondorf needs to be immortal again and not a piece of crap like in Brawl EVER AGAIN!

Also, give him the sword already! Parts/most/all of Ganondorf's old style (with new moves) can go to a new character, preferably a newcomer from the F-Zero franchise, preferably Samurai Goroh with a katana!

 

[Deleted member]

So wait, if Ganondorf was the last male Gerudo that we know about, and he keeps coming back, does that mean that another male Gerudo cannot exist, or do they still happen despite Ganondorf's existance?