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Not necessarily. Licensing issues can mean a lot of different things from a company perspective. After all, not every subsidiary of Nintendo has to let Sakurai use their material and content.May I bring up the NINTENDO character Sakurai tried to add in Brawl, but had LISCENSING ISSUES. (Remember, Sakurai considers Geno a Mario character)
You all laugh at Geno, but that could have very well been him~
Geno getting in is nothing but good. People will make giant cults regardless of Geno's playablity status.Geno would be bad getting in because then we will suddenly have people thinking if they can amass giant cults for obscure characters that they will be forced to be added in the next Smash Bros.
This is true, but can you think of a character who fits that bill didn't have any content in Brawl? Starfy most definitely did.Not necessarily. Licensing issues can mean a lot of different things from a company perspective. After all, not every subsidiary of Nintendo has to let Sakurai use their material and content.
Heck, it could've even been Starfy because of TOSE. They might not have wanted him in until he went international(which I'm sure was planned at the time, since The Legendary Starfy came out the year after Brawl). Who knows.Not necessarily. Licensing issues can mean a lot of different things from a company perspective. After all, not every subsidiary of Nintendo has to let Sakurai use their material and content.
Nah. No other "cult" has been nearly that big.Geno would be bad getting in because then we will suddenly have people thinking if they can amass giant cults for obscure characters that they will be forced to be added in the next Smash Bros.
I was comparing the demand of Poison to appear in a SF game to Geno's demand to appear in Smash. The only two differences are that Geno is owned by Square and nobody has tried to bombard Sakurai's twitter with Geno requests.Why was Poison brought up?
Or, he retreated in order to strategize for the next attempt. Realistically, it may have taken too long for him to be included in time.Oh, and I honestly do believe that character was Geno, which means, he's PROBABLY not showing up in Smash, since Sakurai clearly hit a wall with him during Brawl. How sad.
Stupid Geno, he was not even the best character in that game. Mallow 4 life!Oh, and I honestly do believe that character was Geno, which means, he's PROBABLY not showing up in Smash, since Sakurai clearly hit a wall with him during Brawl. How sad.
Yeah, who knows. It kind of reminds of how with Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 Nitsuma wanted to add a Monster Hunter character into the game, but the subsidiary within Capcom that holds the rights to the franchise said "nope".Heck, it could've even been Starfy because of TOSE. They might not have wanted him in until he went international(which I'm sure was planned at the time, since The Legendary Starfy came out the year after Brawl). Who knows.
We can dream, we can dream. I certainly HOPE that's what happened.Or, he retreated in order to strategize for the next attempt. Realistically, it may have taken too long for him to be included in time.
Never underestimate the love for a character. Sometimes, it's just that simple.I still don't get why for Geno. He is both insignificant to Super Mario and Square-Enix. Heck, Square-Enix made four more games with Mario characters in it after Super Mario RPG, and two of them even referenced Super Mario RPG (remix of Mushroom Kingdom Super Mario RPG theme), yet neither Geno or Mallow appeared in any of them. Heck, up until Brawl's announcement Geno was no more popular than Mallow was. Never underestimate the power of the bandwagon and mob mentality.
Meta Ridley 4 Smash!Meta Ridley 4 Smash!Meta Ridley 4 Smash!Meta Ridley 4 Smash!Meta Ridley 4 Smash!Meta Ridley 4 Smash!May I bring up the NINTENDO character Sakurai tried to add in Brawl, but had LISCENSING ISSUES. (Remember, Sakurai considers Geno a Mario character)
You all laugh at Geno, but that could have very well been him~
And this Ridley **** is annoying me.
I did not say it was Starfy I just responded "yeah, who knows". My point was that licensing issues do not necessarily need to involve third party stakeholders.Oh, but Staaaaar, Starfy WAS IN BRAWL, you silly raptor.
That's right, before the Geno cult took over Mallow reigned supreme!!! Now he has become the second banana. Smh.I still don't get why for Geno. He is both insignificant to Super Mario and Square-Enix. Heck, Square-Enix made four more games with Mario characters in it after Super Mario RPG, and two of them even referenced Super Mario RPG (remix of Mushroom Kingdom Super Mario RPG theme), yet neither Geno or Mallow appeared in any of them. Heck, up until Brawl's announcement Geno was no more popular than Mallow was. Never underestimate the power of the bandwagon and mob mentality.
Besides Geno, third parties don't interest me. Well, smaller franchises don't either.Square Enix reps don't really interest me at all, dunno why
The thing is that Geno bandwagon pretty much exploded out of nowhere and pretty much collapsed after Brawl was released too. Now, people want Toad, Bowser Jr., Paper Mario, and even Waluigi more than Geno.People don't need a REASON to simply like a character Chrono.
Well, they do. He's cool.
Meh, I don't know about that. There are still a lot of people around here who like Geno, it's not completely collapsed.The thing is that Geno bandwagon pretty much exploded out of nowhere and pretty much collapsed after Brawl was released too. Now, people want Toad, Bowser Jr., Paper Mario, and even Waluigi more than Geno.
Well I KNOW THAAAAT.My point was that licensing issues do not necessarily need to involve third party stakeholders.
Yes. I find it funny when I posted polls for a Mario newcomer during pre-Brawl (after Brawl's announcement), Geno was one of the highest ranked Mario characters in the poll, yet when I post Mario newcomer polls now, he gets barely any requests. That is a collapse right there.Collapse, schmallapse. It doesn't need to be constantly active. What? You think they keep begging for the character every moment?
Shut up, Star. I'm trying to beat S&P on normal. Bet YOU couldn't even do that.Yessssh. See Oasis, who is the Strongest now?
Who said I didn't go back and do it? You just asked me about my first time.Shut up, Star. I'm trying to beat S&P on normal. Bet YOU couldn't even do that.
I think even David Koresh would be jelly.Isn't Fatmanonice to blame for the Geno cult? And yet, we still love him dearly.
From Fatmanonice on Smashboards:Isn't Fatmanonice to blame for the Geno cult? And yet, we still love him dearly.
My guess is that people were starting to change from what they wanted to what they're expecting. Look what happened to SSBF.Yes. I find it funny when I posted polls for a Mario newcomer during pre-Brawl (after Brawl's announcement), Geno was one of the highest ranked Mario characters in the poll, yet when I post Mario newcomer polls now, he gets barely any requests. That is a collapse right there.
He's a beautiful man.From Fatmanonice on Smashboards:
I agree, it isn't enough which is why I hope to expand the idea to other sites. Back in 2006, I started Operation: Star of Heaven. Basically it was a campaign to get Geno in Brawl. It started on Nsider where me and about 10 other Geno fans created a 26 page portfolio (both in English and Japanese) supporting Geno's inclusion into Brawl. I then went to Nintendo's HQ in Kyoto and tried to drop it off but a security guard turned me away so I had to send it when I was in Tokyo. After I came back, I made "bases" in other forums to rally support. I made one here, on IGN, on Gamespot, and on Gamefaqs and support for Geno grew from there.
He's beating every Mario character but Toad an Juior on my poll, and is tied with PM atm. He's beaten him in the past, I do believe.My guess is that people were starting to change from what they wanted to what they're expecting. Look what happened to SSBF.