[COLLAPSE="Large post"]Didn't Sakurai say that Sukapon would never appear in a Super Smash Bros. game? I believe that was the case, which if so, is a huge shame as I think along with a few others here that he would fit well as a character.
I don't really care that the Gamecube controller is no longer able to be supported. Quite frankly, I could care less about it as I never used it in Brawl or any of my Wii games anyway.
@tri climbe (#366): Please don't bold all your words. It makes it hard to read.
@Mario_And_Sonic_Guy (#381): This is great for the Wii-U/Classic Controller set-up, thought I do question why the Wii Remote + Nunchuck and Wii Remote only combination were thrown out of the way. Anyway, I would love this format since I plan to play the next game with either Classic Controller or Wii-U.
Also, I think the touchscreen can be used, just not really in combat. During the game if you're holding the Wii-U controller, during the match, it displays the stats of how many KOs you made, how many KOs you've received, and your score in the game so far. It won't inter fear with the gameplay, but you'll know what's going on without it taking up game room space.
While selecting characters, the player with the Wii-U controller can select their characters and the stage from the touchscreen with the rest having to look at the TV. Also, if he's playing alone and someone wants to watch TV, the game will automatically stream to the touchscreen and you can play it, as seen in the E3 2011 trailer.
@Fatamanonice (#384): Add
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor to the list.
Two things: I don't think lack of games is the absolute barrier to new characters form said series, as I still think we stand a good chance of getting a second rep from F-zero, although you do have a point there with the lack of rep.
I would also make sure to consider that both SSB4 games are completely different. As such, we need to take into consideration of what platform the games are released in. This is why I think Golden Sun characters are likely to not be in the Wii-U version unless we transfer it from the 3DS version if even that.
@Eternal Yoshi (#385): I like this idea a lot. It's possible that it'll happen anyway, as I noticed the movesets consistently getting more complex. Better then my idea, that's for sure (Which was to expand the B-Up/Down/Side movement by going diagonally, which now I think about it, is not such a great idea).
crawlshots said:
No one's mentioned Bomberman. Anyone think he's a feasible addition? He's got several titles with Nintendo... and he's got bombs.
It's certainly possible that he can get in the game, just not very likely. He was rumored for SSBB, so we'll see on that.
Anth0ny said:
With Wii U, we will almost certainly have DLC characters, DLC stages, DLC costumes and possibly DLC music.
If there's one game in the world that could have a near infinite amount of DLC, it's Smash Bros.
Like Mic said, I don't think we're going to see a huge flood of this. To be honest, I really don't see Nintendo quickly releasing DLC before many people gets a chance to play the game and unlock it's contents, plus DLC is best when it's done later on.
In response to Mario_And_Sonic_Guy:
Mario_And_Sonic_Guy said:
Leon is known for chasing Falco, which does make him Falco's rival. And unlike Waluigi (who is deliberately a spin-off character), Leon has appeared in mainstream titles. I'm pretty sure that he'd operate differently from the other Star Fox characters.
True that he's a mainstream character, but I don't see how he would fit in as a mainstream character. It might be me not familiar with Star Fox too much, but I really would like to see some examples of Leon being original if he does become playable in Smash Bros.
Mario_And_Sonic_Guy said:
Bubbles and Eggplant Man are relatively fillers, but they do represent the classic Clu Clu Land and Wrecking Crew titles, both of which were developed by Nintendo. If R.O.B. could be made into a fighter, what would stop those two from joining the fray.
My apologies for misinterperating what characters they are. Now as for these two:
Eggplant Man is a common enemy from two games (One of which is Japan only) and made absolutely no appearance in Super Smash Bros. Brawl whatsoever (Only appeared in Melee as a trophy). He made no other appearance aside from a few cameo in other game. You could argue that Ice Climbers haven't made many appearances as well and R.O.B. as well, but they at least played as the main protagonists in their respective games. Eggplant Man stands almost no chance of getting into the next Smash.
Now Bubbles is slightly more likely, but I can't really see him work more then as an Assist Trophy, but he could be entered under similar conditions like Ice Climbers. In the chance that we get one Smash per generation after this game, he probably won't make an appearance for quite a few games.
Mario_And_Sonic_Guy said:
People have complained about me not including Takamaru, so something has been telling me that he's quite popular in Japan. I wouldn't know though, since he's a Japan-only character.
It's not that Takamaru is impossible or a bad addition since I think he would be kind of neat to see, just not very likely to come.
Mario_And_Sonic_Guy said:
3rd parties, that has been tricky. I'd like to see Square Enix be involved, since the company did make some interesting Nintendo titles, such as the most recent Mario Sports Mix. Add the fact that the company also released popular Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest titles onto the DS. Anyway, Smash Bros. is primarily about the Nintendo titles, so it's pretty obvious that the 3rd party list would be limited to less than 5 characters.
Me too, but the fact is that it's just not likely to happen. Nintendo is much more likely to go for someone that has been supporting them in one way or another then a company that deserted them for an entire generation. Even so, your choices for Square Enix rep are not very good and if any come, it will be just one.
I will agree with you on one thing, we shouldn't expect more then four third-party characters, if we even get that much.
Mario_And_Sonic_Guy said:
To finish up, I was only trying to make a sensible roster, while not overflowing the playable character amounts with spin-off exclusive characters (Waluigi comes to mind). Without the 3rd parties, the roster adds up to 46 characters when transformations are excluded; 51 when transformations are included.
Basically, the roster probably won't be larger than 55 characters.
Fair enough, I see where you're coming from in here and I do agree that anything more then 55 characters is unrealistic.
BirthNote said:
Why not just make that Mario's DownB? It can be new and old in the sense that it could give him a hop as well as have a good knockback, and still be a spin attack. I imagine that it replaces FLUDD, mainly because this game is likely to have a Galaxy focus. And, like Fox's and ZS Samus's, this DownB can be used for more than attacking; it can aid in recovery by being a third jump.
FLUDD can still be used in an efficient way if the water actually damaged the character.
Birthnote said:
That gives me an idea: Instead of the Galaxy spin, he could do the Tanooki tailspin, in which he suddenly has the suit while spinning, and once that move finishes, the suit disappears. And, since the suit has flight properties, the spin will give him a slight hop when used in midair!
This idea is better then the Galaxy spin, as it doesn't make Luigi more of a clone.
UltiMario said:
Posted this in the WiiU thread, but I guess I'll do it here too:
http://www.petitiononline.com/gcofwiiu/petition.html
Had to be done eventually.
I'd enjoy being able to have more than 2 WiiUs within one building and being able to play Smash4, thanks. That and be able to still play Melee and all the really good games like Mario Party 5 or Double Dash and **** that I still play to this day.
Not going to work. Gamecube compatibility should be the least of our worries for the next console anyway, so the chances of them reconsidering this is incredibly poor.
Majora_787 said:
- EARN CHARACTERS. In Melee, if you wanted to earn characters the "easy way", you had to BS your way through 1,000 matches of versus mode and defeat all of them. Or, you could complete a unique and sometimes difficult challenge to encounter the fighter. In Brawl? 450 matches, and you get everybody. OR go through the tedious story mode. OR do ridiculously easy tasks, like "reflect 10 projectiles". -_-
This. I was disappointed to find out that it took me less then a week to have access to all characters. I think they should increase the limit of getting the final character to 2,000 matches or remove the criteria altogether and force us to use other criteria's.
Majora_787 said:
- DLC. Of SOME nature.
- Character costumes or retextures, not JUST recolors. That got old.
- I would love to see DLC. This is why I made mention of it in the first place and I'm sure it's going to be more then just a way for Nintendo to rob consumers of their money.
- This would also be great. I think Dr. Mario should return as an alt. for Mario, it makes perfect sense for him to do so.[/COLLAPSE]