[Nesu] It's so deserted here I could find Criminal Caterpillars. (Post here if you're cool)

[ToferTheHuman]

There is nothing about the board that needs one though.
Nothing is happening anywhere besides the social and having a mod is not really going to change it.

 

[Nido]

Snake

I lost quite a lot of respect for you Tikao

 

[Luco]

I know... but then if nothing else, the representation would be great. I dunno... Ah well...

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Representation of that?
The boards or being a mod?

A lot of people want to be a mod, they get nice skins.

 

[Luco]

Repping the ness boards. I always feel better when I make an argument, then the mod from my board comes along and agrees with me. Yea I know mods don't have to be that knowledgeable and they can still be wrong but you know what i mean right?

 

[Tikao]

I lost quite a lot of respect for you Tikao

germany is snake-land ... it's not like i'll instand main him or second main him, i'll just try to play some characters, i have never played
hmm these should be link, samus, falco, snake, IC, Olimar

don't wanna play link and samus ... i'm already playing jiggz and Lucas for low-tier

don't wanna play IC because of cheap-chaingrabs ... yeah, there not like easy, but i hate them ... grab-thirsty littly *****es ._.

and don't wanna play Olimar because ... well, it's Olimar


so snake and Falco, there are snakes and falcos in my area, so i could learn of them ... but i'll main Ness, don't worry

 

[yoshi8984]

So, I was just brawling my friend, he went Lucas... My god, that F-Smash is REALLY annoying. -__-
Why couldn't Ness' F-Smash be like that xD

 

[Eagleye893]

Because if Ness' Fsmash was good, then his ground game would be ungodly. SO MANY DTILT FSMASH's!!! OHMG!!!

Reasons why Ness isn't too good in this game:

He doesn't have reliable strings. He has good move-strings, but most characters have either the range or the speed to prevent that string (also DI)
He's not fast enough. He can't rush after someone he pushes out.
Too little room for error. The fact that has short range (only fair is really big, UAir is big but not left-to-right, which is where ness is lacking), can be grab-released by most of the cast for safe damage, and has odd lag with half of his moves make it difficult to keep going in.
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He's got a lot of potential, but a couple of minor things just keep him from being above average.

 

[yoshi8984]

Yeah, I can see the Grab Release and lag on his moves a somewhat big issue, but his smashes also have good range lol
Speed I never really see an issue with any character (unless you're Jiggs, Luigi or Ivysaur LOL), to me, I don't care much for ground speed; air speed is what counts for me since most of my mains were meant for the air, and Ness has average air speed, which is good enough for me. =P
I think Ness is one of the few characters with reliable move strings compared to the rest of the cast with Brawl's hitstun. =P

 

[R e d X]

Because if Ness' Fsmash was good, then his ground game would be ungodly. SO MANY DTILT FSMASH's!!! OHMG!!!

Reasons why Ness isn't too good in this game:

He doesn't have reliable strings. He has good move-strings, but most characters have either the range or the speed to prevent that string (also DI)
He's not fast enough. He can't rush after someone he pushes out.
Too little room for error. The fact that has short range (only fair is really big, UAir is big but not left-to-right, which is where ness is lacking), can be grab-released by most of the cast for safe damage, and has odd lag with half of his moves make it difficult to keep going in.
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He's got a lot of potential, but a couple of minor things just keep him from being above average.

I find this interesting, cause I share a lot of the same viewpoint on why Ness is only mediocre and most of these reasons aren't just the typically stated GR + recovery issues. I feel like if each of these were improved even just a little (plus a better recovery haha), Ness would be exponentially better.

 

[Jamwa]

I find that Ness, albeit those points, is mainly a worse character because once he secures a stock lead, he cannot camp or run away & space.
his PKF is punishable unlike Lucas'

also your point on his strings being very di-able is soooooo annoying, and the lag on his moves slows him down a huge amount
his SH is awkward for me because although you can fit 2 aerials in one SH, you cant really SH airdodge -> a punish because you land too slowly.

 

[Kokomaniac]

I find that Ness, albeit those points, is mainly a worse character because once he secures a stock lead, he cannot camp or run away & space.
his PKF is punishable unlike Lucas'

also your point on his strings being very di-able is soooooo annoying, but and the lag on his moves slows him down a huge amount

This times a million.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Repping the ness boards. I always feel better when I make an argument, then the mod from my board comes along and agrees with me. Yea I know mods don't have to be that knowledgeable and they can still be wrong but you know what i mean right?

what are you talking about, mod are perfect; geez

 

[Luco]

Sup aero. I was gonna ask for a mod but I think i'd get lynch mobbed if I did. @.@

 

[Eagleye893]

What's a mod?

And WHY CAN'T SMASH4 COME OUT QUICKER?!?!? I miss smash and want a reason to play it again.

 

[Jamwa]

What's a mod?

And WHY CAN'T SMASH4 COME OUT QUICKER?!?!? I miss smash and want a reason to play it again.

play it for fun? lol
but dont play lol play dota

 

[Luco]

I need to wait because as much as I love and adore Brawl, smash 4 may be my only chance to be a big shot on the scene. I will do whatever it takes to compete internationally in that game and I want to do the same with Brawl.

Can't afford to miss this one, guys!

 

[Flame Hyenard]

Anyone who has a DeviantArt account : next Saturday there will be an online Brawl tourney hosted by one of the admins of SSBWiki (formerly SmashWikia). Here's the link for more informations, in case one wants to participate : http://ssbbrawlers.deviantart.com/art/The-Snow-Brawl-Win-a-potential-year-premium-352706222

All I'm hoping is that the tourney will be a round robin one, because I get to brawl everybody without being eliminated and having to do friendlies. x)

 

[Nido]

Reasons I won't do that.

1. Aus wifi is terrible
2. MK becomes hard -2 on wifi
3. MKs everywhere

@Jamwa why is Dota so superior?

 

[Flame Hyenard]

I went to most of these tourneys, and there are only a handful of people (even then, they can be defeated). But it's your choice

 

[Nido]

Also timezones :/
No one ever factors in Australia

 

[Kokomaniac]

Reasons I won't do that.

1. Aus wifi is terrible
2. MK becomes hard -2 on wifi
3. MKs everywhere

@Jamwa why is Dota so superior?

League of legends community is literally unbearable unless you're playing ranked. You will find mind numbingly stupid people in lol

 

[yoshi8984]

I would join, but I have a bandwidth limit and this month idk if we'll make it by then. -__-
Stupid brother used up 30 FREAKING GB one day downloading Digimon and Naruto. I was like "AIN'T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR DAT"

 

[Tikao]

well I'm back ... and i played Ness only xD ... no snake, no Falco ... and i got bracket-****ed ... first a dk-main (i don't have ANY dk MU-experience) and then, a d³-main (same goes here xD) ... lost 2:1 against the dk, very close, last hit situation ... and against d³ 2:0 because of a ****ing missclick D: ... delfino, me beeing on a platform, d³ diagonal under this platform ... platform-drop -> fastfalled DAIR ;_; ... do you know bair brawl? ... i would've won xD ... yeah 131984 frames of landing lag, and then, he simply charged a fsmash ... couldn't do anything ... stupid game, but also last hit situations ... I'm getting better
btw. haven't recorded anything xD ... and delfino is awesome

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Reasons I won't do that.

1. Aus wifi is terrible
2. MK becomes hard -2 on wifi
3. MKs everywhere

@Jamwa why is Dota so superior?

2. is funny and cute at the same time.

 

[Jamwa]

Also I've gone from LoL to DotA and LoL is so easy. Teamwork isn't as important so if you're a good player you do better for yourself.

ALSO YOU CANT DENY CREEPS WTF farming is so easy trinity force 5 mins every game so ez omg

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I really enjoy league. :>

 

[Luco]

Anyone who has a DeviantArt account : next Saturday there will be an online Brawl tourney hosted by one of the admins of SSBWiki (formerly SmashWikia). Here's the link for more informations, in case one wants to participate : http://ssbbrawlers.deviantart.com/art/The-Snow-Brawl-Win-a-potential-year-premium-352706222

All I'm hoping is that the tourney will be a round robin one, because I get to brawl everybody without being eliminated and having to do friendlies. x)

Totally want to, but can't, because

1. Aus wifi is terrible

And i don't have an account. :C

 

[Nido]

2. is funny and cute at the same time.

It's -1 normally.

Who are you and why are you here?
I demand answers.

 

[Tikao]

nah , i'ts a -2, if the mk knows how to play against ness.when you're offstage , he can gimp us pretty hard D: ... out of grabrelease-dashgrabs , he can easily get us offstage (at the end grabrease-> dsmash/shuttleloop or air-release shuttleloop) it's a very bad position and mk's grab is fast ... and his dashgrab range the best in then entire game ... non teathered (or how olimars / zss's etc. grabs are called) ... without the GR and AR. it could be a -1, but the position out of it is very bad, specially against metahnight
But this MU is awesome , apart from that GR/AR and gimping thingy ... avoiding getting grabbed against mk is not that easy, it's not about the damage, but it's a very bad position

 

[pidgezero_one]

I think i'm slowly going to disappear from this game.

I can't make it to my next regional and... i actually don't care. I guess competitive smash has lost its appeal.

 

[Tikao]

noooo you'll make Ness cry ;_;

 

[Bartolon]

Ness does have good out of shield options though, I also think nair needs to get used alot more.
I changed my playstyle alot in the last weeks, especially using shorthops alot more and more nairs.

I also don't know why ness players aren't making use of the platforms on smashville and lylat more often.(platform cancelling or faking and inputting a slide downsmash but w/e)

 

[yoshi8984]

Noooooo I don't want another Ness main to disappear again
Especially since FOW pretty much left Ness now. ;__;

I would go to more tourneys if
1) My Smash scene was more alive lol
2) My family didn't have to worry about me as much. .__.

 

[Eagleye893]

Ness does have good out of shield options though, I also think nair needs to get used alot more.
I changed my playstyle alot in the last weeks, especially using shorthops alot more and more nairs.

I also don't know why ness players aren't making use of the platforms on smashville and lylat more often.(platform cancelling or faking and inputting a slide downsmash but w/e)

BARTOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! xD

Yeah, last time I played I was wondering why NAir was so good. If the sourspot had more hitstun (or whatever the term is called), it would be REALLY good. I just haven't really had much time nor want to play it seriously for a while.
Also, yes on OoS options. NAir, usmash, BAir, and even grab/dashgrab given the right situation are all pretty reliable and easy.

 

[Bartolon]

Yo Eagle! ;D

Uair out of shield is also really good cause of the hitbox and the surprise effect. I'm kinda sad delfino isn't on the counterpick list anymore though. Used to be my go-to stage everytime, sad day.

 

[yoshi8984]

It's not on the counterpicks anymore over there? Still a legal counterpick here.

 

[Jamwa]

at least its not aus where the cp's are YI, PS1 & LC

snake wins a lot, need RC

 

[R e d X]

I'm kinda sad delfino isn't on the counterpick list anymore though. Used to be my go-to stage everytime, sad day.

Sad day indeed, that's always been my go-to cp too, I love Delfino D:

We don't have RC/Binstar around here, but we do have Delfino cause we almost always use the Apex Ruleset

 

[Z'zgashi]

I think i'm slowly going to disappear from this game.

I can't make it to my next regional and... i actually don't care. I guess competitive smash has lost its appeal.

Just wait until smash 4 and Ness becomes really good.

Im really hoping Bowser is Top Tier somehow.