Ness

[Rasumii]

I've been playing with Ness a lot recently, and I've actually become quite good with him. I hope they add another Mother character though, even if it isn't Porky. The series is just fantastic as a whole.

 

[MSmariosonic]

I've been playing with Ness a lot recently, and I've actually become quite good with him. I hope they add another Mother character though, even if it isn't Porky. The series is just fantastic as a whole.

Admit that his back throw and down aerial are perfect....and his down tilt

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

They could approach. The tail of PK Thunder isnt some impenetrable wall or something.

 

[Shaky]

I don't think his recovery needs much fixing, if they improve his smash attacks and fix his GR I'll be happy.

 

[Rasumii]

Admit that his back throw and down aerial are perfect....and his down tilt

Your profile picture with this comment made me laugh hysterically.

But yes, they are absolutely amazing. I'm becoming a Ness fan by the second.

 

[Shin F.]

There is another possibility that hasn't been mentioned for Ness' recovery. If we don't get Ninten in SSB4 (which I would love, but is unlikely), then Ness could easily borrow his signature move, 4th-D Slip. Unlike PK Teleport, there's no running start, so it would work better as a recovery. He's already borrowed from other characters, and the two are fairly similar anyways.

Then we could have PK Rockin' α as his side special, same effect as PK Fire, and PK Rockin' Ω for his Final Smash. Make PK Flash have random effects like tripping, dizziness, sleep, or massive damage (kinda like a small, one-hit Negative Zone). PK Magnet could be the same, or he could use Power Shield, which would cause him to take half damage but would redirect the other half to the attacker. Or it could just redirect it all, but break more easily. Hypnosis could work as well, but only if it has some fairly good range.

 

[grizby2]

~Welcome to the forums~
and the ness thread for that matter

There is another possibility that hasn't been mentioned for Ness' recovery. If we don't get Ninten in SSB4 (which I would love, but is unlikely), then Ness could easily borrow his signature move, 4th-D Slip. Unlike PK Teleport, there's no running start, so it would work better as a recovery. He's already borrowed from other characters, and the two are fairly similar anyways.

Then we could have PK Rockin' α as his side special, same effect as PK Fire, and PK Rockin' Ω for his Final Smash. Make PK Flash have random effects like tripping, dizziness, sleep, or massive damage (kinda like a small, one-hit Negative Zone). PK Magnet could be the same, or he could use Power Shield, which would cause him to take half damage but would redirect the other half to the attacker. Or it could just redirect it all, but break more easily. Hypnosis could work as well, but only if it has some fairly good range.

oh believe you ME, all of those have been mentioned plenty of times.
usually with mixed opinions.

 

[Shin F.]

~Welcome to the forums~
and the ness thread for that matter

oh believe you ME, all of those have been mentioned plenty of times.
usually with mixed opinions.

Thanks!


All of them? Really? Huh. I mean, I saw most of them in the first few and last couple of pages but I must've missed the 4th-D Slip one in those pages from the middle I skipped.

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

BEWARE: Sometimes when people talk about changes to Ness they are starting from Melee Ness and other people are starting from Brawl Ness.

 

[solitonmedic]

Ninten for the win! Seriously, too much neglect for the original Mother.

 

[the smash nerd]

big fan need in Ssb4 or

 

[Swift Fox]

found this leak in smash reddit... likely fake but thought I'd post it here.

 

[Louie G.]

found this leak in smash reddit... likely fake but thought I'd post it here.

Ness looks awesome in this pic, but it looks kind of like a drawing rather than an official artwork akin to the other Smashers.
It could be true, and I hope it is, but I'm leaning towards no.

 

[Deleted member]

found this leak in smash reddit... likely fake but thought I'd post it here.

Ya know, I gotta hand it to the guy who made this model of Ness. Must have taken a lot of time.

 

[woopyfrood]

Don't be fooled. It doesn't match the artistic style of SSB4.

 

[FalKoopa]

I believe it's fake, but that drawing does look great.

 

[BADGRAPHICS]

The anti-aliasing is poor. The real artwork is better rendered; much smoother outlines with no artifacts; the butt of his bat is especially bad.
Obviously, this isn't conclusive proof the image is faked; it could still be getting cleaned up. But if that were the case, why would it be in situ on a mock-up site?

 

[grizby2]

the shadow isn't in the right place. awesome pic though.

 

[Orpheus2]

FabulousDancer posted this in the leak thread. Maybe it'll help with a side-by-side comparison:
http://smashboards.com/attachments/3ofljnk-png.3448/

 

[BluePikmin11]

FabulousDancer posted this in the leak thread. Maybe it'll help with a side-by-side comparison:
http://smashboards.com/attachments/3ofljnk-png.3448/

It blends really well!
Perhaps this could be a real image.

 

[Xiloh]

Ness is def one of my favorite characters and I'm not too worried about his inclusion, the leaked image isn't bad....but more than anything the earthbound rep should be more along the lines of:

Something about this style that I find so cool! :D

 

[Louie G.]

FabulousDancer posted this in the leak thread. Maybe it'll help with a side-by-side comparison:
http://smashboards.com/attachments/3ofljnk-png.3448/

I don't know if it's real or not, but it's a lot more believable next to the other characters.
It does look like the art style, I was wrong.
Especially when comparing his and Villager's shorts.

 

[Lasifer]

That Ness design is perfect. This is something that I want to be real.

 

[Eagleye893]

How does this sound for Ness' recovery:
-Ness doesnt go into freefall unless he does PKT2.
-The tail of PK Thunder continuously grows until Ness does PKT2 or PK Thunder expires(but hitting something or ending)
-When ending PKT2 on the ground, Ness has the same cooldown lag as Sheik does when landing out of Vanish

I do like the idea of a longer PKT tail. Maybe not even "grow over time" but just have it consistently long. The Brawl tail was really nice IMO.

I hated the landing lag on pkt2. OH GOD! in brawl, if you're using PKT at all on Frigate as the stage changes, you're close to dead; hitting something with PKT causes you to free-fall, and the spinning of the stage hates ness every time; using pkt2 you take too long to end your landing lag, so if the stage is changing, you go back into falling state rather than land.

One thing I liked about Melee with Ness' PKT is that starting it up doesn't cancel horizontal momentum. If they put that in ssb4, it'd be pretty sweet; you could do awesome slides across stage while sending PKT around to hit people... SO FUN!

Last but not least, I WANT MORE INCENTIVE TO USE PSI-MAGNET! (see pic on left)

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

In Brawl you can keep your momentum using PKT if you run off the stage and immediately upB.....also work when running off platforms.

Yeah its easier though in Melee where you can get momentum just by double jumping.

 

[yoshi8984]

I actually kind of like how PKT ends when it hits something so I'm still not suffering from the lag, though I would like it if Ness didn't start free falling if he fails to hit himself with it.

Also please reduce lag on PK Fire and have it trap an opponent better; I felt it was too easy to double jump out of in Brawl.

Reliable Smashes would be nice as well.

 

[grizby2]

I cant decide weather I like or dislike the hit-boxes of the yo-yo while charging up D-smash and U-smash....

 

[MylesMad]

I don't know if this has already been said or not, but I think it would be awesome if when Ness hit someone with a fully charged smash attack, you would hear the "SMAAAASH!!" (or critical hit) sound effect from Earthbound - maybe even with the colourful flashing text displayed above where the hit connected!

 

[grizby2]

I don't know if this has already been said or not, but I think it would be awesome if when Ness hit someone with a fully charged smash attack, you would hear the "SMAAAASH!!" (or critical hit) sound effect from Earthbound - maybe even with the colourful flashing text displayed above where the hit connected!

its been said many a-times~
!trivia!
did you know that ness and lucas have special charge-up sounds for their smashes?

 

[MylesMad]

its been said many a-times~
!trivia!
did you know that ness and lucas have special charge-up sounds for their smashes?

No I didn't; I'll check it out! Thanks!

 

[Roger Wilco]

I think he flat out needs a new up b. You can't efficiently recover with pkt

how about just do what project m did to it. it's super great in pm.

 

[Simna ibn Sind]

Every version of Brawl's PK Thunder makes me sad. Its a standard projectile......people can just attack it and destroy it.


I would much rather have PK Thunder as a Laser like it is in Melee.

 

[Schoo]

I really hope they either buff or change his PK Flash. Maybe change his B to PK Rockin'! I could dig it.

 

[Koopaul]

I always thought a good way to improve Ness' recovery was that you didn't have to worry about aiming the PK Thunder at the right angle. If Ness is off the stage all you have to do is hit yourself with PK Thunder (from any direction) and Ness will automatically blast homing to the ledge. That would keep his recovery unique but make it a lot easier to pull off.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I just prefer PK Teleport. But in general I just want a Ness that's more true to his EarthBound-self.

 

[Schoo]

I just want a Ness that's more true to his EarthBound-self.

Imagine if he were to get homesick in the middle of a battle. That would suck.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Nah, Ness has enough Guts in Smash not to feel like that. If nothing else, just make him battle on Onett all the time.

Seriously though, I'd like more attacks featuring his bat and yo-yo to.

 

[Schoo]

He has enough 'guts' thanks to the Gutsy Bat.
Which reminds me. Bionic Kraken grind. Never again.

 

[Diddy Kong]

He has enough 'guts' thanks to the Gutsy Bat.
Which reminds me. Bionic Kraken grind. Never again.

EarthBound is so damn awesome man...

 

[Schoo]

And I know it. I love the game. I'll never forget the day Mr. T gave me his sock.