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NEO's Hyperbolic Time Chamber (The IRL version)

En.Ee.Oh

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Perfecting technique in private to minimize mistake making + playing with people occasionally > Playing with people a lot


get ***** dan
 

Pierce7d

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Perfecting technique in private to minimize mistake making + playing with people occasionally > Playing with people a lot


get ***** dan
Yes, but I have fun in life which is what is more important when playing a video game.

get ***** . . . well, I won't post your real name here, because then your fanboys will start squealing, lmao.

*waits for Neo to actually start winning money again like he should be and then **** me.

EDIT: Also, Mario vs Sheik threatens to be epic.
 

clowsui

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LMAO @ dan and nathan

all u have to do is look up bach's fc6 top 32 vid (believe it's part 5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_iO1WvDPik

"My name is Nathaniel Eugene O'Guinn, that's my initials, n-e-o, i've been NEO technically since 1986 so it's not from The Matrix all you Matrix fans! I'm the original. Yes. Next question."

3:02 - 3:17
 

En.Ee.Oh

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LMAO @ dan and nathan

all u have to do is look up bach's fc6 top 32 vid (believe it's part 5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_iO1WvDPik

"My name is Nathaniel Eugene Oakland, that's my initials, n-e-o, i've been NEO technically since 1986 so it's not from The Matrix all you Matrix fans! I'm the original. Yes. Next question."

3:02 - 3:17
it's o'guinn

Yes, but I have fun in life which is what is more important when playing a video game.

get ***** . . . well, I won't post your real name here, because then your fanboys will start squealing, lmao.

*waits for Neo to actually start winning money again like he should be and then **** me.

EDIT: Also, Mario vs Sheik threatens to be epic.
yes because we all know that i have no social life, nice post count btw... when did you register?


DAYUMN *****, TKO GTFO
 

Pierce7d

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nice post count btw... when did you register?


DAYUMN *****, TKO GTFO
If you're implying I have no social life, you're quite obviously mistaken. As for my post count, it was largely accumulated last summer.

I would think that without even without talking about my life outside of smash, posting on a forum and interacting with other people, and playing smash WITH OTHER PEOPLE warrants a social life. In the end, I still stand as the one who actually enjoys this game, and manages to have fun. Seriously, after making this thread, LOL @ you even implying that I have no social life. ROFLMAO :laugh:
 

En.Ee.Oh

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If you're implying I have no social life, you're quite obviously mistaken. As for my post count, it was largely accumulated last summer.

I would think that without even without talking about my life outside of smash, posting on a forum and interacting with other people, and playing smash WITH OTHER PEOPLE warrants a social life. In the end, I still stand as the one who actually enjoys this game, and manages to have fun. Seriously, after making this thread, LOL @ you even implying that I have no social life. ROFLMAO :laugh:
naw not at all it was just a good burn response
 

Reizilla

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... THere's a stor...

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something about the pope. Not really.
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wow, 1671 views and only 61 posts. $10 says it's only because it's made by NEO with NEO in the title.:laugh:
 

Pr0phetic

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My notes from today: (note - if it seems like there's something I already should know on this list, I do. It's just to practice/improve in that area, or add something to my game)

- DJ to reset spacing
- Fthrow --> Usmash read
- Bthrow --> Fsmash read
- Dash away, dash back --> DB or Grab
- Dtilt and Fair approaches
- OoS options
- Fair --> AD away
- Mixup of landing methods (DJs, ADs, DB1 stall)
- Z-dropping nanas and nades in a match

And now back to whiffing more attacks until Minty comes online or I find someone who's better then me to wifi with.
 

Inle~Orichas

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Hey Rukkiko, you seem to know the most about B-Throw. Can you tell me some of the key differences between this throw and D-throw?

I always thought D-throw would always make B-throw redundant.
 

Pr0phetic

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Hey Rukkiko, you seem to know the most about B-Throw. Can you tell me some of the key differences between this throw and D-throw?

I always thought D-throw would always make B-throw redundant.
Dthrow is way better then Bthrow, in terms of trajectory, damage, ad KB. However, no one expects a Bthrow for this purpose, so it can make a good mixup.
 

Inle~Orichas

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What about Frame Advantage?

(Yes I could look at frame data for this, but I'm also wondering if this is a good throw to use against heavy characters, in case B-throw is less affected by their weight than D-throw.)

EDIT: NM, throws aren't listed there, I just checked.

EDIT2: Thanks Rukkiko.
 

feardragon64

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Bthrow isn't worth using unless they're at really high percents(I think it's like 100+'ish or something) and you want to be able to follow up. Otherwise, dthrow is better since it does more damage and sends them at a better angle. That's my opinion anyways. Bthrow sucks and has a horrible frame advantage.
 

Shaya

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Back throw is good around the 60%.

It will have a better frame advantage than dthrow on all characters.

Like after hitstun change, on Mario, dthrow will go from +3 to -12.
Back throw will go from -13 advantage to -6 at around the 60s. Hence Back throw is better than dthrow from about 40% until 70%.
Donkey Kong, dthrow will go from -1 to -17. Back throw will go from -18 to -12. Meaning back throw is more advantageous than dthrow at higher percents as well.

Over all though fthrow is always better +14 to -3 on Mario, +12 to -5 on DK. But bthrow definitely is better for a 'backwards' throw if required at the mid percents mark, always.

(P.S. all the 'second rate' advantages are for air dodges, add +12 for ATTACKS -> So depending on your opponent's habits dthrow may always be better)
Oh but of course the dthrow trajectory is probably more useful too, lol.
 

M4ge

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I've actually started training like this a week or 2 ago...It's surprisingly effective. O_O
Muscle memory and all that stuff. Longest time I spent doing this was...4 hours straight? lol
 

Pr0phetic

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M4ge! You don't know me yet but I'm a friend of Kevin's (hippie). I heard you play Marth, welcome!

I need to set aside sometime once my cousin leaves, I could only get abotu an hour in on training today.
 

M4ge

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M4ge! You don't know me yet but I'm a friend of Kevin's (hippie). I heard you play Marth, welcome!

I need to set aside sometime once my cousin leaves, I could only get abotu an hour in on training today.
Your name sounds really really familiar...
Did you go to the PGN's GT tournament? I think I might've seen your tag before...

And yeah, I played a ton of friendlies with Hippie 2 days ago. I'm trying to main him. (Since Link isn't really tournament viable. *sad face*)
 

Pr0phetic

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Your name sounds really really familiar...
Did you go to the PGN's GT tournament? I think I might've seen your tag before...

And yeah, I played a ton of friendlies with Hippie 2 days ago. I'm trying to main him. (Since Link isn't really tournament viable. *sad face*)
Ah I see, well Marth is **** so yea =P And no, I went to Knightmare's GT however.
 

M4ge

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OH. That's it then. I went to that too. I played Link and got ***** by everybody. >_>
This is why I decided to pick up Marth. -_-
 
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