Kishin
Smash Ace
Nevermind.
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infomon
Smash Scientist
If you shield an attack within the first 3 frames of your shield coming out it's a "perfect shield" and you don't have shield-drop lag if you drop it
Like just tap shield the moment something's in shield-range
Like just tap shield the moment something's in shield-range
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
Ally starts mashing out of grabs before you grab him, apparently.
many37
Smash Journeyman
I have a question. Can I get good advice for when I am at a Tourney and I try to win that tourney? If possible I would also like to have some advice in both predicting my opponent's gameplay and when I'm not playing at all (watching other people play, have a rest from playing too much, etc...)
AlienVampires
Smash Rookie
How do I tech spikes at the end of chaingrabs properly?
If it matters, I'm talking specifically vs Ice Climbers.
Do I just tap the analogue stick towards the stage as I'm being smashed? Do I do it in a downward angle? Or directly horizontally?
If it matters, I'm talking specifically vs Ice Climbers.
Do I just tap the analogue stick towards the stage as I'm being smashed? Do I do it in a downward angle? Or directly horizontally?
Scabe
Successful Businessman
Usually in frame data I'll see this: Advantage: -14
What does this mean?
What does this mean?
Browny
Smash Hater
That means the enemy has that many frames to react + punish if they drop shield at the perfect time.
Shield drop i believe is 7 frames, and ignoring shield grabs, a -14 move means if the enemy drops shield the instant you can do so safely, you have 7 frames to do something. when it gets to + numbers, it means the person who attacked your shield can do something (grab, jab whatever) before you can even react or do anything. Those numbers are kind of useless by themselves, you gotta apply them to matchups before they really mean anything. like attacking wolfs shield with a -14 or -12 attack is the difference between you getting dsmashed oos or not (for example, im only guessing those numbers).
Shield drop i believe is 7 frames, and ignoring shield grabs, a -14 move means if the enemy drops shield the instant you can do so safely, you have 7 frames to do something. when it gets to + numbers, it means the person who attacked your shield can do something (grab, jab whatever) before you can even react or do anything. Those numbers are kind of useless by themselves, you gotta apply them to matchups before they really mean anything. like attacking wolfs shield with a -14 or -12 attack is the difference between you getting dsmashed oos or not (for example, im only guessing those numbers).
DarkLouis331
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Who would you say is the most aggressive character in Brawl? I main Snake/Wolf, and I'm thinking about picking up Pikachu because it is fun to play him and he does alright against D3 and Falco. I'm a defensive player...sometimes way too defensive...and I'd like to try something different.
Kaffei
Smash Hero
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Aggressive? IMO Mk.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there is such a thing as too defensive in brawl. Approaching almost always gets you hurt.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
[I'm well aware that the lower our percent is, the better we can get out of a grab.]
What are the most effective controller inputs to get out of a grab as fast as possible?
Is it twiddling the C-stick?
What are the most effective controller inputs to get out of a grab as fast as possible?
Is it twiddling the C-stick?
Melomaniacal
Smash Champion
Roll the analog stick, tap L, R and Z, and roll/slide your thumb around B, A, Y, and X. All as fast as possible, of course.
B!squick
Smash Master
Unless you're not DK and you're grabbed by Bowser, in which case you want to mash jump usually.
infomon
Smash Scientist
^^ well, you just need your last input to be jump so that you air-release, you may want to use other stuff in advance of the jump input to get out sooner. but that's tricky 
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
1. if you want to win at tourney the main way to go about playing your best is to make sure you take care of yourself physically in preperation for the tourney, that means eating a good meal before heading out. getting a good nights sleep the day before, not being sick, and not being inebriated. (youd be surprised how many people show up to tournaments high, drunk or hungover.)
2. when it comes to prediction, it comes down to knowing how people react to certain situations and how to beat said reactions. for example, knowing how certain players or characters react when they are sent in the air directly above the opponent. because then when you play them you will know how to punish that reaction, with what ever tools your character has. its all about figuring out peoples habits, and doing what you can to punish those habits. like if a falco likes to recover a certain way, you can recognise that and punish it.
im unsure what you are asking here since the two statements arent really related.
how do you tech spikes? hit the shield button right before you hit the ground.
for the second paragraph, i think what you are talking about sdi. and for that yes, tap both sticks directly horizontal toward the stage.
As far as tournies go, if you want to be able to read players better, you need to condition them to your playstyle. Using Game & Watch as an example: Often I pressure with full hopped bairs. When I say often I mean I abuse the bloody hell out of that move. Soon they expect it so much that shield it every time. So then I just fullhop, airdodge, grab and kill. They thought I would use the same move again, and why wouldn't I? I was using it the whole match right?
Let's say if I try to grab someone who's in super armor frames, what happens ?
Like trying to grab Marth's DS, I have the feeling that DS beats the grab but I can't verify.
Like trying to grab Marth's DS, I have the feeling that DS beats the grab but I can't verify.
theunabletable
Smash Lord
Marth's DS has invincibility frames IIRC.
So I'm quite sure it'd beat grab.
So I'm quite sure it'd beat grab.
kalle3004
Smash Rookie
When's the new tier list coming out? It's been almost 8 months since the last as opposed to six months between lists 2 and 3.
Anonymous Brawler
Smash Journeyman
theunabletable
Smash Lord
It'll come out when it's ready to come out.
Just read the **** thread, they've answered that like 30+ times...
Just read the **** thread, they've answered that like 30+ times...
Anonymous Brawler
Smash Journeyman
Sorry, it's just cause I didn't want to search trough 170 pages. Do you think that any character will leave the S tier? If yes, who will enter than?
SCOTU
Smash Hero
Tier lists come out when they come out.
NoOneReallyCares
Smash Rookie
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Any1 know any Sonic stategies? I think he has none -.-
SCOTU
Smash Hero
Check the Sonic Character Specific boards, and look around there, although what you're looking for is something very general, and you may find it better to narrow what you're looking for first.
Smash back room, a collection of smashers who are considered to be the top of top in tournaments and discussion. These people create the tier list and I think the stages/stuff as well.
There is a separate back room for melee and for brawl, known as the MBR (Melee Back Room) and BBR (Brawl Back Room).
Hi guys, this is my first post here. I'm alright at the game, never gotten too technical with it but would like to improve! haha anyhow - got two real questions, I think.
1. One, my school's having a 2v2 tournament with friendly fire soon. I've rarely played 2v2 matches, let alone friendly fire, so I'm not sure what to think. I switch between about 5 or 6 characters, primarily Wolf or Zelda, but also Toon Link, ZSS, Marth, and occasionally. What should I be ready for? Is there one of the chars listed above that would be best suited to 2v2 gameplay? Any videos or anything'd be appreciated.
2. What can I practice in my own time to improve my skills? I do have access to players (hallmates haha!), is there anything that stands out as something I might not be aware of?
Thanks!
1. One, my school's having a 2v2 tournament with friendly fire soon. I've rarely played 2v2 matches, let alone friendly fire, so I'm not sure what to think. I switch between about 5 or 6 characters, primarily Wolf or Zelda, but also Toon Link, ZSS, Marth, and occasionally. What should I be ready for? Is there one of the chars listed above that would be best suited to 2v2 gameplay? Any videos or anything'd be appreciated.
2. What can I practice in my own time to improve my skills? I do have access to players (hallmates haha!), is there anything that stands out as something I might not be aware of?
Thanks!
SnackAttack
Smash Champion
What is the best way to work on spacing?
SnackAttack
Smash Champion
Sorry for the Double Post!
Uhm, the best advice I can give is to play the people in your hall and to look at the character boards for each of your favorites.
They usually have a video thread and a lot of them have 2 v 2s.
Good luck!
I personally like Marth the best in 2 v 2. If you have a teammate who plays Ness, then the ZSS+Ness combination is really good.
Uhm, the best advice I can give is to play the people in your hall and to look at the character boards for each of your favorites.
They usually have a video thread and a lot of them have 2 v 2s.
Good luck!
Go to tactical brawl. there should be a thread named: the best vids of each character. u will find a lot of videos there on how to play each character.
Hey, thanks, guys! Been checking it out, reading around, seems pretty helpful. Got a few more questions I don't quite understand.
What is DACUS?
Super armor I kinda get, you suffer no knockback during the duration of the frames. Which characters can do this aside from Olimar?
Does Zelda's d-air spike? I've seen it in a couple vids, but I was fooling around last night, and couldn't seem to get it to hit.
The sliding up-smash with Snake and Diddy Kong (anyone else?). I've read how to do this, but still can't quite get it. I run toward my opponent, initiate a dash attack (with the c-stick), then mash up immediately?
haha that's it for now thanks a ton guys
What is DACUS?
Super armor I kinda get, you suffer no knockback during the duration of the frames. Which characters can do this aside from Olimar?
Does Zelda's d-air spike? I've seen it in a couple vids, but I was fooling around last night, and couldn't seem to get it to hit.
The sliding up-smash with Snake and Diddy Kong (anyone else?). I've read how to do this, but still can't quite get it. I run toward my opponent, initiate a dash attack (with the c-stick), then mash up immediately?
haha that's it for now thanks a ton guys
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
no problem brah
Scabe
Successful Businessman
So I've realised that I don't know when I should spotdodge. Also I spotdodge spam like crazy.
The question is, when should you spotdodge? What is it's purpose? Is spotdodging a move and then trying to punish the move a bad idea?
The question is, when should you spotdodge? What is it's purpose? Is spotdodging a move and then trying to punish the move a bad idea?
Browny
Smash Hater
Spotdodging depends on who you are against, and on how good your spotdodge is. Spotdodging can be extremely effective vs the likes of snake and rob who normally have so much shield knockback and/or low lag they can spam tilts kind of safely. dont spotdodge too much vs Lucario or Wario who can catch you with lingering hitboxes or are punishable on block normally.
i did not read through all the pages and the search box was not working for me for some reason, so i apologize if this question was already asked...
but, when playing as Zelda, is it more useful to switch back and forth between Zelda and Shiek? or is it better to stay as one character the whole time?
and if it is better to switch back and forth between shiek and Zelda, when are the appropriate times to be Zelda and when are the appropriate times to switch to shiek?
thanks!
but, when playing as Zelda, is it more useful to switch back and forth between Zelda and Shiek? or is it better to stay as one character the whole time?
and if it is better to switch back and forth between shiek and Zelda, when are the appropriate times to be Zelda and when are the appropriate times to switch to shiek?
thanks!
SCOTU
Smash Hero
I'm no expert on that topic, but if you wanted "expert" opinions, you'd best go to the sheik and zelda boards to ask.
However, if i'm correct, the typical strategy used when switching is to rack up damage with sheik because she's better, but then switch to zelda to KO because she has stronger attacks, depending on the matchup.
However, if i'm correct, the typical strategy used when switching is to rack up damage with sheik because she's better, but then switch to zelda to KO because she has stronger attacks, depending on the matchup.
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