Peach/Falcon is advantage Falcon in my opinion. It's doable for Peach but I feel like Falcon still runs circles around her and she can't force him to stay still very well because she's slow and gets kidnapped after baking cakes.
Yeah but once Peach gets that hit/stage control
Your stock is GONE
Or it takes a long long time to get it back
The way I base 50/50s is this:
If you get one hit, does it usually translate to a stock because of weight/combability/etc?
[silly reason] Does one side complain as much about one side as the other does?
Mostly I just feel like it's a feeling thing, and the match ups, as they're developing, are moving much more towards 50/50 as people are starting to figure it out
Like for example, as said before, as Falcon players start to understand how to abuse their strengths [dat knee, mobility, and combo ability] and all the things that come from that [stage control, conditioning your opponent] then things get significantly easier
Leading me to my "the biggest problems Falcon as a character has are spacies"
Accepted can suck an oily one because people thought Puff was ban worthy/broken/top 3 across the board last year. I challenge all rules that I feel like challenging.
Well there's a difference between accepting out of ignorance and accepting because of knowledge/reasoning. You can accept anything without it being true per se, but I feel like the truth is eventually gonna come out
Falcon is faster than Peach, has bigger moves than Peach,
I was going to refute that but you're actually right. However, both of us know that Peach gets more from a trade than Falcon does usually. so [shrugs]
can wall Peach, can't die off the top to Uair combos or CG upsmash well, and can kill from a read to a knee vs having to finagle a combo into it. Falcon also gets platform tricks and Dair abuse from it that Peach has a tough time answering to when used intelligently. Falcon's grab game is just as destructive as Peach's is and tends to have easier things to get off of it.
Falcon's grab game is so good, it's one of those things that I'm really starting to truly appreciate. And you'll have to show me this dair abuse
Is it because of not really having good high cover options?
vs Marth someone wins because that matchup is gay and too many people think someone wins so someone's gotta win. Feels like Falcon a lot but Marth gets some cool gimps and can tech chase for a while with throws and has sick juggles soooo
All I have to say is
Accepted can suck an oily one because people thought Puff was ban worthy/broken/top 3 across the board last year. I challenge all rules that I feel like challenging.
Jiggz is super weird and I don't fully understand that matchup so no comment. Walling wars vs Falcon's Uair'ing under/stomping over puff and tight grab combos/kills vs free edgeguards and low percent rest kills to nullify Falcon's weight.
Guess you'll get some action with my falcon this weekend huh
Bring it baby
Gives me a chance to practice this newfangled dthrow->nipple spike everyone is talking about
What is this sheik thing justified by? I'm aware you'll say matchup things but if Hax johnned about Sheik and lost to her then that would mean that Darkrain SS and him all lost to Sheik at majors so you guys would say Falcon lost to Sheik. Hax himself says Sheik beats Falcon but he's really good at the matchup. Meh responding to matchup things in your next post.
What is the whole "I think this is 50/50" thing justified by? Is that what you're asking?
Sheik approaches by spacing stuff and threatening, like a slower Marth.
Because if it is, that's why.
Guh hate the can't approach theory, as an aside.
Understandable, there's always an approach
It's just one of those things that says
I have the ability to counter your approach
As opposed to
You can do stuff and I have no answer to it
spaced Bair beats tilts sometimes and is great in general for hitting at Sheik's head, which she doesn't cover too well except with like Bair.
I mean yeah DD ***** too but Falcon can do stuff.
Hello, ftilt Kevin
ftilt
ftilt
death
utilt too but less so
Because who would do that?
Falcon can do so much more off of grabs at any percent(except pretty high ones I guess).....just watch Hax lol he knows the %s or "formulas." It stops being mandatory to tech chase vs sheik pretty low I think.
Imo there's more to neutral than approaching anyway and more to punishing than grabs and edgeguards but this is a pretty good starting point I suppose.
Agreed, see above about Falcon's grab game
I think it's about 17% where it stops being a tech chase
25% is where uthrow->nair connects
