Event - MLG Anaheim 2014 My Letter to Nintendo

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

honestly you can look at posters like this and blame them for everything that's wrong with our community.

Say what you want about me. However, I've seen the Marvel community get MvC2 ported to the ps3 and 360 with online. Then they get Marvel 3. Melee community is still playing melee and complaining how bad brawl is. Ever wonder why the creator tried to not make brawl competitive ?

But hey here's my view on things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVcDooD9ilU

 

[Jonas]

I know there is a video online somewhere of a tournament where the winner got to play Sakurai in a round. I don't think they're against tournaments. I feel they don't care about them at all.

Brawl was even marketed as a competitive game in Europe, with David Sirling doing instructional videos about things like stage control, advanced techniques, DI etc. and the last of his videos included a tournament match from EVO. So as you say, they don't hate tournaments or competitive games. They just don't make games for themselves or for "the fans," they make games for the largest possible group of consumers

Say what you want about me. However, I've seen the Marvel community get MvC2 ported to the ps3 and 360 with online. Then they get Marvel 3. Melee community is still playing melee and complaining how bad brawl is. Ever wonder why the creator tried to not make brawl competitive ?

What, the Melee fans made Sakurai hate the community by making his game the best selling game on its console and playing it religiously for years?
And the MvC2 community somehow behaved better than the Melee community? How, exactly...?

 

[TP]

Say what you want about me. However, I've seen the Marvel community get MvC2 ported to the ps3 and 360 with online. Then they get Marvel 3. Melee community is still playing melee and complaining how bad brawl is. Ever wonder why the creator tried to not make brawl competitive ?

But hey here's my view on things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVcDooD9ilU

Did you just say that people complaining about Brawl being uncompetitive after it was released is the reason that Brawl was designed to be uncompetitive before it was released?

 

[SirroMinus1]

Lol when will we ever see sakurai @ an mlg event show casing a new smash.... Never!
they probably dont care whether this community exist or not. they just want money & if get unintended attention from this letter more power to u

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Did you just say that people complaining about Brawl being uncompetitive after it was released is the reason that Brawl was designed to be uncompetitive before it was released?

Na, I said the melee community is the reason brawl isn't competitive.

What, the Melee fans made Sakurai hate the community by making his game the best selling game on its console and playing it religiously for years?
And the MvC2 community somehow behaved better than the Melee community? How, exactly...?

Not saying they behaved better however, they were able to get a port to ps3/360. Where's the melee port? No online support ?

I don't see how a creator goes out his way to make the game non competitive an online mode that is **** but the melee community isn't to be blamed? Can't get brawl streamed on MLG ? I like how the brawl community can be held to a standard and the way we act can be viewed in a negative light but the melee community can't??? I can't the melee community pissing sunshines and craps rainbows. W/e If you want to know why brawl is the way it is let's look before it okay?

 

[Palpi]

You are dumb as ****---^

 

[GimR]

@almostledgendary:

If you hadn't noticed, Capcom actually cares about the competitive community. They understand that it can grow the audience for their game.

 

[SnackAttack]

im not sure if it should be Dear Nintendo or To Whom it may concern

what address do you plan on sending it to?

You also have to consider what nintendo views MLG as. So if i were you OP you should research what nintendos stand is concerning companies like MLG

I think you're right about the "to whom it may concern". It sounds more professional.

There's a plethora of different options such as customer support, they have an "other" option which you can file under "corporate questions".

As for sending it to a real address, I think I can do that, but my penmanship is ****ing terrible, and I don't have a printer at my house.

Overall, this will take a hell of a lot of time to form a coherent, educated opinion and write a letter that would follow this opinion, but I'm definitely up for it.

Spoiler

I know, my grammar is awful.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

@almostledgendary:

If you hadn't noticed, Capcom actually cares about the competitive community. They understand that it can grow the audience for their game.

So now you're going to lead me to believe that nintendo doesn't care about it's fan base? When I'm able to play mario kart seemingly laglessly with 12 people world wide but can't get match from people in the US not to lag it should tell you something. I was also going to bring up how the creator doesn't want anything to do with the community as opposed to a Seth Killian or an Ono.

 

[SnackAttack]

Please make it clear where GIMR said that Nintendo doesn't care about their fanbase, AL.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Please make it clear where GIMR said that Nintendo doesn't care about their fanbase, AL.

he said that capcom actually cares about the competitive community. Is brawl competitive community not apart of the nitendo fan base?

 

[SnackAttack]

Nintendo does care about the majority of their fan-base. They just market more towards the casual/family gaming markets. They don't care about the hardcore gamers.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Nintendo does care about the majority of their fan-base. They just market more towards the casual/family gaming markets. They don't care about the hardcore gamers.

I don't understand the term hardcore gamer.

 

[Tenki]

^It's a label used to make some more-immersed gamers feel privileged and 1337, afaik.
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I second a notion to send it to Nintendo of America rather than Nintendo of Japan.

Reggie Fils-Aime
President of NoA​

He seems like a nice person to ask who might be able to route it to the right people, and even get proper translators if he needs to send it to them.

 

[Eddie G]

Na, I said the melee community is the reason brawl isn't competitive.



Not saying they behaved better however, they were able to get a port to ps3/360. Where's the melee port? No online support ?

I don't see how a creator goes out his way to make the game non competitive an online mode that is **** but the melee community isn't to be blamed? Can't get brawl streamed on MLG ? I like how the brawl community can be held to a standard and the way we act can be viewed in a negative light but the melee community can't??? I can't the melee community pissing sunshines and craps rainbows. W/e If you want to know why brawl is the way it is let's look before it okay?

So you're blaming the Melee community because they played their game competitively? That's all you're really doing here. It's obvious that Sakurai doesn't approve of competitive play with his games even before the Melee community made Melee what it is today, no one is to blame. Sakurai just took it upon himself to make sure that it wouldn't happen again. Luckily for us Brawl still turned out pretty good as a competitive fighter.

I know I've scrutinized your knowledge of competitive Brawl, but after seeing the type of material that you constantly present in your posts...I'm starting to wonder if you even leave your house at all.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

So you're blaming the Melee community because they played their game competitively? That's all you're really doing here. It's obvious that Sakurai doesn't approve of competitive play with his games even before the Melee community made Melee what it is today, no one is to blame. Sakurai just took it upon himself to make sure that it wouldn't happen again. Luckily for us Brawl still turned out pretty good as a competitive fighter.

I know I've scrutinized your knowledge of competitive Brawl, but after seeing the type of material that you constantly present in your posts...I'm starting to wonder if you even leave your house at all.

????? I don't understand your point. I don't think there's a problem with playing the gaming competitively. I believe he has a problem with the community ie the people their attitudes. So whatever else you have to say about me or in your post I really don't give a **** when you can't even keep up with the basic premise I present you with. Get a ****ing clue QueenBeef.

 

[Ripple]

????? I don't understand your point. I don't think there's a problem with playing the gaming competitively. I believe he has a problem with the community ie the people their attitudes. So whatever else you have to say about me or in your post I really don't give a **** when you can't even keep up with the basic premise I present you with. Get a ****ing clue QueenBeef.

his point is that yours makes no ****ing sense. you're blaming melee players for brawl being a "bad" game in your eyes. you're basically basically saying its the 64 players fault that melee was not online

and insult someone again and I'll report it

 

[Palpi]

I don't understand the term hardcore gamer.

You are dumb as ****---^

Competitive brawl is part of the fanbase. It just so happens that is makes up a minuscule amount of their overall fanbase. So that is why they don't care. holy ****

Melee players back in 2005 and 2006 were like "lets make this game so ****ing competitive that sakurai hates it and makes a ****tier game afterwards" devious plan i might add

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

Melee players back in 2005 and 2006 were like "lets make this game so ****ing competitive that sakurai hates it and makes a ****tier game afterwards" devious plan i might add

Whatever you're smoking, please, pass some of it on to the rest of us.

 

[Jonas]

AlMoStLeGeNdArY still needs to tell us what exactly the Melee community has done that somehow pissed Sakurai off to no end. I really don't know what the hell he's talking about.

Oh and Mario Kart Wii lags online. It lags a lot. If you haven't noticed, then you haven't been paying attention to the other drivers. They rubberband like crazy. Racing games just have the benefit on not needing one player's commands to exactly match his character's movements on his opponent's screen, which is why you don't experience input lag in MKWii.

 

[Eddie G]

Whatever you're smoking, please, pass some of it on to the rest of us.

He was obviously being sarcastic.

 

[Life]

Thought I'd take a poke at writing a second draft.

Spoiler

Greetings, Nintendo!

We are writing to you in regards to Major League Gaming's attempts to acquire the rights to stream video of their Super Smash Bros. Brawl tournaments.

While we understand that you prefer to market your products to a more casual audience--and there's nothing wrong with that--Nintendo in general, and Brawl in particular, has a notable tournament-going audience: MLG's tournaments each have had more than one hundred Brawl participants from all over the United States, and in addition, local "grassroots" tournaments see dozens of players every week.

Allowing MLG to stream video of their Brawl tournaments would be mutually beneficial to both companies as well as individual fans. MLG could generate more interest in their tournaments, because more people would be able to watch them; Nintendo could generate more interest in Brawl, as current players use the stream to get their friends interested; and fans of the game benefit as the size of the community grows.

As current players use the livestream to get more people to play Brawl, Brawl sales (which reached 1.4 million in the first week of the game's release) will see an increase. Not only that, but if and when a fourth Super Smash Bros. installment is released, those new Brawl fans will be far more likely to purchase it as well, causing what would already be massive sales to rise even higher. This, in turn, will increase the amount of viewers MLG's livestream will have once MLG adds the new game to its circuit (a near guarantee, as they have previously included Melee and currently include Brawl), causing the series to be hyped even further: a cycle that will be of great financial benefit to both MLG and Nintendo.

We, the Super Smash Bros. Brawl fandom, are highly appreciative of the excellent games you have designed, and want to see Nintendo and Major League Gaming come to an accord for the benefit of all involved. Please reconsider the merits of allowing MLG to stream their Brawl events, and meet with MLG representatives to discuss the terms by which this may be accomplished.

Best regards,
the Super Smash Bros. Brawl community
(not affiliated with Major League Gaming)

Suggestions welcome.

Who to send it to:
1. Reggie Fils-Aime, if he has a public e-mail address. (Kindly don't try to dig up his private one, that'd reflect incredibly badly upon us.)
2. General NoA email.

I don't see the harm in writing to Nintendo of Japan, although it would be about convincing them to make SSB4 (or something like that) and be unrelated to the livestream.

Also come up with an attractive title, otherwise whichever secretary takes care of this will most likely delete it without reading.

As I keep saying: make it about the money, and Nintendo will listen.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Anymore opinions? :D

I remember when I had your avatar except more zoomed and with a monocle and top hat.

 

[AgentJGV]

I think that one letter wouldn't reach anyone important. I mean with a company as big as Nintendo it would probably fall through the cracks. Granted your revised draft is incredibly good.

Now here's an idea. what if everyone in the smash community sent them this letter? i think that if we all send them a copy of it, someone will notice something and pass it along up the ladder.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

If we all sent it, it would be fine.

Lets all send it.

 

[Palpi]

Whatever you're smoking, please, pass some of it on to the rest of us.

Sarcasm detector, veepbeepbeepbeepbeepBEEP!

 

[Martyr]

Well...this thread fell off faster than the Baha Men.