Most Tech Skill Chars.....

[Leviathan741]

So here is what I think are the chars that take the most tech skill, top 10..... Discuss and opinions. I didn't think 2 much about this list so I probably forgot some here and there, but I definently will say that all of these are high up there. I didn't sit down and look at the character list and think about everyone's pros and cons, but generally speaking all of these characters should be high up there...... Oh and no question that Fox takes the most tech skill.

1. Fox
2. Falco
3. Ice Climbers
4. Peach
5. Captain Falcon
6. Marth/Sheik (Don't really know about these 2)
7. Doctor Mario (At this point it gets harder to call, so I need some help from here)
8. DK

 

[MooseEatsBear]

Use the search function. I've seen this thread at least three times in the past month.
Also, IC's for top tech skill difficulty.

 

[t3h Icy]

Lol, that list is so bad. Also many low tiers can require high technical abilities, such as Mewtwo and Yoshi. Hell, you're even missing Samus.

Also Ice Climbers definitely is first, not Fox, lol.

 

[Leviathan741]

Lol, that list is so bad. Also many low tiers can require high technical abilities, such as Mewtwo and Yoshi. Hell, you're even missing Samus.

Also Ice Climbers definitely is first, not Fox, lol.

Oh **** I knew I was missing them, can't believe I missed Yoshi, and Mewtwo.....

But ummm Samus?

 

[MooseEatsBear]

Oh **** I knew I was missing them, can't believe I missed Yoshi, and Mewtwo.....

But ummm Samus?

SWD, Double Missiling, ledgehop missile, shff missile, beam cancel, grapple cancel/rising grapple, bomb jump aerials, and tons of up+b edge canceling.

 

[Kanelol]

i used to believe Fox was number one

but the more i play Falco the more I believe it's a tie between the two

Spoiler

Also, LOW TIERS LOLOLOLOLOL

 

[hungrybox]

Excluding Low-tiers,

1. Ice Climbers
2. Fox
3. Falco
4. Falcon
5. Samus

 

[Leviathan741]

Excluding Low-tiers,

1. Ice Climbers
2. Fox
3. Falco
4. Falcon
5. Samus

Hmm.... pretty accurate... of course I am still a little shaky on the Samus thing...

 

[Limeee]

how is falcon technical?
he's just all reads

 

[phanna]

Hmm.... pretty accurate... of course I am still a little shaky on the Samus thing...

... I hate you

 

[Ryzol_]

Is this minimum tech skill needed to be competitive, or maximum tech skill possible with a character?

If it's minimum ICs probably are the highest.

 

[edgeluca]

1. Fox
2. Falco
3. Ice Climbers
4. Samus

 

[Jim Morrison]

ic's is piss easy what's wrong with you ppl

 

[Leviathan741]

Is this minimum tech skill needed to be competitive, or maximum tech skill possible with a character?

If it's minimum ICs probably are the highest.

either one, whichever one you think you can discuss better

 

[Leviathan741]

... I hate you

Jeez.... calm down, and after watching that video, I think higher of samus tech skill......

 

[1048576]

Excluding Low-tiers,

1. Ice Climbers
2. Fox
3. Falco
4. Falcon
5. Samus

Agree, but I'd replace Falcon with Peach. The thing with Samus is even though she has a lot of 1-frame stuff, you don't need to do any of it to win tournaments. Its icing on the cake really. Peach has a lot of fast fc stuff that you have to do on the first couple frames possible to be good enough to win tournaments.

 

[Mind Trick]

1 IC's (amount of diff chaingrabs/handoffs, timing varying for every character, continuous desynch stuff, the harder desynch starters)
2 Fox (...mostly stuff to do with shine lol)
3 Falco (bit slower than fox, no shdl, but still great technical potential)
4 Samus (too many character specific techniques to count ;D)
5 Yoshi (DJC with turnaround, parry stuff, (reverse) edge cancelled eggs)
6 Peach (FC shieldpressure/combo's)
7 Sheik (needle turnaround stuff)
8 Falcon (general speedyness)

(I put sheik and falcon over chars like ness and mewtwo because I think they are somewhat harder to control perfectly consistent)

imo

 

[SirroMinus1]

Yoshi
have you guys seen FUMI!? Have you guys also seen a similar play style?
I.C.
Fox
Falco
Peach

 

[TheGoat]

-ice climbers
-fox
-falco
-rest does not matter

 

[choknater]

as an ic's main i'd still say that fox is a little more demanding.

yoshi is the most technically difficult character IMO

1 yoshi
2 fox
3 ic

 

[Druggedfox]

I'd say fox requires more tech skill than ICs...anything related to strict timing is very accomplishable by pretty much anyone, it can be done through rote memorization.

When it comes to things that require more dexterity/speed, many players have a much harder time/can't accomplish it.

Depends how you define technical though, which is a big difference for each person.

 

[Signia]

Ranked based on these facts:

Faster characters are naturally harder to control
Characters with strict timing on their combos will be harder to maximize damage with
Characters who can't combo well will be easier to maximize damage with
Special techniques and DJC add complexity and difficulty to using characters effectively
No idea where to put Roy

ICs
Fox
Falco
Samus
Peach
Ness
Yoshi
Falcon
Pikachu
Pichu
Mewtwo
Marth
Doc
Mario
Luigi
YLink
Link
Sheik
Ganon
Roy
Puff
DK
G&W
Kirby
Zelda
Bowser

 

[V3ctorMan]

Yay for Yoshi! <3

 

[j3ly]

bowser is not bottom of that list. especially on YS..!

also, mario is more technical than doc. reasons:

way more platform autocancels
has a walljump
has upB walljump
can doraki walljump
fireball waveland has to be perfected in order to combo - doc draws no use from pill waveland
mario has floor hitbox to his dair

 

[Van.]

I agree mario is more technical than Doc. Besides, ptp, which is obviously the hardest technical in the game, the only super technical thing Doc has is Bair waveland. Also, Fox is more technichal than the IC's. Wobbles has repeatedly said that he is not technical at all, and he's the indisputably the top IC's. You don't hear top foxes talking about their lack of tech skill.

 

[Druggedfox]

Doc can up-b cancel.... that's more technical than bair waveland >_>

 

[j3ly]

but upB cancel only amounts to one technical thing. mario counters that with doraki + upB walljump, dair floor hit and much more platform stuff. thats ignoring marios general combo speed compared to docs, fireball stuff and actually being able to combo and shield pressure off bair waveland. doc can SP with his, but its not anywhere near as good because he cant really poke the shield (once he was wavelanded behind it)with a strong nair.

 

[Doc King]

This might look a little off but I think it's overall pretty good.
1. Ice Climbers
2. Fox
3. Falco
4. Samus
5. Ness
6. Sheik
7. Mewtwo
8. Yoshi
9. Doc
10. Ganon
11. Falcon
12. Mario
13. Link
14. Y. Link
15. Luigi
16. Peach
17. DK
18. Pikachu
19. Pichu
20. Zelda
21. Bowser
22. Roy
23. Marth
24. Jigglypuff
25. Mr. Game and Watch
26. Kirby

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

i'm tired of everyone saying pikachu takes more tech skill than pichu. I use scar jumps plus pichu's up-B things take much more extreme timing also most people don't know how to double up-B as pichu there are to ways one where you up-B up and trick the game by quickly going both right and left and you'll go up near impossible same as pikachu but pichu has another double up-B that goes farther to the upper left/right twice and mess up and you only jump once and die. but you hold upper right/left then press B then smash the same way at the right time it's a bit harder than it sounds.

plus perfect up-B stuff as pichu is much harder than anything pikachu can do. also pikachu's up-B being faster hardly changes anything try sweetspoting as pikachu is super easy then try as pichu you'll fail his sweet spot is so small you'll be inraged easily.

 

[JBM falcon08]

I agree with druggedfox. Dexterity>timing.

Fox
Falco
Ics
Samus
The rest is blurry.

 

[j3ly]

7. Mewtwo
8. Yoshi
9. Doc
10. Ganon
11. Falcon
12. Mario
13. Link
14. Y. Link
15. Luigi
16. Peach


i disagree with every placement in this section of this list.
not necessarily the numbers, but the order of chars within the numbers.

if mewtwo and yoshi are technical chars for the same reasons, then yoshi is > mewtwo in technicality cause he needs to do more of the same thing to combo.

analyse a ganons APM and a falcons APM. falcon is easily more technical! ganon has a few wierd tricks, but they are just those - tricks.

 

[Leviathan741]

This might look a little off but I think it's overall pretty good.
1. Ice Climbers
2. Fox
3. Falco
4. Samus
5. Ness
6. Sheik
7. Mewtwo
8. Yoshi
9. Doc
10. Ganon
11. Falcon
12. Mario
13. Link
14. Y. Link
15. Luigi
16. Peach
17. DK
18. Pikachu
19. Pichu
20. Zelda
21. Bowser
22. Roy
23. Marth
24. Jigglypuff
25. Mr. Game and Watch
26. Kirby

Dude, everytime you post anywhere in any thread its almost trolling because you have no idea what you are talking about.......

ROY above marth??????????????????????????? Ganon Doc and mewtwo above falcon??? Hey at least you didn't say peach was 16th on the list... oh wait.. you did. Hey at least you didn't say that sheik was 6th on the list... oh wait lol. Hey I remember that you said that Ganon had the best edgeguarding ability in the game in the edge guard tier list lol.

 

[Signia]

yeah I you're right mario is more technical than doc. Thought maybe pills added a layer of difficulty mario didn't have. forgot about pichu's techniques.

 

[BEES]

It seems to me that Falcon is about the same amount of work as Fox and Falco when I switch between them. The stuff you're not doing with the right hand seems to move over to the left hand.

 

[Leviathan741]

It seems to me that Falcon is about the same amount of work as Fox and Falco when I switch between them. The stuff you're not doing with the right hand seems to move over to the left hand.

Well, I main falcon, and play falco decently, but I can tell you that falcon is not on their tech skill level...... although he isn't that far away either...

 

[Roneblaster]

fox
ic's
falco/falcon
falco/falcon
doesnt matter

cool samus tech skill, now try that **** in game and see if you dont get ****-stomped.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

IC
fox
falco
peach
samus
young link
falcon

 

[slartibartfast42]

*insert characters here*
23. Marth
24. Jigglypuff
25. Zelda
26. Sheik

(only somewhat kidding. Zelda is probably bottom, she requires no techskill, good zeldas don't need to wavedash or even l-cancel really. If you can sweetspot her fair/bair, you can play zelda.)

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

spaceing is tech skill same with always autocanceling and rest out of sheild isn't always the easiest and rising pound is more techincal than anything kirby does other than maybe WD back up-tilt.

marth has double fair/fair upair or fair WL. sheik has needle cancels, shino stall, and up-B to edge. mostly edge stuff. like zedla is the only one I think that has no tech skill fun other than moonwalking

 

[Kanelol]

fox
cool samus tech skill, now try that **** in game and see if you dont get ****-stomped.

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