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Money is Everything.

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Money defines what you do, what you CAN do, who will you know, what you know, you social life, social status, what you can learn, how you do stuff and how often.

Money is for what we live for, why we study, work and play(in the case of tourneys and in smashboards terms. We live to "get money" then waste it, get more again and that's it.

I hate money. It just separates "social levels" and stupid stuff.

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That's a bit of my rant :S
 

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Money also brings happiness.

Has anyone honestly seen a homeless person smile without being in the middle of a hallucination?
 

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Money is curbs our instinctive craving for resources. An experiment suggested pretty strongly that just holding/handling a banknote can relax you and improve your mood, as well as slightly alleviate hunger lol.

Thing is, although it's cliché and overexaggerated, money truly isn't everything. True friendship can't be bought, and while money can make you happy, being born rich and having everything at your fingertips can make you world weary very quickly. A lot of wealthy people can also end up depressed and taking drugs or becoming alcoholics.

Integrity and reputation can't be forged with money, although of course, money will play a part in the latter. So yeah, money is what the world revolves around in general, but it doesn't truly defne everything about our lives and who we are.
 

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Its always bugged me how so many people, the sole defining aspect of their lives and all their decisions, are based on attaining more of an artificial thing we created out of nothing. It doesnt give us many options though since were effetively extorted for it our entire lives, you cant do anything without it.

Now before anyone jumps down my throat about how naive the idea that striving for money is a bad thing is, I just wonder what is it exactly that made us create it. Is it a natural result of increasing intelligence that any species would seek to quantify and value the ownership of everything they could ever need? I think a lot of it starts from the idea that we think we simply own the earth without question. People set foot on an island, decalre it theirs and put a price on it, theres nothing you can do. Same for animals/trees. A tree in the forest isnt worth anything until a human decides that they OWN that tree and can do whatever they want, cut it down + sell wood etc. Lets not forget the ownership of other humans too.

Yeah I know it makes me sound like a hippie but w/e. It will forever bug me how some people can simply decide to live a selfish lifestyle and do whatever they want without regard for ANYTHING for the future of this planet or any other humans benefit (ffff bank CEOs prime example, inventing fees that DO NOT EXIST, making millions of dollars and screwing everyone over), but we have absolutely no choice but to accept it.

Obviously we NEED money to function as a society to cater for everyones different abilities, work ethic and all that stuff. I do wonder though, if by some tiny change in our DNA etc, what a world would be like if we didnt construct money. Is it purely greed, or a neccesity for our continued advancement as a species? Most probably the latter, but still I do wonder.
 

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after seeing those posts, maybe how people were born and in the enviroment they were born might change their perspective about this.

Example:

I was raised my mom alone and with my 2 big brothers. We didnt have that much, just food and the basic stuff to survive, but then I look at other people my age right now who's parents have great jobs etc etc and their social life are awesome and those stuff, while mine is just college(thanks to scholarship for having a high GPA and being handicaped(one of my feet) and get back home :S cuz I havent found a job in ages :S no car , etc etc.( I know other people have it worst)

The thing that obv the "kids" with the parents with nice jobs will have high % of having a car at my age and stuff. So probably at their point of view in life " Money is not that important". and etc etc.

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yeah it brings happiness too, is just that just like money not everyone can have it at the same time.
 

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And those who say money doesn't buy happiness obviously don't have enough!
 

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If you hate money, then naturally you must be in favor of an economic system where we hoard all our resources at home and carry it with us when we want to trade... because those resources are what money represents.
 

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Also, the the statement "money cant buy friendship" doesnt exactly discredit the statement that money can buy happiness. More so, of all things in the world, money is legitimately the most important. Friends can make you happy, money buys you food and housing. Personally I consider being alive more important than having friends.
 

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OK I cant resist...

But isnt it an obvious conclusion that being alive is more important than having friends? What good is being popular when youre dead... >_>
 
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Money's value could be argued to be based on perspective.

E.g. a dog could care less about a note of money lying on the ground (unless it had been conditioned to associate finding money with receiving praise or a treat... but let's not get into technicalities).

More realistically, if a person who hailed from a culture where an unregulated bartering system was still in use, i.e. I'll trade you three cows for a kilogram of gold, then I'll trade that kilogram of gold for salt, then that salt for five baskets of apples, etc. came across a U.S. note, or any note for that matter, he wouldn't care about it either, because a slip of paper would likely be worthless in the bartering system.
 
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me said:
unregulated bartering system.
Money is regulated by a government, what you're talking about isn't exactly what I was talking about.

Think of how children, upon opening their lunch boxes and finding something unfavorable, will sit in the cafeteria and say stuff along the lines of "I'll trade you my candy bar for your pudding cup," or "I'll trade you my tuna sandwich for your chicken sandwich." Except it's not children, it's adults. And their society doesn't use currency for the majority of/legal transactions.
 

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We shouldn't live JUST for money. Money comes by through lots of hard work, luck, etc. We'll all eventually die anyway and have no say in how our money and possessions will be used afterwards. While we're here, why don't we just enjoy life with our loved ones with what we're able to have.

It'd be a crappy life to be miserable working constantly to live in a fancier house, eat more expensive food to just die. There's always something nicer and better than what someone has or can afford, so in a way it's meaningless because eating is eating and shelter is shelter.

That being said, I could definitely use some more money right now.
 

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Yup, do the best that you know how and what you have to make money; just try and not let it control you. I definitely know a thing or two about being poor, at least in regards to America.
 

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It'd be a crappy life to be miserable working constantly to live in a fancier house, eat more expensive food to just die. There's always something nicer and better than what someone has or can afford, so in a way it's meaningless because eating is eating and shelter is shelter.
Yes! I want to have a small family with a decent house and reliable car(s). I don't want to be one of those fathers who works 70 hours a week with nothing to look forward to but football on Sunday. Hopefully college will help with that.

You can't ever forget the people who are in your life, your passions, etc. at the cost of making more money. At least that's how I see it.
 

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Statistics have shown that the poorer countries with the most suffering have the highest levels of happiness, and that developed countries have higher suicide rates.
 

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The world COULD work just as well without money.

It's just no one wants to achieve such greatness because it's all about having more and more.

If everyone just worked at what they liked best or were best at, for no wage, yet you could have almost anything you wanted for free.

Would that not work?
 

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The world COULD work just as well without money.

It's just no one wants to achieve such greatness because it's all about having more and more.

If everyone just worked at what they liked best or were best at, for no wage, yet you could have almost anything you wanted for free.

Would that not work?
who would do the dirty work? unless you're telling me that people like being garbagemen without pay...
 

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How would people go about obtaining anything they wanted for free? An all controlling and perfect government? Even if it were possible, if people had everything they wanted regardless of what they did, people would be unmotivated to work harder than others or even perform difficult tasks. Instead of studying to become a doctor to save people's lives, the ideal job would now to be the greeter at wal-mart Free-mart.
 

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Statistics have shown that the poorer countries with the most suffering have the highest levels of happiness, and that developed countries have higher suicide rates.
That's because they're ignorant.

We are fully aware of all these things in the worlds that we COULD have but don't.

In poorer countries where they're all in shacks and mud huts, they got no clue what they're missing, so they don't care! They have family, friends, they might get ill and might go hungry from time to time, but they have the basic things there for a person's emotional wellbeing.

The developed world is a giant system of mental torture, but tbh, I'd still wouldn't trade this life for ignorant happiness because ignorance sucks.
 

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who would do the dirty work? unless you're telling me that people like being garbagemen without pay...
People who don't get good jobs still won't have good jobs.

A series of mandatory aptitude tests would determine your capabilities and whether or not your capable of a certain job.

If you don't work you don't get squat, just like having no money in the real world.

The only drive would be to work as something, anything, to have what you want.

Obviously it's insanely idealistic, but it's fun to think about different ways of running the world.
 

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Statistics have shown that the poorer countries with the most suffering have the highest levels of happiness, and that developed countries have higher suicide rates.
If that's true, it's probably related to the lower rates of depression also seen in people from lower income levels compared to the middle or upper class. Being a member of the working poor doesn't give you a whole lot of time to feel sorry for yourself. Self-esteem doesn't matter much either when someone has the fire lit under your *ss, or when you have a gun at your back.

Not to mention that you learn to appreciate food more after you know what it's like to go hungry.

I think, to a certain degree, humanity is shaped by misery. We evolved from harsh environments; our lives used to be guided strictly by survival. But the moment we get just a little bit more than what we absolutely need to survive, we don't know what to do with ourselves. We waste our time, our lives, because without the cold, the beasts, the hunger, the persistent threat of death, we don't know what our lives are worth.

/rambling
 
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