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Money is Everything.

just86

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Money isn't everything and it isn't nothing. To the extent that money can prevent the type of miserable poverty that makes life just plain horrible, it is an extremely important thing. However, excessive greed has led to (in this country in particular) the singular pursuit of money to the extent that it harms the monetary well being of many of their fellow citizens. It is positively shameful how top executives will take bonus money that could be used to pay for the salaries of employees they're laying off in droves. I hope we can find a comfortable middle ground between poverty and exploitation.
 

GrifMoNeY

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Virgil Klunder: "Money can't buy happiness, but it can make misery more fun."

I invite you to try being sad while you're jetskiing or skydiving.

Money is an enabler. It gives corrupt people power and it gives good people options. If you were a jerkface before, now you're a jerkface with a shiny car. If you were a nerd before, now you're a nerd with all the consoles and games he ever wanted. But what happens when you get everything you've ever wanted? You begin to want something more. And that is the beauty of the human condition.

People with money soon realize how futile it is to be materialistic. They seek to enrich their lives in other ways, and will often USE their money to help them along. For example, you can't buy friends, but you can buy a membership into a high-class dining club. You can impress men and women alike and provide everything you need to in a family (without spoiling the kids, of course.) You can go rock climbing with the $150 shoes, you can go back to college for psychology, you can travel the world and the US, you can visit any friend you want anytime you want, and take them out to dinner when you think they need cheering up.

But if you are working for your money, you will not get very much.

Work to gain experience. Expand your social skills and gain those work connections. Surround yourself with businessmen who are smarter and more successful than you, and learn from them the secrets of success. Don't be discouraged by temporary defeat. Successful people see opportunities everywhere, even in failure. The absolute, most critical key is to learn how to set goals, how to motivate yourself, and how to reach them.

Zig Ziglar once told us that he can take anyone and make them shoot better than the best archer in the world--provided of course he blindfolded that archer and spun him around so many times that he didn't know where the target was. "But Zig, how can anyone hit a target they can't see?" A better question is, how can you hit a target that does not exist? The only way to achieve success is to have well-defined written-down goals.



Sorry, I'm also a success coach and anytime I talk about money I tend to digress.
 

condemned_soul

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dude there are some exceptions to this but dude money is the key to happiness. i bet if you take a group of your friends and asked them if any of them are sick of money, only a few (if not none) will say yes. Money will also show a person's true color so money is a curse as much as it is a gift.
 

jiovanni007

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Money isn't everything but it is a lot. That's just the way the world we live in works. Money does however undermine progress. In our society people live, study and strive for money. Any college student that's studying to become a doctor will tell you that they want to help people but that's just a pre-programmed response. It's for the money. There are plenty of other ways you can help a multitude of people without making $250k+ a year. We all work for money and you just have to accept that. Why do you think our fuel is predominantly oil based?
 

GrifMoNeY

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It is my belief that if oil prices shot up to $800 a barrel and stayed there (current rate is $88), we would have alternative energy within the month. However it would come at a significant cost of manhours, equipment, and research. The trade-off would be worth it in this case.

As for becoming a doctor, you do the things you ought to do when you ought to do them, and the day will come when you do the things you want to do when you want to do them. If a truly good doctor found themselves with a FREE $1m/yr salary, he would probably open the best-equipped free clinic on Earth. I'm almost certain things like this have happened in the past.
 

§witch

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I love idealists. It must be nice to think that we CAN change everything. And that all the problems in the would CAN be CHANGED through wishful thinking and a whole lot of *****ing.
 

Mr.Freeman

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I love idealists. It must be nice to think that we CAN change everything. And that all the problems in the would CAN be CHANGED through wishful thinking and a whole lot of *****ing.
Its better than being depressed and moody about everything. Not that thinking everything can be a perfect utopia is right.

Otherwise it'd be that point in time where we'd be something boring and genderless, flying around on hoverhairs with lasers on them.
 
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Money buys happiness to a point. That point is where you're no longer (significantly) financially restricted. Like you have enough to buy food, pay rent/bills, go out and do something like go to the movies

It isn't what you have that makes you happier, it's what you do. People reminisce about events because events don't last. The value of that individual event is so high because quantity is scarce. Whereas if you compare that to owning material wealth, you have such a high quantity of using/acessing it. The value of an individual time using that something is greatly deminished because you can use it any other time. No difference
 

ook

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It's like games where you grind a lot (or use cheats) to reach level 100. It's kinda fun when you're working towards it, but then once you get to that point and have pretty much unlimited everything, the game seems kinda shallow. Stuff was more satisfying at the beginning when you actually had to manage your health bars and ammo to survive.
Money is like the health/ammo of real life. You need it, and sometimes it sucks when you're so low level that you can only fight once before you have to go back to heal. But never having to worry about it would get boring fast.
 

Dre89

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I love idealists. It must be nice to think that we CAN change everything. And that all the problems in the would CAN be CHANGED through wishful thinking and a whole lot of *****ing.
Have to say though, generally the people who make the biggest changes in the world are the ones who believe that they can change it, and the ones who change it the least are the ones with your attitude.

Again, on an unrelated note, I don't see how money is everything, when statistics show that the countries with the most money have the highest suicide rates, and the countries with the leasr money have the highest rates of happiness.
 

El Nino

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Have to say though, generally the people who make the biggest changes in the world are the ones who believe that they can change it, and the ones who change it the least are the ones with your attitude.
No one does it alone. I think an idealist still needs a handful of realists in his corner.

Again, on an unrelated note, I don't see how money is everything, when statistics show that the countries with the most money have the highest suicide rates, and the countries with the leasr money have the highest rates of happiness.
Think of it as Maslow's hierarchy. You need the "basic needs" met before you can have the rest. It's hard to have the basics without money, in modern societies.

Also, some people don't commit suicide, but they drink themselves until their livers give out. It won't be counted as a suicide, but alcohol is prozac for people who can't afford prozac. The same applies to other chemical addictions.

Money isn't everything, but it's the foundation for a lot of things, including "happiness," however you define it.

edit:
http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suiciderates/en/

The highest suicide rate I see is for Russia, for the year 2000, and they are not really among the wealthiest nations.

At the start of transition, roughly half the population of households fell below the poverty line. While this has subsequently declined, at end-1996 nearly 40 per cent of households were below the poverty line and a substantial stratum of households were locked in chronic poverty.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1468-0351.00019/abstract
 

SuperBowser

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This topic reminds me of Mother 3 (the one with Lucas!). Anyone played that game? The citizens of the idyllic village the game starts in had no concept of money. I really liked the way it depicted the villager's reaction when he was introduced to "money" for the first time. He hid his new found gold from others because he perceived it to be valuable - he didn't know why it was special but he didn't want to share it.

I read a book a couple of months ago (need to find the title again) that made an interesting claim. Supposedly there is a strong correlation between level of inequality and unhappniess in Western countries. ie. those with the largest gaps between the rich and poor are the unhappiest. They suffer poorer health, greater crime etc. This is backed up by studies, statistics and graphs. The book postulated this could be for a couple of reasons (more complex than I say here): the rich become sad when they see the poor around them. The poor are sad because they feel cheated by the system they live in. Additionally, once you accumulate a certain amount of wealth, money no longer provides more happiness; getting a gold-plated bathtub is worthless. Maybe a little controversial, the book suggests societies should aim for a more even distrubution of wealth because this is when people are happiest.

We all need a basic level of wealth to increase our happiness. It's nice to have a nice house, to not worry about bills, to buy nice things like videogames, to occasionally go to restaurants or visit places, to afford an education, to have spare money for a rainy day. How much more you need if you can do all of those things? Dunno.

edit: the book was "The Spirit Level: why equality is better for everyone"
 
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