Mewtwo Patch (Version 1.0.6[7]) Thread [Updated: May 1st]

[TriTails]

If it was, don't you think we would've heard or been talking about it?

Sorry, I guess it was pretty obvious.

 

[HeavyLobster]

Technically it's not, if everyone was just a Mario clone then the game would be perfectly balanced.

says otherwise.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Ok for a general changes


Remember that you had to keep selecting your name over and over again in the wii u version after each mode

That is gone once you select a name it sticks until you turn off the wii u.



And number 2

Its more common to find custom specials/trophies in the game modes (The RNG for those has ben fixed its easier now)

 

[Shaya]

The first one is already in the list.
The second one reeks of confirmation bias, which is unfortunately inevitable when it comes to RNG within a game.

Yet again, either check properly to see if it's been listed or debunked or PROVIDE PROOF.

 

[ChickenJon]

Don't know if it's been stated or not yet, but G&W bucket fills completely with a single mewtwo shadowball.

Edit: Nvm, didn't realize this wasn't unnatural lol.

 

[Aidalator64]

On Twitter, Japanese player SnakeHeart is claiming that frame cancelling, which was previously only performable on hit, is now performable on shield as well. Can anyone confirm this?

Yes, please i'd like to know aswell! I've been practicing my frame-cancelled knees for ages now and i would like to know if my practice has become even more useful

On Twitter, Japanese player SnakeHeart is claiming that frame cancelling, which was previously only performable on hit, is now performable on shield as well. Can anyone confirm this?

Btw dude, where can i find this tweet?

 

[ぱみゅ]

If you have something to add to your post, use the "Edit" button at the bottom of it, please avoid double posting.

 

[Cool]

Did they do much to Sheik?

Her bair knockback was killed. Big hit to her game, honestly. We still got upsmash and bouncing fish though.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

says otherwise.

I didn't realise Dr Mario was a carbon copy clone :O

 

[~ Gheb ~]

G&W's up-tilt got a knockback direction change that makes it knock opponents behind him instead of above him.

It's always been that way. Make sure to set the CPU in training mode on 'control' though because it seems like CPUs always DI away in training mode now. G&W is unchanged.

 

[Thinkaman]

Even so, it'll be a while before we can get the data in a readable format like this, right? Somebody's gotta translate it into English. Both literally and figuratively.

I have a script that generates this. As soon as dant updates and runs his mastercore scripts and the 1.0.6 files are publicly facing, I can run mine.

 

[Runic_SSB]

Make sure to set the CPU in training mode on 'control' though because it seems like CPUs always DI away in training mode now.

Then how are we gonna test stuff on the 3DS?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You can still test stuff on the 3DS. You just need to know that CPUs tend to DI in training mode now which can lead you to falsely believe that some move have altered knockback. I'm pretty sure that's what happened to Peach's dthrow as well - I don't think the knockback is actually different, it's just the CPU that DIs away now.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Has anyone noted that the knockback angle of Jolt Haymaker for Mac was altered a bit? As seen here:

It's a knockback increase. Moves set to the angle of 361 hit people at higher angles the more knockback is applied.

 

[create314]

Yes, please i'd like to know aswell! I've been practicing my frame-cancelled knees for ages now and i would like to know if my practice has become even more useful


Btw dude, where can i find this tweet?

It's in this series of tweets: https://twitter.com/sh_ssb/status/589427118724939778, https://twitter.com/sh_ssb/status/589428583820472323, https://twitter.com/sh_ssb/status/589430229069758465, https://twitter.com/sh_ssb/status/589430874606686208, https://twitter.com/sh_ssb/status/589431765346877440.

Be warned, they are completely written in Japanese.

 

[Infinite901]

Why can't Villager pocket the springs anymore?

 

[CaptainZer0dew]

the springs from who?

 

[Krypton]

Why can't Villager pocket the springs anymore?

use your brain. He can't pocket trampoline because that was utterly unfair for Pac-Man, because it made his already predictable recovery nonexistant, and made Villager's already incredible recovery even better.

they did the same thing for Sonic, probably unintentionally.
edit: or for the same reason; more recovery for Villager.

 

[Sonsa]

use your brain. He can't pocket trampoline because that was utterly unfair for Pac-Man, because it made his already predictable recovery nonexistant, and made Villager's already incredible recovery even better.

they did the same thing for Sonic, probably unintentionally.
edit: or for the same reason; more recovery for Villager.

Actually it's because of a glitch causing Villager to teleport after Sonic or Pac-Man used another spring/trampoline.

 

[HeroMystic]

@ Thinkaman or anyone who still has the previous patch.

I need Mario's U-Smash to be tested. I've noticed it kills earlier and I'm hearing from others it kills 5% earlier.

 

[Luigi player]

ZSS up tilt was definitely nerfed. It's slower starting up and doesn't "suck in" opponents like it used to.

It's still frame 3, unless Sonics and Ness' jab are frame 4 now. It should also still hit the opponent diagonally upwards into her which should be the "sucking in" you're talking about?

 

[Lavani]

@ Thinkaman or anyone who still has the previous patch.

I need Mario's U-Smash to be tested. I've noticed it kills earlier and I'm hearing from others it kills 5% earlier.

Kills Mario at 123% on both 1.0.0 and 1.0.6 on 3DS FD with no DI.

 

[Bedoop]

A + B is now a Smash Attack

Well that WOULD be convenient for me
But I have "A" bound to B and "B" bound to X (With Jump being A and Y)
So
:I

 

[Ffamran]

Well that WOULD be convenient for me
But I have "A" bound to B and "B" bound to X (With Jump being A and Y)
So
:I

It automatically binds Smash and Attack together with whatever button configuration. So, for example, my Smash button is Y and Attack is X on the 3DS which would mean my "A + B" would be "X + Y". If I swap out B to Attack, then it'd be "B + Y".

 

[Lavani]

Also confirming the knockback buffs to usmash and dsmash.

Mario on 3DS FD, no DI:

Usmash: 112% → 105%
Dsmash: 120% → 116%

 

[Bedoop]

It automatically binds Smash and Attack together with whatever button configuration. So, for example, my Smash button is Y and Attack is X on the 3DS which would mean my "A + B" would be "X + Y". If I swap out B to Attack, then it'd be "B + Y".

My 2 attack buttons are on the opposite sides of eachother (Bottom for A, top for B) so I can't exactly do that without making my hand go in this weird position. :I
And I'm so used to that scheme, so changing it would screw me sideways :b

 

[TheReflexWonder]

People have their reasons for using and not using it. For example, Rosalina's ability to have Luma constantly Rapid Jab while using other moves is somewhat hindered by it.

 

[LightLV]

Hey it's been a minute! Smash 4 got updated, lets check those patch no-

...Oh....there's no patch notes?

...Good god, Nintendo. Did nobody tell them it's 2015 yet? What could possibly be the motive behind omitting character changes in patch notes other than being insufferably obnoxious?

 

[Runic_SSB]

I guess they don't want people dropping characters because of nerfs that they wouldn't have otherwise noticed. Either that or the placebo effect was intentional.

 

[Thunder_py]

CONFIRMED CHANGE

not to important though(i just wanna be famous)..

engine

· Display mode on wii u gamepad (char % or same as tv(a.k.a. off-tv)) will now persist after the first change
Important: When not using gamepad as controller !

obs.: Confirmed bc I play sometimes without tv and every time i played a match, character % were shown instead of off-tv mode, so my mind got used to touch the screen in order to play off tv, but know the second game already showed off-tv. Also this extents the amiibo-farm change to general play

 

[DanGR]

People have their reasons for using and not using it. For example, Rosalina's ability to have Luma constantly Rapid Jab while using other moves is somewhat hindered by it.

Specials cancel the desynched rapid jab anyways, so if you want to use them during the rapid jab you can just let go of "a" before using the special to get the same effect.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Specials cancel the desynched rapid jab anyways, so if you want to use them during the rapid jab you can just let go of "a" before using the special to get the same effect.

Life lessons. That's good to know.

 

[VodkaHaze]

No changes to Mr. Game & Watch? Interesting. I recently played some Smash with a gaming group and did damn well. There might have been minor buffs to G&W since I hadn't played Smash in a long time, or maybe I was actually on top form, or maybe both.

Also, my mate said that despite them trying to nerf Diddy, they actually buffed him because now his Uair has less knockback, so now even though he has less KO potential with that move, he can combo more with it.

 

[viewtifulduck82]

Villagers recovery got nerfed. It is now significantly harder to recover with one balloon. Forgive me if this was already brought up

 

[Omega Tyrant]

Nah before it was just severely slowed down with not as much distance

You're right, it does work like that if you pop while Villager is rising (my experience was from when Villager wasn't rising when a balloon was popped, which then kept him from regaining his momentum), but I just tested it in 1.0.6 against pre-patched, and it still works the same across both.

 

[-RedX-]

For the love of hax, @Dantarion needs to save us from this terrible plague of placebo.

 

[Moydow]

I have been unable to do glitch with Ness Wuhu Island.

We already know. Check the OP

Wuhu Island Boat instant-kill bug fixed (notable with Ness dthrow).

 

[t!MmY]

There's no mention of Yoshi's Egg Toss on the front page, so I thought I'd mention it here. It seems to me like it takes him longer before he can act out of an Egg Toss (Aerial, at least). It seems like a change to IASA (Interrupt timing).

Even though I'm not an in-depth Yoshi player this still seemed fairly obvious to me. A common Yoshi tactic was to Short Hop -> Egg Toss -> Nair so that Yoshi would be using a N-air right along with the Egg Toss. Now he cannot N-air until he almost hits the ground.

 

[Nysyr]

You know I could almost swear that all grabs were universally made longer, even Force Palm grab. This is just a feel thing though, and I'm not capable of testing differences.

 

[Chandeelure]

Patch 1.0.7 confirmed

2015年4月16日

『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ for Nintendo 3DS
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It says they will fix the Mewtwo bugs, but maybe they will change other things?
I doubt it, but you never know with Nintendo.