Meta Knight Officially Banned!

[M@v]

they will all do fine.

As stated before MK is not banned til after Apex

Reposting to stress this. Its optional until after Apex. It would be stupid to ban at apex due to all the international interest there already is.

 

[HoRnZ]

one of my enemys out of the way
one more to go :snakebrawl:

 

[Ghostbone]

Fighting games don't utilize stages, god ****ing damn it.

Yea they do

Spoiler

They're just all the same

Doesn't Soul Calibur have a few slightly different stages?

 

[Hippieslayer]

I wanna point out a few things, the first being that there's no way to be certain of the effect this will actually have. Regardless of whether or not it's positive though, it will certainly be interesting and a valuable experience for the community. This is why I think the people going and saying they know this is gonna suck are rather silly.

Furthermore there were some poor arguments from Ghebs side earlier on regarding how american Metaknight's measure up against those from the other scenes. The point was made that MK should not be banned because he doesn't dominate the other scenes in the same way as he does the American.

These argument fail because of two reasons:

1. A few players travelling and playing briefly in other scenes does not provide us with enough knownledge to judge how they measure up to one another. The whole subject is pointless to use as an argument because it is purely speculative.

2. The fact that MK might not dominate other scenes doesn't matter for the US metagame. Why base your own rules on the metagames of other scenes with which there is barely any interaction? Seriously, out of the total games played by US players how many % were against europeans or japanese? Why decide rules upon a nonexistant number?

 

[King Funk]

it didn't stop him. Dehf stopped him but Brood still had a problem with the matchup.

Anyone would have a problem with M2K playing to win.

Your point is not very valid.

 

[Sinji]

was this news posted on AllisBrawl?

 

[Moritaka]

Fighting games don't utilize stages, god ****ing damn it.

True, but Smash it's sometimes really ****** with that.

 

[xDD-Master]

one of my enemys out of the way
one more to go :snakebrawl:

Since when do you live in America?

 

[B.A.M.]

Fighting games don't utilize stages, god ****ing damn it.

wow you are a genius. Maybe you should check out other fighting games before coming to that conclusion. Virtual Fighter maybe? Smaller stages where you get to the corner sooner? There are differences, but they are negligible. I am stating why so. I also said Smash is unique in that sense but ultimately it should be about opponent x vs opponent y more than anything.

 

[Sinji]

True, but Smash it's sometimes really ****** with that.

Do you know the Fox player Dark. I see that your from Chile.

 

[t3h Icy]

I have never won a singles tournament

Bad.

10ApexStrifes

 

[xDD-Master]

Yea they do

Spoiler

They're just all the same

Doesn't Soul Calibur have a few slightly different stages?

Yes it has, Tekken too.

But its not as much as in Brawl I think, at least in Tekken.

In SC stages can make a big difference I think (Fall off or not - thats comparable to Walk off I think)

 

[Moritaka]

Yea they do

Spoiler

They're just all the same

Doesn't Soul Calibur have a few slightly different stages?

Yeah, but it's a minimum difference of space.

 

[B.A.M.]

THANK YOU. people who actually know something bout fighting games. lol Edit.

 

[Okuser]

Posting in a historic thread

I'm so happy that metaknight got banned... always wanted to switch mains to snake, now I have to!

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Sinji have your off topic conversations in VMs .

 

[Le vieux lapin]

THANK YOU. people who actually know something. Dude getting pissed when he doesnt know crap.

Might wanna edit bro.

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

I'm really curious what the top players all have to say about this as opposed to the general public (which just gives me a headache).

 

[Juushichi]

The fact that you were comparing stages between the games means that you're ********.

There is no other way that I can express myself about this. I play multiple fighting games from 2D to 3D and your comment has made me react very similarly to me reading anything from SavemeJebus. You are inane.

 

[Gunnermaniac]

Aww man but I liked the MK matchup...

 

[Le vieux lapin]

I'm really curious what the top players all have to say about this as opposed to the general public (which just gives me a headache).

Yes to this.

 

[King Funk]

Hopefully attending Apex and seeing the last ever big Metaknight-allowed tournament. =(

 

[Alex Strife]

The ones I know ( Mike Haze / Tryant / and a few others ) disagree with it unless they post here otherwise

 

[Krynxe]

So, is there going to be a tier list that excludes MK matchups?

 

[t3h Icy]

The ones I know ( Mike Haze / Tryant / and a few others ) disagree with it unless they post here otherwise

Why would Tyrant disagree with it?

 

[Moritaka]

So, is there going to be a tier list that excludes MK matchups?

Yes, but it will affect in nothing.

 

[Divinokage]

Like I said, it doesn't change the matchups in anyway. Scrub players are still going to lose, I don't know why people get so happy expecting to win all of a sudden?

 

[xDD-Master]

The ones I know ( Mike Haze / Tryant / and a few others ) disagree with it unless they post here otherwise

I disagree too.

URC isnt even 1 MK main afaik, just felt like pointing that out ._."

 

[GOTM]

lol. i always thought you guys shoulda just played the game with the chars it had in it. if everyone used MK, w/e, thats the game you guys chose to play. play melee if it was really that bad, lol

 

[B.A.M.]

The fact that you were comparing stages between the games means that you're ********.

You can compare anything. That statement really makes no sense. And as someone already said in SC it makes a big difference in some cases. Again if you dont know about other fighters dont state things you dont know. And finally i said im making this comparison because im stating that its status quo that the stage should impede on the situations x vs y are making. You arent even getting my point.

 

[TSM ZeRo]

Could any URC member, tell me, why Brinstar and Rainbow Cruise are still counterpicks? I would love to know the reasoning behind this .

Off-Topic (Sorry):

Do you know the Fox player Dark. I see that your from Chile.

Dark used to live in the North End of Chile, in Arica (now he lives in Valparaiso for College I believe, and he doesn't play that much Melee anymore because of college, and he doesn't attend tournaments as well). Pretty much nobody knows Dark in real life, besides the players of the North end of Chile (Ghost, Star, Zant, etc.).

 

[Krynxe]

Well I don't play Brawl, was jw if characters will be considered 'better' without MK as a counter

 

[Sinji]

The Tier will be rearrange. Now that MK is gone Diddy and Snake will be focused on for spot #1

 

[M@v]

Bad.

10ApexStrifes

Way to conveniently leave out the rest of the post

 

[HoRnZ]

Like I said, it doesn't change the matchups in anyway. Scrub players are still going to lose, I don't know why people get so happy expecting to win all of a sudden?

it has a minor effect, on some characters (like d3, ics and some fattys who just get ***** by tornado)

 

[theONEjanitor]

Snake is first now.

this may happen but ONLY because of Ally (who will become unstoppable now).
Snake has wayyy too many unfavorable matchups to actually be the best character

 

[King Funk]

I remember someone comparing 64 Pikachu and Brawl MK in this thread, saying that Pikachu is not even as close to being as broken as MK in Brawl.

Let me say this to all those of you who might think the same: if smash 64 had a big competitive scene, people would be CRYING about Pikachu ALL THE TIME.

 

[t3h Icy]

I remember someone comparing 64 Pikachu and Brawl MK in this thread, saying that Pikachu is not even as close to being as broken as MK in Brawl.

Let me say this to all those of you who might think the same: if smash 64 had a big competitive scene, people would be CRYING about Pikachu ALL THE TIME.

No they wouldn't because when you combo Pikachu, he dies. Just like everyone else.

 

[B.A.M.]

@ghostbone: I definitely feel Brinstar's lava impedes on people. Especially because its been showcased its fairly arbitrary

 

[King Funk]

No they wouldn't because when you combo Pikachu, he dies. Just like everyone else.

Gimme your AIM I wanna teach you a lesson. =D

OR MSN!