Megaman X: Day of Death. ~ EVERYBODY DIED. SCUM WINS. GAME OVER.

[Terywj [태리]]

That's still the plan. They are saying if you're town and shoot boat, if he flips scum then JTB is most likely the remaining scum slot.

I'm aware of that, but.

For now, take a glance at the material I gathered and if you agree, place your vote on boat. If not explain why not.

I was referring to that.

 

[Gova]

1. Inferno3044 ()
2. JTB ()
4. Red Ryu (1) Boat
6. Analytical Buttheads ()
8. Nicholas1024 ()
10. Terywj (4) RR, AB, Inferno, Tery
12. Boatchouli (1) Nich
13. Frozenflame751 ()
Not voting - JTB, FF

With 8 playing, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is October 11th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

I'm aware of that, but.



I was referring to that.

You're at l-1 already, no need to place any more votes on you.

If boat refuses to hammer you, we lynch him directly and we'll deal with you slot toMorrow, so getting 3 votes on him in case will make things easier and provides a nice nudge for him to follow through.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up...uh, whoever said that.

lol

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up...uh, whoever said that.

lol

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm reading atm.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Page 40,

I'm obviously not going to hammer Tery if he had agreed to shoot me.

Why not?

So he's cleared and not just cop cleared? That's interesting. Share these posts please.

Beginning of D2.

Why is Tery more likely to be a mafia bomb than any other scum aligned role? He still doesn't want to get lynched and mafia bomb will activate regardless of his claim if he is. What do you gain by saying "In case of mafia bomb."

Didn't say it was more likely, I'm assuming mafia bomb as a safe claim is a possibility which is why I want you to hammer him.

I've done the math and lynching me today and Tery tomorrow does not end the game if Tery shoots scum. It puts us in 3 man LyLo the following day assuming no successful protects, so what are you getting at with that "DOOM AND DESTRUCTION SHOULD TERY LAST ANOTHER DAY!!!"

True, I did miscount, I still do not want Tery around.

If you don't care if Tery shoots you and I care if he shoots me, then we should just lynch you and then let Tery shoot JTB tomorrow.

I said if Tery makes the choice to I do not care, I want him to shoot you over anyone else at this point.

Ruy, you never linked me to that Raziek case that I asked for. I stand pretty sure on my accusation that it's a rip off of mine.

You must have a time machine because the posts I linked were from D1, you didn't do crap that day.

I've got him on Skype right now.

Originally, we looked at Raziek's position on the wagon and that was it. Then we actually read the game. you have our push Day 2 to look back at why. Go read Day 1 yourself and tell me you didn't see any off color **** so I can call you a liar. We thought he was the scummiest player Day 1 after that reread and that it overruled the position on the Circus wagon for the reasons we listed on Day 2.

Read above and see how this is related.

Boat slot is scum.

Gheb, will you eat a shoe for me if town wins with RR and JTB scum lynches and I flip town?

$50 via pay pal?

RR, in your own words, why is AB 'technically' mod-confirmed town?

Because of how the mod confirmed the color issues, still I think that should have ended in a mod kill, this is not speaking from an alignment based response for that note.

Regaurdless of that the whole issue makes me think AB is town. I think I used technically for FF if I recall.

Also, I want you to elaborate on your 1473. You say that by process of elimination, I have to be scum, but you still have Tery as a null read and Inferno/FF as 'most likely town'. Those are 3 people you dont have definite reads on, but you come to the conclusion that I have to be scum by PoE?

Inferno's doc claim makes me believe him. Considering who he targeted and how no one else has claimed a doc I can see it as being a real role.

If Boat flips town, I am for sure looking at you, though based on his responses I doubt it.

The three people are people I do no trust to be town, by PoE if one flips town I am going to look at you.

Tery is null, or rather was at the time. Now I have him as scum.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

When it all comes down to it, I still figure you're scum, so whatever.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Other than me think FF is town, Armored Armadillo matches BP, I think nothing else needs to be said.

Tery I know you think I am scum. but trust me. Shoot Boat if he lynches you. If not, I'm gonna jump on the AB plan to lynch Boat.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Just because I think you're scum doesn't mean I'm going to go for my own personal agenda over what I believe benefits town the most.

I may be a bad player but you don't have to try and put me down that low.

 

[Inferno3044]

OK, so Ryker isn't going to hammer Tery and we are at the 24 hour mark. Are we going to switch the lynch to him or can JTB hammer? Honestly, regardless of if he's a vengeful or a mafia bomb, we will have 2 question marks gone.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Yeah let's decide ASAP. I'm for either.

Inactivity has eaten this game alive.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Ryker passes the 20 hour mark without dropping the hammer, he dies instantly. I'll be here at 4:00 to check, I suggest you guys do the same.


Or without one hella of a case as to why he's town, we don't have time to fool around with this any more.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

unvote, vote: boat


Fell asleep.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

1. Voting behavior has been scummy as hell.
2. He lied about what he had read when he posted his votes and raziek and xatres, with the only realistic explanation being that he was trying to form a wagon to let off steam in town when they were all too willing to lynch him. The fact that he initially had Raziek as town especially illustrates this. What he hadn't read was enough of town's opinions to decide what was a good wagon to start.
3. Circus' interaction with Boat only makes sense with boat as scum with him.
4. Boat straddled the fence incredibly hard to avoid disqualifying anyone he could possibly lynch in the future up until as late as possible. Best explanation is that he's given up on those players.
5. His case against Raziek smells when you recognize that almost all his reasoning could be applied against FF. What's the difference between the two? FF isn't an easy target.
6. His random OS buddying doesn't make sense at all, especially considering he pushed the “still potentially scum” card in the same breath.
7. Extensive fake content from the slot, mainly the pictures, but also truly useless posts.
8. Extreme unwillingness to divulge reads unless pushed on it characterized last game day, but especially townreads. This feeds into point 4.
9. Odd relationship with Tery, likely scumteam with Tery as a mafia bomb is a strong possibility. The specific variation presumably kills their killer in terms of night actions and their hammerer.

You ******. You're stretching your post to be large and impressive because you want to lynch me not because I'm scummier than RR/JTB, but because you want to lynch me.

1.) So? I challenge you to look at the voting behavior of the other players left. At this point, you can make that case aimed at anyone. Voting patterns don't mean jack ****. Should I push you for your attempt to ditch the Circus wagon on Day 1?

Actually, someone go look at that as I have to try and get Hentai Mafia off the ground after this.

2.) That's funny. Yeah, I did. I am absolutely sure that everyone in this game has lied (as town) about how much they've read when they have a mountain of reading to do that they have not done. Why is it scummy? You only state that I did. You don't even go into why I could possibly look into one specific thing which goes to show that you are looking solely at what empowers your case instead of trying to analyze my motive. Take the blinders off and stop tunneling.

3.) WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM as both OS and myself have pointed out. It makes sense PRECISELY FOR THIS SITUATION! It also makes sense if he had previously expressed he was okay with me. It also makes sense if he thought I wouldn't be likely to vote for him. It also makes sense if he thought he would earn town credit for opposing a mislynch. The list goes on and on. Point three is a bald faced lie.

4.) I have no idea what this is in reference to. Elaborate in a couple of sentences on what this means.

5.) FF wasn't a possible target, are you ********? OS had him as town and hell if I could get FF lynched without MAJOR complications to my slot which was certainly not what I needed after coming in off of an inactive day.

6.) Because OS was making me laugh and supporting the idea of listening to me instead of continuing to write the slot off as scum because looking at pictures takes a small bit of deciphering. Again, please explain why this is a scum tell.

7.) WHAT!? There is one, ONE useless picture in this game and it comes with a pic unrelated warning because it was Megaman themed and I thought it was interesting. Do NOT push this bull****. Earlier in this game you said that the pictures were easy enough to decipher and the problem was that my slot didn't have enough content. I even agreed with that due to me being gone most of the early game.

As far as useless posts go, they don't fake contribution, they're there for my own ****s and giggles.

PLEASE do me a favor and explain how RR and JTB have made more contributions than I this game. I would LOVE to see you stumble over it and try to keep your blinders on.

8.) Or, you know, extreme lack of reads due to having not been involved with the game.

9.) I've already asked why you guys are up in arms about a mafia bomb as it doesn't make sense any more than the possibility of any mafia member having the possibility of being a bomb. I want Tery lynched before the game is over, but I don't want him shooting me. That's the extent of our "relationship."

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

GO READ THAT ****ING POST! IT'S IMPORTANT YOU DON'T SKIM THE DAMN THING!

Adum's case is ALL made with the conclusion that I am scum in mind before it's inception. EVERY POINT (except for 4 which I want him to restate) is either wrong, not incriminating, or fails to take into account the motivation a townie would have to do it. The entire basis for my lynch is WIFOM and it's unconvincing.

If Tery has to be lynched, he should shoot RR or JTB. Neither have done anything this game to warrant keeping them around. I am assuming that the mod isn't a ******* (big assumption) on AB's slot and I'm going out on a limb and am saying FF's slot isn't Godfather because I pretty much have to in order to be alive.

AB is NOT going to consider anything about RR/JTB, so I want EVERYONE ELSE's read on them and why they shouldn't be the ones to go today.

In the interest of time, anyone who wants to try and defend Adum's ****ty case can give it a go.

I'm not hammering Tery if it will lead to my death.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Do we still have an extension?

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

You ******. You're stretching your post to be large and impressive because you want to lynch me not because I'm scummier than RR/JTB, but because you want to lynch me.

1.) So? I challenge you to look at the voting behavior of the other players left. At this point, you can make that case aimed at anyone. Voting patterns don't mean jack ****. Should I push you for your attempt to ditch the Circus wagon on Day 1?

Actually, someone go look at that as I have to try and get Hentai Mafia off the ground after this.

2.) That's funny. Yeah, I did. I am absolutely sure that everyone in this game has lied (as town) about how much they've read when they have a mountain of reading to do that they have not done. Why is it scummy? You only state that I did. You don't even go into why I could possibly look into one specific thing which goes to show that you are looking solely at what empowers your case instead of trying to analyze my motive. Take the blinders off and stop tunneling.

3.) WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM as both OS and myself have pointed out. It makes sense PRECISELY FOR THIS SITUATION! It also makes sense if he had previously expressed he was okay with me. It also makes sense if he thought I wouldn't be likely to vote for him. It also makes sense if he thought he would earn town credit for opposing a mislynch. The list goes on and on. Point three is a bald faced lie.

4.) I have no idea what this is in reference to. Elaborate in a couple of sentences on what this means.

5.) FF wasn't a possible target, are you ********? OS had him as town and hell if I could get FF lynched without MAJOR complications to my slot which was certainly not what I needed after coming in off of an inactive day.

6.) Because OS was making me laugh and supporting the idea of listening to me instead of continuing to write the slot off as scum because looking at pictures takes a small bit of deciphering. Again, please explain why this is a scum tell.

7.) WHAT!? There is one, ONE useless picture in this game and it comes with a pic unrelated warning because it was Megaman themed and I thought it was interesting. Do NOT push this bull****. Earlier in this game you said that the pictures were easy enough to decipher and the problem was that my slot didn't have enough content. I even agreed with that due to me being gone most of the early game.

As far as useless posts go, they don't fake contribution, they're there for my own ****s and giggles.

PLEASE do me a favor and explain how RR and JTB have made more contributions than I this game. I would LOVE to see you stumble over it and try to keep your blinders on.

8.) Or, you know, extreme lack of reads due to having not been involved with the game.

9.) I've already asked why you guys are up in arms about a mafia bomb as it doesn't make sense any more than the possibility of any mafia member having the possibility of being a bomb. I want Tery lynched before the game is over, but I don't want him shooting me. That's the extent of our "relationship."

Pathetic, you haven't even touched on the evidence supporting the case. Your counter-argument is a joke.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

And if you weren't invested, why were you SO SURE that raziek was scum last game day?


And no, there is no extension in this game.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Since your case is WIFOM based, it takes explaining another point of view to debunk your case. To attack the bulk of your case is to seal my own fate because town will not read it and assume we will go back and forth until I am lynched by default. I'm not about to walk into that trap.

Because not being sure is a pain in the *** when it comes to presentation and persuasion. I'm sure you can relate at this point.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

Since your case is WIFOM based, it takes explaining another point of view to debunk your case. To attack the bulk of your case is to seal my own fate because town will not read it and assume we will go back and forth until I am lynched by default. I'm not about to walk into that trap.

Except that it isn't, the vast majority of my points have a clear scum motivation, and while it's POSSIBLE that this was all done by town (or that scum would treat a townie that way), the sheer bulk is stupidly scummy.

Because not being sure is a pain in the *** when it comes to presentation and persuasion. I'm sure you can relate at this point.

If you weren't sure then why did you push him?

 

[JTB]

AB, if you put your vote back on Tery, I'll hammer him. If he's mafia bomb, oh well, I die and you lynch Boat to win toMorrow.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Unvote
Vote: Boat

I didn't see him vote Tery at L-1. He's the play.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Erm scratch that.

Unvote
Vote: Tery

I'm fine with JTB putting down the hammer.

 

[Analytical Buttheads]

Alright, you're a potential scummate with both ryker and tery, so if he's a bomb your death is not quite as good as boat's but still great and assuming tery's not a bomb, he will execute boat and we'll be done here.


unvote, vote: tery

 

[JTB]

Vote: Tery

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hammer'd, now Tery shoots Boat if he is town and we're solid.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Did you SERIOUSLY just hammer before Nich got here or I got finished with RR and JTB?

Tery, shoot RR. If he flips town, I'm dead tomorrow anyway.

AB can't see the forest for the trees. He's refused to reanalyze RR and JTB and has made a case that is based on WIFOM and is passing it as if he has my motivation written in stone from the hand of God.

AB, there is a reason you are alive at this point with as good as a clear. It's because you're absolutely ZERO threat to the scum team this game, same as when I left Gheb alive in KSSU.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

JTB, you've been here this entire time and you STILL haven't answered me. Someone PLEASE hold this **** against him.

Getting to RR.

**** AB, not coming back to him.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Why not?

Because I help nothing with that.

Beginning of D2.

SPECIFIC POSTS!

Didn't say it was more likely, I'm assuming mafia bomb as a safe claim is a possibility which is why I want you to hammer him.

Mafia bomb safe claim? You are poisoning the water hole with the mafia bomb story. Where did the original suspicion come from?

True, I did miscount, I still do not want Tery around.

How should the day proceed tomorrow if Tery shoots you instead? I'd get those last words in just in case.

You must have a time machine because the posts I linked were from D1, you didn't do crap that day.

Quote the previous post after you're done with the rest of this one in case we run out of time.

If Boat flips town, I am for sure looking at you, though based on his responses I doubt it.

The three people are people I do no trust to be town, by PoE if one flips town I am going to look at you.

Tery is null, or rather was at the time. Now I have him as scum.

What will you do if I am shot by Tery and we both flip town. That leaves you with one suspect and the noose tightening around your neck even if JTB is lynched first.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Inferno, ****ING PROTECT NICH!

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Nich, if you have anything more to say, get it out now as I think you're probably dead regardless of town's night actions. If you have ANY information to put on the table, get it out there now.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I don't have any info I need to share regarding my role, although I will say that my character is Chill Penguin.

Regarding scumpicks, give me a minute or two. I'm not entirely convinced Ryker's the one who should be shot here, taking another look at AB's case and Ryker's defense.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ironically, in my role PM description, it says that, due to my personality, I don't get along well with Chill Penguin. Then Nich draws Chill Penguin. I personally find that hilarious.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Hm, I'm not convinced on this lynch.

@JTB
Why should we lynch Boat over you? I'd like to see a case against Boat from you in detail, because from what I remember your play has been pretty similar on the main points (inactive D1, against Raziek D2).

I want an answer to this, JTB.

Apologies, I've been working on a re-read this weekend and didn't bother to post. From what I've read so far, I know that my read on Boat has changed. Prior to toDay, my thoughts on Boat was that he placed his vote on Raziek and never really pushed it at all. His back and forth with Raziek immediately following that was Boat defending himself from Circus-wifom and I was under the impression that was the end of Boat's 'push' on Raziek when it wasn't at all.

I'll finish reading tonight and give more, but I'm not confident in a scumBoat atm.

RR, in your own words, why is AB 'technically' mod-confirmed town?

Also, I want you to elaborate on your 1473. You say that by process of elimination, I have to be scum, but you still have Tery as a null read and Inferno/FF as 'most likely town'. Those are 3 people you dont have definite reads on, but you come to the conclusion that I have to be scum by PoE?

Tery, I want your stances on every player.

Tery, give me your stances, don't make me ask again

AB, if you put your vote back on Tery, I'll hammer him. If he's mafia bomb, oh well, I die and you lynch Boat to win toMorrow.

Vote: Tery

All of JTB's posts since Nich asked him something. I'm going to have to go digging further back to find him ignoring me.

 

[Inferno3044]

Inferno, ****ING PROTECT NICH!

got it.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Gheb, you're an idiot. Learn to read my slot as I can't remember the last time you were right about it. In fact, please cite the specific example.

JTB, stop lurking. You're trying to keep a low profile and continue not posting substance. Can Inferno still be scum and is he? Is FF cop cleared? If so, is he Godfather? Why am I scum? What has RR done this game? What have YOU done this game (yes, this is a chance for self WIFOM)?

There it is. It actually goes before Nich's question and there isn't another JTB post until after Nich's question.

HE AND RR ARE THE ONES WHO NEED TO DIE!

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

TERY, DON'T BE AN APATHETIC DOUCHE AND SHOOT WITHOUT READING THE POSTS THAT WERE MADE TODAY!

Alright?

 

[Nicholas1024]

Ironically, in my role PM description, it says that, due to my personality, I don't get along well with Chill Penguin. Then Nich draws Chill Penguin. I personally find that hilarious.

Heh.

I don't have a lot of time, so I'll make this quick, but I think JTB should at least be seriously considered for the shot.

The only one of AB's points that I found incriminating was the Circus interactions, but I think the WIFOM aspect prevents that from being enough.

Ryker's general unhelpfulness early on is basically exactly what he did in Time Travelers, and the whole "He doesn't volunteer many town reads and is okay with half the game dying" fits his play from there almost exactly, he was okay with just about anyone aside from himself/Nabe/PLSD dying late D1.

As to JTB, I need to take a look at why he hopped on Raziek, because it's FAR scummier to agree with a bad case than to make the bad case, the person making the case can often tunnel, and are often biased to think the case is better than it really is (trust me, it used to happen to me all the time.) To independently agree with a bad case is much scummier, and I want to take a look at JTB's reasoning.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I'm a bit surprised that Raziek isn't coming under more scrutiny. His whole 'case' on Boat started with an OMGUS vote. I wholeheartedly disagree with him "helping" get the Circus wagon off the ground, all he did was put his vote on him and just spout off one-liners that don't really do anything to push the wagon (Example 1, Example 2). The reason I bring this up is because Raziek continues to question people's scum reads on him and tries to refute them with this reasoning.

His later case on Boat doesn't sit well with me at all. Like, it's good and all to review a flipped scums posts for connections, but making a case solely on connections is just reaching because trying to interpret Circus' intent behind his posts is essentially wifom. Where has Boat actually been scummy? 853 is also reaching for a connection between Circus and Boat, Circus had been defending Boat/pushing for his replacement, not trying to draw him as scum.

865 continues the trend of "I'm obvtown because I pushed Circus' lynch yesterDay." How is a vote on you anti-town at all? OS' vote on you at the start of D2 got us reactions we probably wouldn't had seen otherwise.

879 is completely ********. Get off your high throne, you are not as townie as you think you are, regardless of what others say.

So where do I stand toDay? I would prefer a Raziek lynch over Boat. tl;dr version, Raziek has been pushing Boat solely on connections with Circus and is constantly referring to the Circus wagon as proof that everyone should have a town read on him.

Xatres' last post just reeks of reaching arguments and WIFOM (OS setting up Tery as a bomb to get reactions?). He states he doesn't like people claiming early, but goes on to claim that he knows theres a mafia role cop and won't tell us why he knows this. All this does is confuse town even more.

I'm willing to trust Tery's claim because I don't believe he is that ballsy as a player to do that as scum. I don't see a reason to lynch him toDay.

Vote: Raziek

This is JTB's jump on Raziek for reference.