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Megaman X: Day of Death. ~ EVERYBODY DIED. SCUM WINS. GAME OVER.

Nicholas1024

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One last note before I go, if you look at claims then JTB's is clearly the weakest, he claimed Gravity Beetle, a Megaman X3 maverick, when most of the roles here are from Megaman X1. How much stock you put into that depends on how much you're willing to go on mod meta, but still, Circus's safe claim (Velgarder, Sigma's dog in X1) was pretty weak.
 

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I read them. You're the only one voicing out me shooting RR, which I am completely okay with but nobody else has said anything on that or I'm just too groggy from waking up. I also have class in 45.
 

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I'm heading out too. JTB and RR need to respond.

Tery, dear Jesus, don't listen to the ******. If you notice, the only ones backing him are RR and JTB. You know, the scum team.
 

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****ing phone deleted post, writinh while at work quickly

Inferno may still be scum, see RO mafia

Ff unsure now, scum might haave shot nich n1, ff fake claiming bp to take credit

Ugh brb

:phone:
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I read them. You're the only one voicing out me shooting RR, which I am completely okay with but nobody else has said anything on that or I'm just too groggy from waking up. I also have class in 45.
Missed this. First off, no one is defending him. Second off, again the scum team +AB is on me. While Nich, FF, and myself are in favor of JTB. I just want RR more at the moment. I STILL want you shooting RR, but JTB is fine with the way he has completely avoided actually playing the game with other people.

While you're here, before either of us goes or the day ends. Why do YOU want me shot? Or do you? I can address that much since it's a rather immediate concern for me.
 

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****ing phone deleted post, writinh while at work quickly

Inferno may still be scum, see RO mafia

Ff unsure now, scum might haave shot nich n1, ff fake claiming bp to take credit

Ugh brb

:phone:
Yep, both could be scum, but it's unlikely. I like that you're opening options up past me since you have to get one more mislynch past AB's dumb ***. You're making me feel a lot more comfortable in my RR/JTB scum team.
 

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Also, I like the way you don't mention a read on RR at all. You just open up possibilities for further down the road.
 

Nicholas1024

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Yep, both could be scum, but it's unlikely. I like that you're opening options up past me since you have to get one more mislynch past AB's dumb ***. You're making me feel a lot more comfortable in my RR/JTB scum team.
Agree with this, scum HAS to widen the lynch pool past RR/JTB/Boat, because we can afford a mislynch, so if both scum are in there and we lynch all 3 we win.
 

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Boat, same two questions to you then wrt to ff and inferno.

Don't like RR and boat saying I have to be scum based on
PoE, especially boat after he flipped mafia jailer in ragnarok. Inferno/RR scum team would make sense if rr is really a roleblocker.

:phone:
 

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Did you SERIOUSLY just hammer before Nich got here or I got finished with RR and JTB?

Tery, shoot RR. If he flips town, I'm dead tomorrow anyway.

AB can't see the forest for the trees. He's refused to reanalyze RR and JTB and has made a case that is based on WIFOM and is passing it as if he has my motivation written in stone from the hand of God.

AB, there is a reason you are alive at this point with as good as a clear. It's because you're absolutely ZERO threat to the scum team this game, same as when I left Gheb alive in KSSU.
It's cause you delayed responding, we could've done this **** last night, we didn't have time to wait anymore.


Heh.

I don't have a lot of time, so I'll make this quick, but I think JTB should at least be seriously considered for the shot.

The only one of AB's points that I found incriminating was the Circus interactions, but I think the WIFOM aspect prevents that from being enough.

Ryker's general unhelpfulness early on is basically exactly what he did in Time Travelers, and the whole "He doesn't volunteer many town reads and is okay with half the game dying" fits his play from there almost exactly, he was okay with just about anyone aside from himself/Nabe/PLSD dying late D1.

As to JTB, I need to take a look at why he hopped on Raziek, because it's FAR scummier to agree with a bad case than to make the bad case, the person making the case can often tunnel, and are often biased to think the case is better than it really is (trust me, it used to happen to me all the time.) To independently agree with a bad case is much scummier, and I want to take a look at JTB's reasoning.
Nich, what the ****ing hell, he's attempting to garner last minute town points here, the circus issue was only part of it, look at how scummily safe he's been all game even when he did something.


He said he didn't have a strong read all game and pushed the raziek case anyway, what incentive did he have to do that beyond that he was the other popular target?
 

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Trigger finger on Red Ryu, but JTB is viable enough for me to switch. I still have 25-ish minutes to think about this.
Don't you DARE tery, he didn't even address the points in my case, the actual evidence. OS only covered a tiny portion of one point, the rest still stands.


Look at his play, you execute anyone other then boat and you will once again confirm how incredibly terrible you are at this game.
 

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Don't you DARE tery, he didn't even address the points in my case, the actual evidence. OS only covered a tiny portion of one point, the rest still stands.
WTF are you talking about. RR is town? What kinda bull**** is that?

Adumb said:
Look at his play, you execute anyone other then boat and you will once again confirm how incredibly terrible you are at this game.
Well you know what Adumb? Breaking news: I don't ****ing care. It's painfully obvious to EVERYONE how I don't know how to play this game, so you posing empty threats against me isn't doing jack ****.

I'm got ten minutes-ish.
 

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Seriously, he didn't address any of the evidence behind anything, the only explanation for his reading behavior during the xatres to raziek switch is blatantly self-serving, he admits that he pushed a case that he didn't have a solid read on, the only explanation being that he was the obvious other target.


No, enough's enough.


And then all the fake contributing.

Circus' behavior is just gravy.
 

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I personally think RR or boat are the best choices. I am confident that there is at least 1 scum slot between the two. If we shoot town then the one we don't shoot+JTB is the scum team.

:phone:
 

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So you're gonna ruin another game with last minute waffling? You KNOW you don't how to play, so trust me.
Wow, a sshat.

Why can't you see what's in front of you? I haven't even seen you ATTEMPT to evaluate RR or JTB.

You've blinded yourself to ANY other possibilities and are tunneling like you came straight from your first game of mafia. Step back, take a deep breath, and look at it from all sides. You are the only one of our psuedo clear crew who backs my lynch. The only others who are behind it over another alternative are ****ING RR AND JTB! Stop and smell the roses instead of ****ting the bed.
 

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what have I done? I didn't pull the trigger, but I built the gun.

The game is in stalement until tery comes to a decision.
 

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I DO WHAT I WANT FOO.

Also, since I'm skipping class (birfday!) I'll hang around longer.
You know that ryker has a talent for convincing weak players, especially last minute, I'm tired of this ****, I have the material.


Wow, a sshat.

Why can't you see what's in front of you? I haven't even seen you ATTEMPT to evaluate RR or JTB.

You've blinded yourself to ANY other possibilities and are tunneling like you came straight from your first game of mafia. Step back, take a deep breath, and look at it from all sides. You are the only one of our psuedo clear crew who backs my lynch. The only others who are behind it over another alternative are ****ING RR AND JTB! Stop and smell the roses instead of ****ting the bed.
You're positively lying.


Even at the tail end of my case against you I pointed out a reason to change my read on RR, originally I thought you two were scum together, before the post I quoted illustrated why that was unlikely.


Our slot (both myself and gheb) have posted reads on them a number of times, and when constructing your case I did a complete reread. I gave you a fair shot along with everyone else in the game, you just were BY FAR more scummy.


Also, FF supported your lynch, he just supports JTB more. Nich supports RR now.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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DUDE! I've asked you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many times in so many ways about RR and JTB. What your response was

"lol ryker obvscum

:059:"

I specifically said "over another alternative." It still shows that you are the only person who wants me shot the most because you think I'm scum. You're wrong.

Yes, I have the ability to convince people of things. I'd like to think I'm pretty good on that, but no, you don't have the material. I said it. THEN NICH SAID IT! You're case is bunk and you've made ZERO attempt to try and actually correct it after I posted my response to your tl;dr.
 

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You're continuing to keep your blindfold on and trying to tell me the sky is green. This time though, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and whining that I'm a liar.
 

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Because you didn't ACTUALLY address anything, even comparing my TL;DR to your response doesn't match up, saying that something is a response DOESN'T MAKE IT AN ACTUAL RESPONSE.


Yes, because we were concentrating on you, at the moment. we posted opinions on both throughout the entire game.
 

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The TL;DR isn't even the meat of the case, the meat is the evidence and the analysis posted in the actual case, if you can't even respond to the actual case, why should we take you seriously?


You didn't have to exchange walls, you could've listed point by point counter-evidence, but you didn't even read the wall, did you?
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Your.
Case.
Is.
Bunk.

Most of it is WIFOM. I simply provided an alternate explanation of motive that is equally plausible for most of the scenarios you listed.

If it's not the meat of the case, THEN SUM IT UP! The evidence and analysis you posted does NO ONE AT ALL ANY GOOD WHATSOEVER! It's meaning is lost in the number of words. Be concise and we can deal with it right here.

I can't go counter-point with you because THAT'S TRADING WALLS! The defendant loses at deadline when you go to trade walls and loses more often than not when it isn't the case. Remember J vs. EE in Pulp Fiction. No thank you.

Nope, I skimmed the wall. Just like everyone else.



Why in the WORLD would you post a tl;dr that ISN'T the meat of your case?

You are scrambling and hyper salty and are saying things that simply are not true with regards to how dealing with walls works and where the core of your case lies.
 

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The problem is that all you did was contradict it without providing any actual EVIDENCE as to why it was wrong, or not even address the actual point and address something totally different.
 

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Shoot Ryker already, he's been such a detriment to this game since Day 1, has been scummy as hell and the only thing you accomplish by keeping him around is to make toMorrow a repetition of this Day . Tery, why are you letting Ryker's last minutes AtE affect you so much? He's been stalling hard enough just make this a last-minute decision for you - how much more obvious could it get that he's only trying to make your decision as hard as possible [and not through him playing pro-town all of a sudden]?

If you really don't see why Ryker needs to die then think about whom you listen to. You can choose between the arguments of a vastly scummy player who's only goal is the stay alive now, or a semi-cleared player that has generally played a pro-town game who are looking for the NEST SOLUTION FOR THIS DAY. Think about what that means and then shoot Ryker.
 

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The problem is that all you did was contradict it without providing any actual EVIDENCE as to why it was wrong, or not even address the actual point and address something totally different.
Are you stupid or something? It's wrong because you have no way of proving that it is right.
 

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Shoot Ryker already, he's been such a detriment to this game since Day 1, has been scummy as hell and the only thing you accomplish by keeping him around is to make toMorrow a repetition of this Day . Tery, why are you letting Ryker's last minutes AtE affect you so much? He's been stalling hard enough just make this a last-minute decision for you - how much more obvious could it get that he's only trying to make your decision as hard as possible [and not through him playing pro-town all of a sudden]?
This is an AtE.

If you really don't see why Ryker needs to die then think about whom you listen to. You can choose between the arguments of a vastly scummy player who's only goal is the stay alive now, or a semi-cleared player that has generally played a pro-town game who are looking for the NEST SOLUTION FOR THIS DAY. Think about what that means and then shoot Ryker.
I second this.

AB is a semi-cleared player who only responds to me if it looks like you may not shoot me. JTB and RR are the scum team.

Nich is a semi-cleared player who has lead a lynch on scum. FF is a cop cleared player who is regarded as one of the best. I am a question mark.

Please Tery, listen to Gheb and look at who you're listening to.
 

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Gheb, how is this a better solution than shooting RR/JTB today and me if they flip town? Are you insinuating that every player who disagrees with you is not also seeking the best solution?
 

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Gheb, how is this a better solution than shooting RR/JTB today and me if they flip town? Are you insinuating that every player who disagrees with you is not also seeking the best solution?
No but you're the scummiest player alive.
 
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