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May 30-Florida Gaming's next HUGE brawl/melee tournament-Orlando FL SHIZ IS HERE!!!!

OverLade

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Hrnut gayness as far as not approaching doesn't win in MK dittos at the highest level I guarantee it. Mindgames > Gayness because you can always take advantage of human imperfection. If your opponent doesn't properly anticipate what you're going to do they can't just wait and intercept it.....
seibrik has the perfect list thats what all tourneys should be.

i think castle seige is gay and boring but there isnt enough reason for a ban so if i hosted a tourney i would still even have that stage legal. still no1 even CPs that stage its so useless
Nice avatar.

what im not understanding is why is mansion being banned?
Ummm SONIC PLAYERS TIMING PEOPLE OUT MABYE?
 

CO18

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add one more stage to the list pirate ship isnt that bad, the obstacles are easily avoidable
How is pirate ship not bad?

All pirate ship produces is top platform camping, water camping, bombs randomly exploding, wind changes, random areas where you can die under the ship(not sure exactly what they are) and the little flingy thing.

Its not a good stage at all and its not legal anywhere else it would be really dumb if we kept it. Pirate ship is worse than Luigis mansion/Norfair IMO possibly PS2.
 

HRNUT (Honey Roasted)

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hey if you don't hate me we can team, im being honorable and sticking to my word and my permateammate spike is totally cool with it, so you in?
 

FlatSoda

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Pirate ship is okay, but I do think the hazards in the stage are completely random. Unlike RC where the stage is in a constant scroll, and nothing random happens. The Bombs on Pirate Ship can launch at any given time, so can the little fling. Even when the Ship lands along the rocks is completely random. This is why RC > Pirate ship IMO.

The list brik brought up last was pretty decent, and Japes should be optional so we can see how it runs in tourneys. I mean we've done it for Pirate Ship/Norfair to finally come to a decision that they're not good CP stages. So we learn as we allow things. :lick:
 

petey_did_it

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pirate ship sux hrnut. the spring board is too ******** and no the bombs arent EASILY avoidable (just avoidable). and when u do get hit it hurts like hell and kills like a gimp. gay **** happens like crazy on that stage. a lot of gayness and campiness when u hit the rock too. the storm part is passable but still gay. oh and the water is gay. gay, gay, gay, gay; i can only say gay. its just gay
 

Fizzi

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Japes and RC are extremely common CPs vs Snake.

Some D3s also say that RC is bad for him. Personally I disagree, but w/e.
 

HRNUT (Honey Roasted)

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How is pirate ship not bad?

All pirate ship produces is top platform camping, water camping, bombs randomly exploding, wind changes, random areas where you can die under the ship(not sure exactly what they are) and the little flingy thing.

Its not a good stage at all and its not legal anywhere else it would be really dumb if we kept it. Pirate ship is worse than Luigis mansion/Norfair IMO possibly PS2.
Its not that bad, you can learn it instead of just thinking its bad nothing is overly random about the stage, everything comes with a fair warning

bombs-have a trail, easy to track, all you have to do to avoid them is double jump

flingy thing- when it comes up move away from it or shield

water- there is water on delphino, you can hit people who are in water without going in it

wind-you see the tornado in the background, it lifts the ship for about 20 seconds and lands

front of the ship-you gotta be ******** to get hit by that...just don't swim towards it...

its not bad at all, no one wants to learn it,

CO18 i know you hate the stage because its bad for D3 but nothing is wrong with that stage
 

CO18

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No Its just a really terrible stage which is the reason we're the ONLY region with the stage on. There is alot wrong with the stage compared to other stages.
It is in no way better than Luigi's mansion(Nothing random happens on this stage just promotes excessive camping), Norfair(Nothing really random on this stage, promotes camping once again and the obstacles are much easier to avoid then the ones on pirate ship) PS2(dumb stage).

It just promotes camping, is random, the bombs are not "easily" avoidable they are avoidable but definitley not easily. Even when Kei and I both were playing there in singles we Both got hit by the bombs and when the bombs do hit they rack up soo much damage/kill you its dumb. I got hit for like 80% then when he got hit he died. There are just so many bad aspects of the stage that adds up.

All that comes from it is camping and relying on a stage/banning a stage when the situation would be entirely different OOS.
 

HRNUT (Honey Roasted)

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lol, do you ever wonder why i don't ever get gayed by any stage obstacles when i take you there?

Cuz i learned the stage, i suggest everyone do the same, its not hard at all, but hey i'm not gonna argue...i know when im there i don't get hit by anything, the bombs are pretty easy to avoid but i guess that cuz i wear glasses i can actually see them flying toward the stage >_>

but everyone is entitled to their own opinions, we should just have a poll about what stages to allow and what not, i'd like for there to be at least something else in this region, i've been to OoS tourneys where Pictochat was legal and it wasn't bad at all like i thought it'd be, its w/e though...people don't wanna learn a stage so they complain about it, i don't wanna learn delphino or RC but i know that i'll have to...yeah...
 

CO18

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Ive played on pirate ship alot I dont get what there is to learn lol. Im not blind I can see the bombs its just hard to avoid when you're focusing on not getting hit by your opponent/chasing them as well.

Actually I think Kei tripped into the bomb if IIRC which is really dumb and stupid. (That can't be avoided lol)
Overall the stage is just not good tbh at all. Basically the sole reason people pick the stage is to camp which is dumb in itself. Whether camping on the top platform. Or having a character that can spike and water camping. There just isn't nothing good about the stage at all and its def worse than norfair/mansion and those aren't legal as well.
 

-Spike-

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hey if you don't hate me we can team, im being honorable and sticking to my word and my permateammate spike is totally cool with it, so you in?
Yea i said it was cool.... but fearless you owe me $1 from our MM at gigs! If i remember right i won the first match and then they said we had to go and u left without paying LOL. Im just messn, but we gotta finish the set!

~On a side note we should keep Pirate SHIP! It makes florida unique! If no pirate ship then Japes is a must!

Oh yea ... looking for partner for this anyone available?
 

HRNUT (Honey Roasted)

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...........................................................................Pirate Ship.....................Legal, Vericz, make it happen, by the way tripping is dumb, i tripped into walk off chaingrabs before doesn't mean we should ban the stage that it happened on, its a part of brawl...deal with it....bombs are easy to avoid...i don't get hit by them or the person that i'm fighting when it happens, i'm usually doing the hitting or just avoiding it altogether.......yep....mmmhhhmm....

I agree with spike
 

nevershootme

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Yea i said it was cool.... but fearless you owe me $1 from our MM at gigs! If i remember right i won the first match and then they said we had to go and u left without paying LOL. Im just messn, but we gotta finish the set!

~On a side note we should keep Pirate SHIP! It makes florida unique! If no pirate ship then Japes is a must!

Oh yea ... looking for partner for this anyone available?
spike, i'll have to take you up for an emergency raincheck because i got a feeling I won't find a partner befhorehand, but i'll accept and vouch since you did well teaming with Hrnut.
 

-Spike-

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spike, i'll have to take you up for an emergency raincheck because i got a feeling I won't find a partner befhorehand, but i'll accept and vouch since you did well teaming with Hrnut.
Mayb im just dumb as hell or its close to 1 am. so im tired , but I dont understand. Emergency raincheck... ill accept. So yea or in the abscence of ur partner yea?

I MM'd you? I remember mming raven but i don't remember mming you... for sure we'll finish the set if you said i lost the first match
im pretty sure it was you. Olimar vs pit on battlefield, but if it wasnt u its all good. I only had $1 and i was trying to double up lol.
 

Mickey69

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How about you don't act like a scrub?

Or you can money match me for 2000$ dollars?
The only one who is a scrub and actin like a scrub is you and im sure everyone sees it cuz you came at me outta no where and i dont see you winning any tournys so im sure ur broke @$$ cant afford a phuckin $2000 money match...
 

HRNUT (Honey Roasted)

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The only one who is a scrub and actin like a scrub is a scrub is you and im sure everyone sees it cuz you came at me outta no where and i dont see you winning any tournys so im sure ur broke @$$ cant afford a phuckin $2000 money match...
lmao, calm down, i think he was joking.................DAAAAMMMNNNN, lol
 

CO18

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I still think Pirate ship is a terrible stage lol and I still don't see any reason to have it's not nationally used only hurts us. I dont mind Japes much because the klaptrap isnt random and is alot more easily avoidable its pretty legit so I don't care if its legal or not. I know a good portion of oos tourneys has it legal.
 

nevershootme

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Mayb im just dumb as hell or its close to 1 am. so im tired , but I dont understand. Emergency raincheck... ill accept. So yea or in the abscence of ur partner yea?

l.
yea, i spoke to mampam if his brother can't make it, he'll team with me. but if he can't make it himself, i'll team with you. the raincheck was something random lol, but like the next tourney i come up we can team
 

-Spike-

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yea, i spoke to mampam if his brother can't make it, he'll team with me. but if he can't make it himself, i'll team with you. the raincheck was something random lol, but like the next tourney i come up we can team
Aight cool. Last minute partners if needed sounds good lol. But after fl gaming me and hrnut permateaming so idk if well ever have a chance. Good looking out tho!
 

Hai Im Fearless

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yeah spike i have no recollection whatsoever mming you but when you see me in person you should be sure if it was me or not ill take your word for it

even if i wasn't me i'm still down for a mm
 

CO18

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I doubt you mmed Fearless spike lol. I dont think you went to tourneys when he used to and I dont recall him being at any recent tourneys you were at.
 

FlatSoda

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last gigs i've been to, both were there and you co were not. (last i remember,)

i habeeb spike, ANYWAY

I heard japes is good for peach, I want to use it in tourney.
 

Fizzi

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I don't see how japes is good for peach... It's hard to kill on japes, and Peach already has enough trouble killing. I guess maybe she can camp the platforms pretty effectively, but so can anyone else with a projectile. The problem with japes is if you have a spamable projectile, you can stand on the platforms on the side, and in order to get to you... People have two options, they can jump towards you, or they can grab the edge and try doing something off the edge. Both are easy to see coming and puts the person approaching in an even more disadvantageous position than when you approach someone on a flat stage. Approaching is already disadvantageous enough as it is, no sense in making it even harder.

Not that we are the best players or anything, nor is this the end all be all to end the discussion... Also at the time D3 was my secondary, but anyways, if you go to about 5:30 in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crDblHofQsg Me(DDD) vs BentoBox(Peach) on Japes.
 

-Spike-

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last gigs i've been to, both were there and you co were not. (last i remember,)

i habeeb spike, ANYWAY

I heard japes is good for peach, I want to use it in tourney.
Yea i played him last gigs before they kicked us out. CO18 missed this gigs!

yeah spike i have no recollection whatsoever mming you but when you see me in person you should be sure if it was me or not ill take your word for it

even if i wasn't me i'm still down for a mm

I dont care about the MM i just wanna finish the set :(! Ill look for you and FL gaming. We can make it a friendly cuz the money dont really matter tome. We can start a new set just in case! Good luck with HRNUT!

~ Side note: Still need a teamate!
 

FlatSoda

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I don't see how japes is good for peach... It's hard to kill on japes, and Peach already has enough trouble killing. I guess maybe she can camp the platforms pretty effectively, but so can anyone else with a projectile. The problem with japes is if you have a spamable projectile, you can stand on the platforms on the side, and in order to get to you... People have two options, they can jump towards you, or they can grab the edge and try doing something off the edge. Both are easy to see coming and puts the person approaching in an even more disadvantageous position than when you approach someone on a flat stage. Approaching is already disadvantageous enough as it is, no sense in making it even harder.

Not that we are the best players or anything, nor is this the end all be all to end the discussion... Also at the time D3 was my secondary, but anyways, if you go to about 5:30 in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crDblHofQsg Me(DDD) vs BentoBox(Peach) on Japes.
ahh, the peach player didn't cover the best of options. I don't know, though. I'm gonna probably try to get some friendlies on this map to see how it goes. The platforms just seem (to me) to be a great advantage for peach. I have not tested, but good vid for observation.
 

Gindler

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I hate japes. People camp the right, I get near them, they jump in the water and retreat to the left. That gets so annoying. As for pirate ship, those bombs are easily avoidable if there aren't multiple people fighting, I've thrown people into those bombs before, sometimes they just do damage and don't send you anywhere, sometimes they do damage with insane knockback it's so random and makes no sense sometimes.
 

F Zero

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ALL THIS BRAWL TALK IS MAKING ME WANT TO SCREEEEEAAAM

UGH

So melee related: Legion wants to team with Uuaa, and I don't want to upset anybody. Does anyone want to team with me?
 

OverLade

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The only one who is a scrub and actin like a scrub is you and im sure everyone sees it cuz you came at me outta no where and i dont see you winning any tournys so im sure ur broke @$$ cant afford a phuckin $2000 money match...
Why do I need 2000$ when you have about a 0% change of beating me?

I was being mildly sarcastic but don't talk **** like you know me. Cuz I know enough about you to know that all you're good at is timing people out. :laugh::laugh:
 
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