Marth Q&A-Ask your questions here!!

[Imperial Wraith]

Your definantly right AS, i've fell for that a fair few times . My tech chasing is generally quite poor, I guess.

 

[brawlpro]

master that and pivot grab and us foxen will be no more...

 

[bulgarian_kid]

What works best in a marth ditto, other than f throw -> f throw -> f smash>

Also, how should you DI to try to get out of that throw to smash combo?

 

[shadydentist]

DI away. And marth combos himself fairly well with fairs.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

You are very wrong dentist, Di down at the lower %s and his throw combos become useless, not away.

What works best in marth dittos? Being gay...

 

[brawlpro]

haha, di diagonally down and away as if you would during a wavedash...

 

[shadydentist]

really? So i've been doing it wrong this entire time...

 

[brawlpro]

yea, thats the first step admiting it.

haha, di diagonally down and away as if you would during a wavedash...

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Di down and away at higher damages, di straight down at lower.

For the most part, down is safe.

 

[bulgarian_kid]

Thanks.

I would have been stuck always DI'ing away.

 

[Puffin]

When pivoting, is the FSmash the only attack you can pull out in the same direction you are dashing? I know I can dash toward someone, then hit away on the control stick and toward them on the C-Stick and it will work. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but for FTilts you have to dash, move the control stick part-way to the other side (just past center) and then press A, turning around. Jabbing is the same, but you let the control stick go to neutral before pressing A (I think).

Is that all correct?

 

[Dark Sonic]

Yes, that's all correct. F-smash is the only thing that you can actually pivot into attacking in the same direction you are facing. That's because the foward smash is the only standing move that you can turn around with while not actually using the control stick. If you use the flick method for pivoting then you can turn around and do other attacks because you're really just doing an empty pivot and then turning around.

 

[bulgarian_kid]

What can marth do against ganondorf out of a grab? What works at what percents?

My Marth game relies heavily on grabs, and when I was playing my friends ganon I didn't know what to do to combo him after a grab.

 

[brawlpro]

eh, uthrow > utilt him, iono if you meant what you can do after he throws you or what you can do after you throw him. And dtrow is a nice mind game. ha but i'm no marth main.

 

[bulgarian_kid]

u throw to up tilt only works in medium percents. And I meant what can I do after I throw him.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

He just answered you..and We can't answer every little nit pick question, you have to figure things out on your own, read my guideline thread and get an idea of this. We can't tell you exactly how to play the game.

Up-throw to up-tilt works depending on how long the ganon is going to let it work.

 

[bulgarian_kid]

ouch, that hurts.

sorry man.

Well, now I know better.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

I tried putting it nicely....

 

[bulgarian_kid]

Yeah, you were nice . I just have a habit of berating myself rather harhsly for making stupid mistakes, in addition to what anyone says.

I hate when I'm a dumb***.

 

[xyouxarexuglyx2]

When you SHFFL with Marth (f-air), do you do all three virtually at the same time (like, fair first and INSTANTLY ff and l-cancel)? Or do you do it the other way (f-air as you normally would, and then ff + l-cancel when you reach the peak of your jump or whenever you're done f-air'ing)

 

[Puffin]

When you pull on the aerial in a SHFFL is situational. Usually (especially when attacking a shield), you'll want to do the aerial as late as possible so you can run or attack again immediately after the aerial. However, if the opponent is right in your face, you'll want to aerial him at the start of the jump.

 

[Jeth]

The guys I play with now play as Marth (copy cats!) and they roll a lot too. The other one a lot more. Traveling distances with roll, basically. I don't get to play Smash a lot and still trying to incorporate the wavedashing and SHFFL more. And they beat me more than they really should...

Edit: Every time I play Smash after a week of two of no Smash action, I am always playing very lame in the beginning too. Gotta get Smash back on!

The one who travels with roll, he is very F-smash spammer, as well as standard B. I sometimes wavedash right into them D:

My SHFFL f-airs attempts don't always work because he'll just f-smash me which has higher priority. I tried intentionally missing as a mind game but he will just do another f-smash right away, most likely.

Any advice?

 

[UMBC Super Smasher]

Any advice?

Read Emblem Lord's sticky thread on "approaching with marth".

 

[Salaad]

The guys I play with now play as Marth (copy cats!) and they roll a lot too. The other one a lot more. Traveling distances with roll, basically. I don't get to play Smash a lot and still trying to incorporate the wavedashing and SHFFL more. And they beat me more than they really should...

Edit: Every time I play Smash after a week of two of no Smash action, I am always playing very lame in the beginning too. Gotta get Smash back on!

The one who travels with roll, he is very F-smash spammer, as well as standard B. I sometimes wavedash right into them D:

My SHFFL f-airs attempts don't always work because he'll just f-smash me which has higher priority. I tried intentionally missing as a mind game but he will just do another f-smash right away, most likely.

Any advice?

Run at him with a shield. If he Fsmashs, use the lag time to grab him. Or you can always fake him out with a dash dance.

 

[Imperial Wraith]

I need help! After going to a recent smashfest, i've discovered i'm absoultely appaling at recovering. Does anyone have any tips, other than saving your jump till last?

Like in a Marth Ditto, the other Marth lightsheilds on the edge, so I go for a sweetspot, and in responce when i'm too low to get back onto the stage itself he just hops off onto the edge . I die xD.

 

[Adi]

Use Over-B's to stall and Fairs to try to hit him on the edge. Also, saving your double jump and using it later is good, it's about da mindgames!

 

[AzureKiteSky]

Very true. saving your second jump for closer to the stage pretty much saves you from the question of how to get back up from a hanging position, which ususally leaves you open no matter what you do.

 

[Imperial Wraith]

Thanks alot for the advice . I already knew using over b's to stall and saving your second jump were good tactics, but what i'm really looking for are ways to mix up my recovery and stuff. (Does that sound as vague as I think it does)?.

 

[Salaad]

Does over b'ing away from the stage work?

 

[Ryusiodo]

Stupid question but do most of Marth's basic combos consist of just fairs, nairs, uptilts with a F-Smash or dair spike at the end. I'm slowly trying to get away from praciticing random shffling on computers and to learn combos for Marth.

Edit: Sorry if that isn't worded well. ^^ By basic I mean staple combos that basically all Marths use if there are any.

 

[Salaad]

I just make it up as I got along.

 

[AzureKiteSky]

Just another tip, when juggling with Marth, dont go too far out of your way to get directly under your oponent, as Marth's large swings make accurate juggling easy.

 

[knightpraetor]

sorry to bother again..but i've forgotten..does normal di not work on shines (fox's or falco's?) i just realized i always try for smash Di on falco's combos..i think i was told to do that..but why wouldn't normal di moe you out of the shines and away? i mean is that little bit of extra distance from smash di that important?

 

[Emblem Lord]

Normal DI works on shines and it's usually enough. Falco's combos are more about DIing away and teching.

But Smash DI is good for that extra distance.

I mean..is there is any reason to opt to not do what's better?

 

[knightpraetor]

i guess not..oh one more question..i don't understand stage normal rules

so random stage..if you win on it can you still use it as a counterpick? and you can keep counterpicking a stage till you win there? and the opponent could counter pick the same stage that you had already won as a counterpick (if they planned a different char matchup maybe)?

 

[Emblem Lord]

Dave's stupid rule would prevent all of what you just said.

Meaning you can't play the same stage in a set. Some tournies modify it so that you can't play the same stage in a row, but still be able to play the same stage as long as it's not in a row. My crew for example modifies Dave's stupid rule.

 

[brawlpro]

back to marth...

how the heck do i avoid falco's lasers?

 

[Emblem Lord]

I made a guide on that. It's stickied. >_>

 

[AzureKiteSky]

WDing and shuffling, not much more you can do, unless you are close enough for counterattacking to be effective.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Its amazing how obvious some things can be and people come right in and ask.. (No one pays our stickies any attention emblem! )

By the way, emblem, my computer crashed, I lost everything, I'm having to redownload everything..just now got yahoo back, I'll try to get aim somewhat soon.