stealth3654
Smash Lord
What happens if you FLUDD Snake while he is planing a mine?
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Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
He'll plant it while sliding unless it pushing him off the stage and then it just cancels the actions. God, wouldn't it be great if he went into free fall like when you FLUDD Link/Toon Link's spin attack or Zelda's Din's Fire off the stage? That's my main problem with Snake, getting the KO in... A vast majority of my matches with Snake are nail biters where probably 3/5 of the time I lose because I can't get the last kill in. Why... Why? Why does his recovery have to be so high? *cries himself to sleep*
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
It's even worst cuz Most snakes will DI up so they'll live forever lol.
I take back on entire moveset, his nikita doesn't get affected by fludd and has like gay ko potential since it killed me at 90% -_-.
I take back on entire moveset, his nikita doesn't get affected by fludd and has like gay ko potential since it killed me at 90% -_-.
Matt07
Smash Master
I had to read through like 3 pages, lol.
I've been studying for exams like crazy hence my...inactivity for a bit. I just got one more exam though so =P.
I've been studying for exams like crazy hence my...inactivity for a bit. I just got one more exam though so =P.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Snake has an ability to lose games?
condemned_soul
Smash Champion
whats the best combos to do against a snake player???
Yeah. He loses games to everyone but me.
condemned_soul
Smash Champion
that video was off the charts man that was amazing
Inferno3044
Smash Master
Well it depends. If you do it during the action where the plants the mine in the air, then you will push him and/or the mine. If he failed getting to the ledge with his recovery, he can use the C4 to give him a boost up. During that time if you make him explode upwards into the water, he will be unable to go above it and will fall for a bit. That can either kill them or have them try again which you can repeat or spike. I've actually killed some Snakes using the cape because they didnt know it got refreshed.
I think its called the famous combo. From 0% you can grab, dthrow, pivot grab, dthrow, pivot grab then finish it with whatever. Also, compared to our aerial game, Snake's isn't very good. Get him in the air and you can combo him there. Even if he pulls out the grenade, he will take more damage than you will assuming you hit him. The only thing extremely hard about him is that he is so freaking heavy and takes a long time to kill. He doesn't destroy Mario at all even with his broken tilts.
Kanzaki
Smash Champion
Grab release to spike works sometimes on Snake :D
I've done it to Mojoe and he was all O.O
I've done it to Mojoe and he was all O.O
Famous
Smash Champion
They sometimes spotdodge after grab release so you might have to throw out two Fairs...lol, it looks so funny
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
Utilt, Utilt, Utilt, Dair, Second Jump, Uair, Uair/Nair works very well on Snake from 0%. I do it a lot.
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
Holy **** my fish has been laying eggs all day, good thing I decided to change the water yesterday instead of today. </random>
DtJ XeroXen
The biggest fraud
Yeah, and there isn't any other fish in there either! She's gettin' it on with the snails!!!
condemned_soul
Smash Champion
yeah it works !!! thanx now all i have to do is train to play against MKs which has not been going so well. I just cant seem to be able to kill them.....its starting to suck
FrankPizzi
Smash Apprentice
Try using a Fully charged FLUDD + Up Smash (when MK is gliding back from outside the map.)
Matt07
Smash Master
Usually I try to keep dsmash unstale (because it's easy to hit MK with, and easy to KO him with because he's light) but it's so hard to keep it unstale, because it punishes a lot of MK's moves. Also what Frank said is true, if there gliding towards you just FLUDD it. Free usmash.
FrankPizzi
Smash Apprentice
I rarely Ko with D-smash... mostly my racker, I usually Ko with F-amsh, a gimp, a spike, a combo, a boss, a up smash, a back air, a sex kick, a up air. ( okay, that's enough)....
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Heh, I usually have no trouble unstaling my KO moves on most characters, but I have to say, Mario Dsmash is one I just can't seem to keep unstale. It's just too useful! However, UpB and Dsmash are interchangeable a lot of times (as a punishing option), so maybe you could keep it fresh by using more UpB?
Actually, UpB needs to get abused more in general...
Also, question: If MK does a grounded SL and you do a grounded SJP, which one wins?
Actually, UpB needs to get abused more in general...
Also, question: If MK does a grounded SL and you do a grounded SJP, which one wins?
Veggi
Smash Champion
Mario's would win because it is faster. If they have invincibility frames clash, I'd imagine they would just go through eachother. After that Mario's up b would win because it's a multihit move and MK has horrible priority after his invincibility as far as I can tell.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Okay, thanks.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Almost definitely Mario. MK's shuttle loop has invincibility on frame 5, whereas Mario's has invincibility frames 3-6. He also has a hitbox far earlier (MK's is frame 5, Mario's is 3). Unless Mario's real late to the party he should win this.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Also, in this matchup, I've noticed that fthrow becomes more useful than dthrow after about 30%. This is because, due to Snake's weight and lack of quick aerials, it gives you more of a chance to retaliate than if you do dthrow where you could be countered by his bair or even dair. It's also a good way to prepare you for edgeguarding or fireball camping.
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
I'd like to make a formal annoucement that, even though it's known but Mario and Luigi are made to be rapist in doubles. If Mario gets gimped, luigi can do a falling nair and pop up Mario in the air for a savior and still recover safely. Same with tornado. But I'm so scrub I can't do grab release to shoryuken or cape **** yet ugh lol.
MK's invincibility is only on frame 5?
Fire!
Smash Champion
SuSa
Banned via Administration
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FrankPizzi
Smash Apprentice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBI8TIUQ8LQ Someone mind explaining how this is done?
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Yea, it's actually really wierd, but that the major reason why Marth's Dolphin slash is so much better.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
That's true, but dolphin slash probably edges it out for overall usefulness, and is definitely one of the best OOS options in the game (top 3), much better in that regard then SL.
Matt07
Smash Master
I think if you hit the jump button again right before you land you'll get another double jump the timing isn't that strict. I'm suprised we haven't really put that too much use. I mean we could like b-air forever.
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False, Fortress is not the best out of shield option in the game.
The reason is simple, because it can be outspaced fairly easily.
It's more like Metaknight's Up-B, then Snake's Jab, then Marth's Up-B.
As for the infinite jump thing...srsly this is why I use Ganondorf. He makes learning basic things in Brawl easy. Ganondorf has an infinite jump glitch called the Flight of Ganon or the Ganon SUPER Jump, where he does jump + aerial wizkick within one frame of landing on the ground.
So anyhow, there is a glitch in Brawl where if you manage to end ANYTHING (like an aerial attack, and air dodge, or maybe some special attacks) one frame before you land on the ground, you get your midair jump back.
Veggi
Smash Champion
How is Marth's up b better than Mario's? I'm not denying it, I just want to know.
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
Cuz he has a tiara. But Marth has a cape too >:[
I here by declare midwest full of no Mario's land =(
I here by declare midwest full of no Mario's land =(