Data Mah0ne's Stuff about Puff

[Mahone]

Yeah that's why Puff loses

Ocean, I clearly love you oh my gaaawwwwwd

Oh, i misunderstood, i thought you were saying she wins or something.

 

[Ocean]

Ocean, I clearly love you oh my gaaawwwwwd

DON'T YOU LIE TO ME. ):

 

[KirbyKaze]

DON'T YOU LIE TO ME. ):

BUT BABY WE CAN WORK THIS OUT

 

[Ocean]

GET OUT OF MY HOUSE, I NEVER WANT TO SEE YOUR FACE AGAIN.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I OWN THE DEED; GET OUT OF MY HOUSE honey

 

[Ocean]

I'LL SEE YOU IN COURT, *******.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I'M KEEPING THE KIDS

THEY'RE MINE

 

[Ocean]

GOOD I NEVER WANTED THEM ANYWAY.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY WE STOLE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE

MAYBE WE SHOULD GIVE THEM BACK

 

[Ocean]

WE COULD TRY SELLING THEM ON THE BLACK MARKET.

 

[Summonedfist]

please don't turn this into a "run to ledge, wait for an attack, run away and then turn back and hit" lesson loooool

 

[KirbyKaze]

WE COULD TRY SELLING THEM ON THE BLACK MARKET.

THAT'S A GOOD IDEA

 

[Ocean]

WHY DID I EVER LEAVE YOU I LOVE YOU SO MUCH

 

[KirbyKaze]

I AGREE; WANNA GO TO A BAR AND REGRET STUFF IN THE MORNING?

 

[Ocean]

WHO SAYS WE'LL REGRET IT

 

[KirbyKaze]

I LOVE YOU OCEAN

 

[Ocean]

you don't even know my name!

 

[KirbyKaze]

Kyle why you gotta be like that

 

[FoxLisk]

thats not my name

 

[Ocean]

you cheated.

 

[KirbyKaze]

it's true

 

[Mahone]

yo idea, i finally got around to reading your peach guide and its great! it's inspired me to be more in depth with my matchups....

i was wondering if you could change the good/bad ideas in the matchup to Pros and Cons, so that it would fit with the format of all the other matchups.... and i think close to the end you meant she will cut through upair (not dair), so i was going to correct that, unless i misunderstood it.

 

[idea]

thanks =)

yeah sure, but all in time. i have some essays coming up, then exams soon after. i'll do more of this stuff over the summer.

yeah, go ahead and correct it if i wrote it that way...i meant that peach's dair will cut through jiggs's upair.

one thing you should always have is a tl;dr thing at the end. everything (not just smash) should be explained in both detailed form and layman's terms, imo.

 

[Mahone]

im gonna edit the op later, but i should add that pound ***** aggressive foxes

also, i added the other character's matchup guide against puff in a hidden message for all the chars, i think it really helps to read their game plan.

 

[idea]

yeah, that's smart, i should go read those sometime.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Why is FoD good for Sheik against Puff, again?

 

[Mahone]

Actually, i guess you're right, fod isn't really bad in this matchup... mabye yoshi's or battlefield because of platform camping?

Idk, like i said no stage is that bad for this matchup, so I really don't care what i ban.

What do you think the ban should be?

 

[idea]

i don't like FD against sheik. afaik it's not actually bad for jiggs, but either way, i don't like it. i guess i just find the stage boring and uneventful when i'm not a fastfaller.

you can't hide under platforms, but at the same time she can't recover onto them (so she's easier to edgeguard with rest). she also can't platform camp you, but her platform camping never bothers me much anyway.

 

[Mahone]

well, the point i was trying to make in the op is that it doesn't really matter what stage you ban, so you should just go with personal preference... mabye i should make that clearer.

 

[idea]

lol, sorry, still haven't read most of that =P it's just a lot easier to respond to small comments so that's all i was doing.

 

[Mahone]

oh, np, its my fault, tbh i didn't really put much effort into the sheik matchup because all the sheiks i ever play are hella easy or tope

 

[sauc3]

dreamland sucks vs a campy shiek, i would never cp there (anymore)
fd or battlefield are easily the best neutral stages for me,

 

[Mahone]

dreamland sucks vs a campy shiek, i would never cp there (anymore)
fd or battlefield are easily the best neutral stages for me,

See, this is why its so weird, because i think battlefield is worse against campy shieks.

 

[idea]

battlefield feels normal to me. i mean sheik can run away, but you don't really have to chase her.

also dreamland lets them camp you easier, but on the other hand, you really don't die until around 120. unless she jumps out and fairs you when you're recovering. but that could happen anywhere.

i'd still prefer other stages over dreamland, though, come to think of it. i don't like those higher platforms either. dunno if it's enough to say it's actually a good choice for sheik or not.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I wonder if Puff mains actually know anything about their character O__O

 

[Massive]

We know enough.

 

[idea]

I wonder if Puff mains actually know anything about their character O__O

whenever people say stuff like this it just makes me really curious.

 

[KirbyKaze]

I largely jest

What I know about Sheik changes about every 3 months lololol



I usually go to Dreamland vs. Puffs for the camping power

But that's bad

FoD is great for Puff vs Sheik though

I'm so torn about whether Yoshi is good for Puff or not in the MU

 

[idea]

yeah i know, but when you're that vague i can't even tell what you're referring to.

 

[Mahone]

I largely jest

What I know about Sheik changes about every 3 months lololol



I usually go to Dreamland vs. Puffs for the camping power

But that's bad

FoD is great for Puff vs Sheik though

I'm so torn about whether Yoshi is good for Puff or not in the MU

Ya, idk, i think big stages are good for puff because you still kill quick with rest but get to live longer....

and small stages are good for puff because she can't get away as easy and you can spam rest setups

I really think its just personal preference