Louie's Notes-Olimar Q&A Thread!!

[Zori]

^^ wrong thread

+1

 

[NH Cody]

WTH Kaffei is no random scrub

 

[Jane]

Whats the best way to counter a dash grab happy olimar? Throw out random fsmashes or what?

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Yeah, Fsmashes. Or Purple Toss.

 

[Kaffei]

WTH Kaffei is no random scrub

oh really....

 

[Greward]

Whats the best way to counter a dash grab happy olimar? Throw out random fsmashes or what?

there are 2 options:

a) lol are u seriously asking that?
b) ftilt

 

[Jane]

Well i mean i know fsmash to beat grab, i was just hoping someone could give me some better insight since im sure thats a pretty common thing to encounter in the ditto... throw pikmanz then try to grab. And i was getting beat by it lol, maybe i should have just been more aware but yeah was just looking for some insight

 

[Excellence]

Well i mean i know fsmash to beat grab, i was just hoping someone could give me some better insight since im sure thats a pretty common thing to encounter in the ditto... throw pikmanz then try to grab. And i was getting beat by it lol, maybe i should have just been more aware but yeah was just looking for some insight

Dash Grabbing as Olimar, especially AGAINST Olimar is stupid when the target Olimar is grounded and not landing into it helplessly. You can either FAir, Smash (best option), or NAir through them. I would highly suggest that you FSmash because it allows you to keep range and it's such a good ption.

 

[Evil-Guy]

Does all the pikmin except blue die in the water?

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Yes. <herewego...

 

[Blissard]

Lol at both the question and the one-word answer. Anyway Hilt what is your name in Pokemon Online? Or rather...what server will you be at? Oh and these questions are just more for future reference, being that I'm still not back at my home PC and I'm still dying to get 3-stocked by you in Brawl.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to change my color XD

 

[DtJ Hilt]

I get on Beta, and if it's down I get on whichever server has the most people XD That's when my server's down though, which is usually, because our group that plays is off and on. I could always run it again though, haha. but yeah, my name on it's Hilt. X:

Edit: Your font color's so light that it looks white on this skin, lol.

 

[Greward]

Does all the pikmin except blue die in the water?

if a yellow pikmin gets in the water it will kill every char in the water because of electricity instant 999% you know

 

[Noa.]

if a yellow pikmin gets in the water it will kill every char in the water because of electricity instant 999% you know

This basically.

 

[Blissard]

Hilt I'm confused with the Pokemon thingy, cause it says that my team is invalid, and I can only play challenge cup, and I should try giving my Pokemon moves.

And my pokemon already have moves on them o.O

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Get on aim and I'll try to help you

 

[Jane]

......




+1?

 

[Geddan]

how do you instant tether onto the stage with tapjump on?

i've asked this in the past but have gotten no answer besides "don't play with tap jump" which is something i'm not going to do.

someone has to know

 

[-Vocal-]

how do you instant tether onto the stage with tapjump on?

i've asked this in the past but have gotten no answer besides "don't play with tap jump" which is something i'm not going to do.

someone has to know

You do it really, insanely fast. That's it.

 

[Geddan]

wait, what's the input with tap jump? i'm talking about the instant return like in the video that llumys posted when he was still alive (rip llumys).

 

[Jane]

its the same, just press up and B at the same time to not accidentally jump, then tether

 

[PSI.kick]

hey im kinda new to olimar what should i practice on and how should i practice it? i can only play against humans once a week or so, so preferably training/cpu practice tips

 

[Noa.]

Yeah do instant return with tap jump on the same way as off. I do it but it's hard to be consistent.

 

[-Vocal-]

hey im kinda new to olimar what should i practice on and how should i practice it? i can only play against humans once a week or so, so preferably training/cpu practice tips

Hi PSI If you're relatively new, you should start by reading the guide that we have stickied, "Deflowered." You'll get lots of new things to focus on in there, and then you could come to us with more specific questions. Playing against humans is the best practice (even once a week), but you can still practice your basic combos/strings on CPUs and use them to figure out both how Olimar handles AND how his moves affect other characters (e.g. hitting Snake with a Fair at this percentage will leave him in range for an fsmash or grab if he doesn't jump, stuff like that).

 

[PSI.kick]

ok sweet thanks. and yeah i read the guides they've been extremely helpful

Also ive been experimenting with yellow pikmin, is a land canceled uair a possible combo because of yellow hitstun or is there too much landing lag for that

 

[-Vocal-]

ok sweet thanks. and yeah i read the guides they've been extremely helpful

Also ive been experimenting with yellow pikmin, is a land canceled uair a possible combo because of yellow hitstun or is there too much landing lag for that

I've tried landing Uair combos and they never work. I'm pretty sure that yellow hitstun is lower after low percentages, so the answer is most likely no. However, iNairing (incomplete Nair) is byfar a better option, though the yellow priority would be nice if it extended further downward.

 

[Blissard]

Also ive been experimenting with yellow pikmin, is a land canceled uair a possible combo because of yellow hitstun or is there too much landing lag for that

Lol in what case would you even land cancel an uair? You only uair if they're pretty high. I'd much rather utilt if they're that close to the ground anyway.

Also, I had 2 questions. 1) is it ever a good idea to approach the opponent with sh or fh aerials, and if so, which ones? 2) what do you do when you're in the air (but not too high) and the opponent is camping for grabs diagonally below you? Grandpa Hilt always said to steer clear of the opponent or purple toss, but that doesn't always work XD

 

[-Vocal-]

Lol in what case would you even land cancel an uair? You only uair if they're pretty high. I'd much rather utilt if they're that close to the ground anyway.

Also, I had 2 questions. 1) is it ever a good idea to approach the opponent with sh or fh aerials, and if so, which ones? 2) what do you do when you're in the air (but not too high) and the opponent is camping for grabs diagonally below you? Grandpa Hilt always said to steer clear of the opponent or purple toss, but that doesn't always work XD

Fair, especially yellow. Iirc it's nonpunishable by most characters (not sure which are the exceptions) on all but a perfect shield. You can also throw out an Fsmash or Pivot Grab afterwards just in case they DO try to punish you for it. Fair is an excellent spacing tool - even if you don't deal damage with it it still keeps people out of Oli's bubble, just be sure to space it at the max range when possible.

Of course you'll want to be camping most opponents and making them approach you, butn when you need to, Fair is your best option.

 

[MiniTroika]

I've been wondering about this for a while... Olimar boards are usually lacking in consistent contributions to the video thread. Is there anyone on this board that has a dazzle and would be willing to help out people who only have replays?

I would upload SOOO much more videos if I had some way to get them recorded like in Dazzle.

 

[Geddan]

how do you tarzan?

 

[PSI.kick]

You scream really loud, swing from a few ropes, then find a girl that likes monkeys, steal her from a weird dude with a rifle, and try not to get shot.

And yeah another question, is it possible to pivot grab OoS?

 

[Blissard]

And yeah another question, is it possible to pivot grab OoS?

Don't think so. Shield drop takes 7 frames. And trying to dash oos for the pivot will lead to a roll.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Yeah, what Blissard said. You can't pivot grab OOS. You can only do something OOS if you're able to do it in the first few frames of a jump (up smash, for instance), and you can't dash out of the initial jump frames.

 

[Geddan]

how do you tarzan?

so how do you do it?

 

[MiniTroika]

Yeah, what Blissard said. You can't pivot grab OOS. You can only do something OOS if you're able to do it in the first few frames of a jump (up smash, for instance), and you can't dash out of the initial jump frames.

Hold on for a minute. I was playing around with Peach cause I was helping Razmakazi out for a bit until I accidently pivot grabbed out of shield with peach. It was a weird one motion. I would dash, shield, then turn around and grab. Instantly.

I remember now! It was cause he complained to me about Peach getting chased. So we simulated a scenario where meta is chasing her and what I wrote above was effective. It managed to powershield and grab.

 

[-Vocal-]

Hold on for a minute. I was playing around with Peach cause I was helping Razmakazi out for a bit until I accidently pivot grabbed out of shield with peach. It was a weird one motion. I would dash, shield, then turn around and grab. Instantly.

I remember now! It was cause he complained to me about Peach getting chased. So we simulated a scenario where meta is chasing her and what I wrote above was effective. It managed to powershield and grab.

I don't think you get pivot grab range on grabs like that though. Since Peach was standing still, all she did was turn around and then grab. I see Ice Climbers do that quite a bit, plus other people when I Nair their shield (took me a little while to learn to stop doing it so often).

 

[DtJ Hilt]

That's not out of shield. You're still dropping your shield in that situation. In order for something to be OOS you have to cancel your shield with something (Jump, Shield Grab, Roll).

 

[-Vocal-]

That's not out of shield. You're still dropping your shield in that situation. In order for something to be OOS you have to cancel your shield with something (Jump, Shield Grab, Roll).

Oh yes, and this. I started out meaning to say that but I got sidetracked ^_^

 

[MiniTroika]

That's not out of shield. You're still dropping your shield in that situation. In order for something to be OOS you have to cancel your shield with something (Jump, Shield Grab, Roll).

Ahh that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[PSI.kick]

So basically if you want to grab behind you to punish someone who just hit your shield, you have to completely drop it and then turn around and grab. Oh well.