LoDScrew | Officially Cancelled

[#HBC | marshy]

The first point was also in reference to your 3 infraction points which is really unacceptable.

so is not paying attention scummy or what? what do you mean by "really unacceptable"?

Actually, no. But that doesn't actually make it an invalid point.

looks the same to me. you used that i wasnt paying attention and that i hammered as reasons for me to be lynched but i hammered because i wasnt paying attention. well unless you think im just lying

Basically the basis of my argument is that your hammer was scummy and your pretty much useless. Its not a particularly strong case but its all I have to go on right now.

how am i "pretty much useless"? and thats fine

 

[#HBC | marshy]

vote: marshy
1) You got by in the first part of the day just posting who you were suspicious of with little (or no) reason behind it. 2) And here you contradict yourself. You FoS him for saying that people on the chaco wagon aren't scummy. YOU were on the Chaco wagon! If there was some other meaning behind your post it obviously wasn't seen, as you didn't really post anything else in it other than that.

1) how is this scummy?

2) the underlined is where this falls apart since youre voting me off of an assumption. this isnt why i fosed him. i fosed him for discouraging riddles scumhunting effort when the chaco wagon is some of the best info we even have

 

[mentosman8]

His claim also made sure that we don't wagon him to L-1 while he's not around and ask for a claim, so we aren't going to have an accidental lynch. Really, the only information he gave scum is that he dies 1 vote early, which doesn't hurt town for everyone to know(just means if he gets suspicious and we push him scum can't play the I didn't know card.)

Not seeing Marshy as very suspicious right now, although I guess I do have one question: You're normally very strongly against no lynching, and you(essentially) hammered a no lynch very early D1. What was your reasoning?

 

[mentosman8]

Nevermind, you already explained that>_>

 

[DtJ Hilt]

1) how is this scummy?

2) the underlined is where this falls apart since youre voting me off of an assumption. this isnt why i fosed him. i fosed him for discouraging riddles scumhunting effort when the chaco wagon is some of the best info we even have

I never said it was scummy, that wasn't what I was focusing on. It was moreso that you didn't really explain your reasoning on it, or the two previous posts. You just came in, found someone that "looked good", mentioned them, and left. It didn't really seem like you were doing it for pressure and you didn't push on them much at all.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Just to clear things up, my first sentence is talking about your underlined sentence. I never said that chaco's wagon was scummy

 

[Riddle]

so is not paying attention scummy or what? what do you mean by "really unacceptable"?

There is no reason to have three infraction points at this stage. Pay more attention and don't get yourself modkilled.

looks the same to me. you used that i wasnt paying attention and that i hammered as reasons for me to be lynched but i hammered because i wasnt paying attention. well unless you think im just lying

If you are telling the truth (I'm not sure) you still made a dumb decision and quite possibly hurt town.

how am i "pretty much useless"? and thats fine

Your "pretty much useless" because you make unsupported votes, admittedly accidentally hammered the mod, and are just generally not contributing.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

I never said it was scummy, that wasn't what I was focusing on. It was moreso that you didn't really explain your reasoning on it, or the two previous posts. You just came in, found someone that "looked good", mentioned them, and left. It didn't really seem like you were doing it for pressure and you didn't push on them much at all.

if it isnt scummy then why use it as justification for a vote? and whats wrong with not explaining my reasoning?

"more votes on these dudes" is pressure. what else would it be?

There is no reason to have three infraction points at this stage. Pay more attention and don't get yourself modkilled.

thanks riddle

If you are telling the truth (I'm not sure) you still made a dumb decision and quite possibly hurt town.

why are we arguing about nothing

Your "pretty much useless" because you make unsupported votes, admittedly accidentally hammered the mod, and are just generally not contributing.

unsupported votes != useless. as for not contributing is there something specific you wanna hear?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

and ive given town a better idea of where my heads at and am trying to move towards a lynch more than most players

 

[KevinM]

Does riddle realize I'm at 4 so if he's going to be pushing the not paying attention = scum thing it's a blatant contradiction to be crucifying marshy for it.

I hope this is 15000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

 

[Cacti]

1. I am the Architect, and this is the Matrix. If you break 6 rules, you will be mod-killed, even if you kill me first.
2. Dead men tell no tales. Once you have died in the game, you are no longer allowed to make any more posts in the thread for any reason whatsoever unless you have replaced back into the game.
3. Unless your role PM specifically allows you the power, you are not to communicate with anyone about this game outside of this game thread. If your role PM does allow you this power, you are only communicate in your specific quicktopic.
4. Editing your posts is not allowed.
5. Each Day, you may vote for a player to be lynched using a bold vote command. For example, vote: Chaco.
6. To unvote, use the command unvote. You do not have to unvote before you vote a new player. For example, unvote vote: Tom.
7. No lynch is a viable lynch choice and a majority will end the Day without a lynch. For example, vote: No Lynch.
8. The Day will end when a majority lynch is decided or a pre-set deadline has been reached. If deadline is reached without a majority lynch decided, there will be no lynch.
9. After the majority lynch has been decided but before the lynch scene is posted, there will be a Twilight phase. Everyone can post in this phase, including the lynch majority target. After the lynch scene is posted, the game will move to Night.
10. There is no posting in this thread during the Night phase.
11. Personally attacking another player is not allowed and may result in your being mod-killed.
12. You are not allowed to quote your role PM or quote a fake role PM. You must paraphrase all information you wish to claim. You are not allowed to post or refer to any images or quotes in your role PM.
13. You are required to post every 72 hours. If you fail to do so, you will be prodded. 3 prods will result in your replacement.
14. You are not allowed to say the word "*********."
15. You are not allowed to post more than twice in a row.
16. You are not allowed to post in lime[COLOR].
    [*]Each player must use at least one hundred and fifty characters in each post.
    

Someone please post this every page so none of us forget to look at it.

Don't want unintentional modkills just because you didn't look at the front page.

FoS: KevinM for suggesting to quote the rules every page. This could have been a mafia ploy to get people to get infractions for posting in lime/saying the r-word.

moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooore chars incase quotes don't count, but I'm pretty sure they do.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

if it isnt scummy then why use it as justification for a vote? and whats wrong with not explaining my reasoning?

"more votes on these dudes" is pressure. what else would it be?

Coming in and saying "___ looks good", not putting down a vote, and then leaving afterwards, not coming back for awhile, isn't you pressuring them, it's you putting enough on the table for you to get by.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

FoS: KevinM for suggesting to quote the rules every page. This could have been a mafia ploy to get people to get infractions for posting in lime/saying the r-word.

moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooore chars incase quotes don't count, but I'm pretty sure they do.

That's farfetch'd, as it can get mafias too if they aren't careful. The logical answer here would be that KevinM told his buddies not to do it, which means assuming everyone who posted it is town.

latenight post, sorry if it makes no sense /bed

 

[DtJ Jungle]

lol Cacti, that's probably one of the more ridiculous things that has been said today. Riddles case is looking weaker and weaker every time he tries to explain it. Never saw the suspicion on marshy to begin with

 

[KevinM]

Would much rather go full force on cacti or riddleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

 

[Riddle]

lol Cacti, that's probably one of the more ridiculous things that has been said today. Riddles case is looking weaker and weaker every time he tries to explain it. Never saw the suspicion on marshy to begin with

My vote on Marshy is ultimately based on one thing. Marshy hammered the mod, wasted a day, and gave the scumteam an extra night. The other points are superfluous to me.

Would much rather go full force on cacti or riddleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

You have been asked sooo many times to give a reason for your desire to lynch me. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

 

[Ronike]

Yeah, either Marshy or Kevin are the play for sure. Im more comfortable with Marshy at this point though. For all the reasons previously said, including but not limited to lynch game mod when it was specifically discussed not to do so and thus granting scum an extra nk.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

First off, lol, FrozenFlame called his death.

Interesting. So the rules are actually important, huh? Well, anyone want to help me decipher the remaining rules and/or what the general gist are? I realize it is unlikely that any of you will be able to do this, but it can't hurt.

It is also implied in the previous rule that we can kill Chaco. I suggest we do this, post-haste.

Unvote Vote: Chaco

Ideas to come:

Note: Ronike is the first to say "Let's lynch Chaco."

no more votes on chaco. I have more hypothesizes to test and would rather have the thoughtless masses pile on votes after I've managed to test said hypothesizes.

This was his next post worth reading. One was deciphering that we couldn't say a certain word and one was saying, "Wow, lynching the mod is now a good thing after I stop doing it.

Oooooh, scary red writing, I'm shaking in my boots.

One more vote on Chaco please. No more. And not xsyven. Nobody unvote him either yet.

This is his next post.

I'm hated, will die at L-1
Non-lethal night actions will fail on me (investigate, protect etc)

This claim came out of nowhere.

unvote vote chaco

yeah good job exposing more power roles xonar. no one cares if youre hated. fos mentos for encouraging that bs

though if im missing something that explains why xonars claim is good play id really like to know

Here's Marshy's vote and here comes Gheb's.

Unvote Vote Chaco

HAMMAH

There's the faux-hammer.

I'm at the end of Day 1 now and I have a class to go through. If you couldn't tell I saw that first post and went the Ronike route with this. Not sure where it'll take me by the time I'm done. However, I don't find Xonar's claim on Day 1 a good town move. However, I don't know jack **** about the guy, so a take on it from you guys would help me out a lot here.

I'll continue my crusade later.

 

[Today]

@Ryker, Wasn't it Macman that "suggested" on voting Chaco? And that everyone else decide to follow? Unless you mean that Ronike was pushing for a lynch on Chaco. But you did state,

Killing the mod might be a good idea. You never know.

@Marshy,

unsupported votes != useless. as for not contributing is there something specific you wanna hear?

If you are going to vote someone, of course people are going to want to hear/read what you have to say. Just voting someone and not giving support on why you're voting them doesn't help.

and ive given town a better idea of where my heads at and am trying to move towards a lynch more than most players

At least give reasoning. vote Marshy You've just pretty much complain about everything when people are asking you to at least support your answers which you can't even do.
Same with the Riddle thing. Idk why people are voting him and no one has bothered on giving any reasoning on this, either.

 

[Ronike]

You went the Ronike route? I dont understand what you mean by that... Could you please elaborate.

Its funny, I forgot that I said lynch the mod, but I really did change my mind and did say that we should wait a bit and discuss it before we lynch, which marshy and gheb neglected to do. Still fine with a marshy lynch.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

@Ryker, Wasn't it Macman that "suggested" on voting Chaco? And that everyone else decide to follow? Unless you mean that Ronike was pushing for a lynch on Chaco. But you did state,

Macman was the first to vote him, just as I was the first to vote Tom. However, Ronike was the one who said to go through and lynch him. Macman had no intention of his vote doing anything if I'm correct.

You went the Ronike route? I dont understand what you mean by that... Could you please elaborate.

The first quote of you I had made me look at you and your motives. Sort of an pseudo isolation read. When I started to reread, I had no real aim. Your intentions gave me one.

Its funny, I forgot that I said lynch the mod, but I really did change my mind and did say that we should wait a bit and discuss it before we lynch, which marshy and gheb neglected to do. Still fine with a marshy lynch.

Exactly. I saw that almost immediately once there was a huge influx of votes. I'm not saying to vote you at this point.

I would appreciate a take on Xonar's claim though.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Coming in and saying "___ looks good", not putting down a vote, and then leaving afterwards, not coming back for awhile, isn't you pressuring them, it's you putting enough on the table for you to get by.

my vote was already on someone. it looks like i was lethargic but nothing was happening during the time period i "left" and i expected people to wagon them

you also ignored my other questions

My vote on Marshy is ultimately based on one thing. Marshy hammered the mod, wasted a day, and gave the scumteam an extra night. The other points are superfluous to me.

THEN WHY ****ING SAY THEM

@Marshy, If you are going to vote someone, of course people are going to want to hear/read what you have to say. Just voting someone and not giving support on why you're voting them doesn't help.

this is more a playstyle thing. i think its fine to vote someone without explaining why so long as you can explain why if someone asks

At least give reasoning. vote Marshy You've just pretty much complain about everything when people are asking you to at least support your answers which you can't even do.

what? ive responded to every accusation thrown at me

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Vote Count [10/18 to lynch]

Riddle (2): KevinM, Xonar
Ryker (2): Cacti, Marshy
Gheb_01 (1): Omis
Marshy (5): Ronike, Riddle, Ryker, -Hilt-, Today
Xsyven (1): Gheb_01
Mentos (1): Handorin
Rockin (1): Macman

Not voting (6): ChiboSempai, Mentosman8, Rockin, Scumfever, §teel, Xsyven

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[#HBC | ZoZo]

Lol ryker would you prefer accidently lynching me when i'm at L-1 for 'pressure' while i'm offline being all cool op here in europe?

or have the cop waste investigates on me? or the doc waste protects?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Lol ryker would you prefer accidently lynching me when i'm at L-1 for 'pressure' while i'm offline being all cool op here in europe?

or have the cop waste investigates on me? or the doc waste protects?

Trust me, offsite I play with a guy from Sweden and we manage to wait for him. Anyway, What's to validify your claim?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Trust me, offsite I play with a guy from Sweden and we manage to wait for him. Anyway, What's to validify your claim?

Eh there is no way to validify it except if you have a PR and want to waste it on me or you want to put me at L-1 which will obviously kill me :/

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Yeah, either Marshy or Kevin are the play for sure. Im more comfortable with Marshy at this point though. For all the reasons previously said, including but not limited to lynch game mod when it was specifically discussed not to do so and thus granting scum an extra nk.

you should stop skimming

if it isnt scummy then why use it as justification for a vote?

actually this is kind of an unfair question i think cuz i cant think of an answer that doesnt make hilt look bad

 

[#HBC | Mac]

getting mar****own

was getting riddlescum but meh, i dont really think he is anymore

and im posting alot more so i dont get modraped, amiritewbucb

 

[Chaco]

§teel has requested replacement, contacting Nicholas.

 

[Today]

what? ive responded to every accusation thrown at me

By reasoning I mean your votes.

Not giving support doesn't help. Just like the whole Riddle business. If you have a vote on some please give reasoning on why. It also helps point out things people may have missed.

@Ryker, What are you trying to get at with Ronike? His intentions? It's not like he was pushing for a full on lynch since he did say to calm the votes down.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

By reasoning I mean your votes.

Not giving support doesn't help. Just like the whole Riddle business. If you have a vote on some please give reasoning on why. It also helps point out things people may have missed.

@Ryker, What are you trying to get at with Ronike? His intentions? It's not like he was pushing for a full on lynch since he did say to calm the votes down.

That's what I've been saying. It was an empty lead. I'm not going to pursue it.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Would much rather go full force on cacti or riddleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Did this not stand out to anybody? This is Kevin's first post after Cacti foses him and suddenly he decides that he'd like to go "full force" on Cacti even though Kevin was exclusively pushing Riddle the entire time? That looks like blatant OMGUS to me. Would like to hear at least an explanation from Kevin on why we should go full force on either of them.

Not sure about Marshy but I doubt he's scum. His play currently looks a lot like Monster Island Mafia when he was wagoned as a townie. I wish he'd explain his suspicions a little more / better though he has given us enough to talk about and he made legitimate efforts to get the game moving so I'd say it's fair to cut him some slack. His wagon will also give us some decent information later in the game which is something everybody can work with.

Am I the only one who's bothered by the lack of input from Xsyven, Handorin, Rockin and Omis? Obviously it's hard to have 19 reliably active players but I'd still like to remind everybody that it's way too easy for scum to slip under the radar while town focuses on only like 3 or 4 people. That's not very productive.

I'm fine with my vote.

 

[Chaco]

Xsyven has requested replacement.

 

[Chaco]

Steel has been replaced by Mayling! Thanks Mayling!

 

[Chaco]

Nick replaces Xsyven! Thanks Nick!

 

[Nicholas1024]

Hello everybody! Wow, two replacements at once? That seems kind of ridiculou... I mean absurd. Anyway, I'll see if I can catch up by Sunday, then expect some content from me. Let's get this party started.

 

[KevinM]

I'm thinking I might actually making a case sometime tomorrow when I'm not exhausted since people apparantly aren't getting why these two are blatantly being more and more scummy.

 

[Handorin]

I'm not going to pretend I've read the past bit. I just need to drop by to say it's been really hard for me to be active since I've been working 12ish hour days everyday, and it probably won't stop until Sunday....

 

[Mayling]

Oh, we've got a rule like that where I play. It involves lynching this one guy on Day 1 regardless of his alignment.

magnatoon?

I'm hated, will die at L-1
Non-lethal night actions will fail on me (investigate, protect etc)

nice role claim

can't lynch you... and everything that confirm that you're telling the truth will result in a wasted night actions.

Also Xonar, good job claiming those points, makes sure no accidental quicklynching/protects

odd reinforcement of the claim

Where does the idea come from that I wanted to hammer Chaco? Yes, I posted "hammah" in big, bold letters but that doesn't mean anything. Marshy usually does it but this time he didn't so i jokingly added it after Chaco was already hammered. You're already like the 3rd person who accuses me of this and you're the like the 3rd person who's wrong about this so just drop it.

lololol really? you say you posted 'hammah" but it didn't mean anything, yet you seemed under the impression that you WERE hammering him

you say you jokingly added it after chaco was already hammered but your post was a minute behind marshy's... how would you have known that he was hammered at that point? that quick of a poster? mmmhmmm

way defensive (and wrong)

I did NOT vote for you. I did not ignore your previous post. I believe you said you voted for pressure purposes and did not know he would show up 10 minutes later which implies to me that you were voting him because he was not posting. Do you even know what pseudo-scumhunting is? I believe that selective voting is scummy enough to warrant and FoS.

Obviously I don't want you to play like the coasters. I dislike coasting as much as you do.

Gheb, your extreme overreaction to an FoS says a lot to me. Why did you get this upset? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your frusturated scum but IGMEOY.

mixup in bold? i can infer what you meant but would prefer not to.

Marshy needs to go. Gheb's just dumb at times, he prolly wouldn't have even considered the chaco lynch as a viable scum strategy to get a free nk, whereas Marshy's one of our best players, and still hammered even though nearly the entire town said not to. Plus he's advocating quicklynching due to a large number of players, as well as throwing some suspicion on Gheb (which I admit he may deserve). All in all though, Marshy can go.

Unvote: Vote Marshy

i think the part about marshy being a good player and intentionally hammering needs to be further looked into

Everyone- Who is the play, and why? Also, what's everyone's opinion about Frozen's death?

i think frozen was the 'easy kill' for mafia. from what i understand he dies early a lot? correct me if i'm wrong

Also, give me one legitimate reason why a hated townie should NOT claim right away. If you can't(which I already know the answer to), explain to me why supporting such an action is suspicious.

to me, it's not that he just claimed hated townie, but he also managed a claim where he, at night, could not be confirmed telling the truth, saying that the night action would be wasted. going into night, he did NOT have suspicions on him... so if his claim makes so much sense and was so believable, he would be 100% confirmed townie... considering that, why didn't scum kill him?

Anyways, still think we should lynch riddle above all else.

you've never said why have you?

vote: gheb byebye

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Scum might not have kill him because it leaves a nice WIFOMY argument for them/us to play on. What if it's all a gambit for us to believe that he's 100% townie? Like you said, we wouldn't be able to confirm this unless we lynch him. I don't know that he would come up with this claim, but good scum partners might.