Cello_Marl
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I'm satisfied with McFox for toDay. I've changed my mind on one thing I had to say, so I'll just leave it out for now.
vote McFox
uncap Chaco
Carrots, people. Chaco might just need to be spurred. To be honest, I'd prefer Kataefi, since he actually has participated, but we're repeating Day 2 all over again.
Rockin, this is a bit late in coming, but Kevin doesn't have anything to give from his questions. Much like Ronike, he was gauging reactions (albeit secondarily) and wanting questions and discussion (primarily, and unlike Ronike). What differentiates him from McFox (in the emulation of Ronike) is the fact that Kevin's questions (some of them at least) don't make sense from an "Assume Kevin is scum" perspective. I don't think they were scummy, in a breadcrumb sense, since they provide "information" that is contrary to what appears to be the scum's tactics; specifically, full-spread incaps. The alternative would be pile-on incaps to prevent clears. Think about it; the prime accusation of the questionnaire's scumminess is that it provides who-to-incap info. So, where is the direction? The most efficient method would be to indicate personal incap targets (which I realized around Daybreak that was what Mentos was alluding to when referring to breadcrumbing. Up to that point I was looking for hidden directions.) Kevin just said "Looking good man, I like the way you look with that bandana on." The only other possibility that explicitly refers to himself is his Macman question. However, as we can tell from the incaps, the scum didn't all pile-on Macman. I'll show why that matters later. All that's left would be giving directions. Assuming that Kevin is scum for this part, otherwise, he wouldn't be breadcrumbing in the first place. The best ways without private communication to indicate incaps and/or pools of incaps would be a question-and-response format (Like to McFox, unlikely, given that it directly links names, and any overlap causes confusion [full-spread], or would be a dead giveaway [pile-on]), target indication by associating their names in an indirect way, such as his question to Macman (who would you uncap of these certain people [the actual answer doesn't matter, just that the names are both there. Most likely. This would only work if there was only one scum present in any given list]), and overlapping questions to present a target pool (similar to first option, but adds wifom element of who he was talking to. Example would be his question to me, Mayling and S2/Handorin. Still unlikely due to conflict with desire).
I think Kevin is a survivor. "16. The Marsh King: Top 3 lynch candidates and why." This didn't mean much to me at the time it was said, but in the meantime I have learned that Kevin and Marsh King tend to think alike when they are both town. I think Kevin was feeling out Marshy, to get an idea of whether or not he was a survivor too. Although it appears that Marshy didn't answer, in a way, he did. Specifically, he said he was bothered by Gheb, agreed with Circus's thinking, and wanted a Frozen post (presumably to get a read on him; lynch candidate would provide pressure). Kevin noticed that Marshy was indirect, as you can see in his responses to Mayling, and wanted something more. In fact, the whole nature of his reasoning for "wanting to lynch" Marshy seemed like a giant suggestion to open up and see if they correlated. One of the more telling points, however, is his response to May's who-to-incap reverse-question. He said, "I will most definitely try and hit the same targets my teammates are because that way i minimize the number of clears that town can work with the next day." Nothing else that I saw indicated a contradiction to this, in a breadcrumb to partners sense, so I'm assuming it's either his true feelings, or he has partners that would just KNOW his true intent (which I just can't see, based on who's left). So, either he has two partners that he can't read AND they don't agree with him and are actively incapping contrary to his wishes, or he isn't scum.
Oh, on an unrelated note for Marsh King, when you said, "avy so good need to see more of it", did you mean the source? It was from a Touhou fan comic called "Herada" by Hole of Yago, specifically #34 - Scoop.
I was going to mention this in AIM that one time, but I wasn't sure if that would have been appropriate or not, so I'll just put it in the thread to err on the side of caution. If you meant post more, then, OK.
vote McFox
uncap Chaco
Carrots, people. Chaco might just need to be spurred. To be honest, I'd prefer Kataefi, since he actually has participated, but we're repeating Day 2 all over again.
Rockin, this is a bit late in coming, but Kevin doesn't have anything to give from his questions. Much like Ronike, he was gauging reactions (albeit secondarily) and wanting questions and discussion (primarily, and unlike Ronike). What differentiates him from McFox (in the emulation of Ronike) is the fact that Kevin's questions (some of them at least) don't make sense from an "Assume Kevin is scum" perspective. I don't think they were scummy, in a breadcrumb sense, since they provide "information" that is contrary to what appears to be the scum's tactics; specifically, full-spread incaps. The alternative would be pile-on incaps to prevent clears. Think about it; the prime accusation of the questionnaire's scumminess is that it provides who-to-incap info. So, where is the direction? The most efficient method would be to indicate personal incap targets (which I realized around Daybreak that was what Mentos was alluding to when referring to breadcrumbing. Up to that point I was looking for hidden directions.) Kevin just said "Looking good man, I like the way you look with that bandana on." The only other possibility that explicitly refers to himself is his Macman question. However, as we can tell from the incaps, the scum didn't all pile-on Macman. I'll show why that matters later. All that's left would be giving directions. Assuming that Kevin is scum for this part, otherwise, he wouldn't be breadcrumbing in the first place. The best ways without private communication to indicate incaps and/or pools of incaps would be a question-and-response format (Like to McFox, unlikely, given that it directly links names, and any overlap causes confusion [full-spread], or would be a dead giveaway [pile-on]), target indication by associating their names in an indirect way, such as his question to Macman (who would you uncap of these certain people [the actual answer doesn't matter, just that the names are both there. Most likely. This would only work if there was only one scum present in any given list]), and overlapping questions to present a target pool (similar to first option, but adds wifom element of who he was talking to. Example would be his question to me, Mayling and S2/Handorin. Still unlikely due to conflict with desire).
I think Kevin is a survivor. "16. The Marsh King: Top 3 lynch candidates and why." This didn't mean much to me at the time it was said, but in the meantime I have learned that Kevin and Marsh King tend to think alike when they are both town. I think Kevin was feeling out Marshy, to get an idea of whether or not he was a survivor too. Although it appears that Marshy didn't answer, in a way, he did. Specifically, he said he was bothered by Gheb, agreed with Circus's thinking, and wanted a Frozen post (presumably to get a read on him; lynch candidate would provide pressure). Kevin noticed that Marshy was indirect, as you can see in his responses to Mayling, and wanted something more. In fact, the whole nature of his reasoning for "wanting to lynch" Marshy seemed like a giant suggestion to open up and see if they correlated. One of the more telling points, however, is his response to May's who-to-incap reverse-question. He said, "I will most definitely try and hit the same targets my teammates are because that way i minimize the number of clears that town can work with the next day." Nothing else that I saw indicated a contradiction to this, in a breadcrumb to partners sense, so I'm assuming it's either his true feelings, or he has partners that would just KNOW his true intent (which I just can't see, based on who's left). So, either he has two partners that he can't read AND they don't agree with him and are actively incapping contrary to his wishes, or he isn't scum.
Oh, on an unrelated note for Marsh King, when you said, "avy so good need to see more of it", did you mean the source? It was from a Touhou fan comic called "Herada" by Hole of Yago, specifically #34 - Scoop.
I was going to mention this in AIM that one time, but I wasn't sure if that would have been appropriate or not, so I'll just put it in the thread to err on the side of caution. If you meant post more, then, OK.
