GOD this is a MASSIVE post... I'm SO SORRY to have to bestow this on anyone but really it's my thoughts in a nutshell!
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@Ronike: Just to clear up your suspicions surrounding my claim - I doubt Tom would give people identical occupations. I'm under the mindset the characters in this game, though role-less, come from different backgrounds, or different-enough backgrounds. News reporter is a popular cliché character, it would be very bold of me as scum to claim a reporter when it's possible 1 out of 17 others might have the same character as well.
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@Mayling: of course it's convenient I pop up when I'm about to get lynched. Yes there are holiday johns but I'm not sitting here watching myself die. So your point?
Anyways I'll explain:
I was uncomfortable with your exchange with KevinM around #335, especially when you threw back the questions, mainly because I naturally found them suspicious and was drawn positively to the side of people that also found them suspicious. I've been consistent with my suspicion on them for awhile now, you should know this, I've been a broken record pretty much.
Then of course #359 I found a little off, you're not the only one here, but I became really focused on the players who were connected with the incaps on my re-read. MarshKing and S2 were present here in your quote, same with #368. You were among my list of people. That's just my current approach.
I found #361 by Pythag quite interesting because it brought to my attention how 'lovely' some of your points are. You came into S2's defence claiming because you know this player so well you therefore can conclude their role. At this point you seemed 100% sure S2 was certainly town, correct?
Now all of these point made me uneasy about you. Certainly not enough to vote you. Then came this:
Anyways, you know S2 (personally?) very well as stated in your most recent post. You seemed to relish the comfort that this player will come to your defence when you're in trouble and vice versa. A buddying, protective relationship, shall we say. This is evident in #359, especially in #671.
My point is that S2 was taken out of this game, you no longer had any of that buddy control on this player anymore. Handorin came in with suspicions of you... that's quite the contrast there.
I'm merely suspicious of you Mayling because A) I thought Handorin was a random incap, and I assumed scum would coordinate to take out Kevin, Marshy and Mentos first in N1, and B) because I feel the only motive of killing Handorin points directly to you. This is supported when you say 'I was obviously right'. You killed 2 birds with 1 stone here... you eliminated a threat to yourself (Handorin) whilst using your knowledge of S2 to affirm a town position and make everyone think highly of you. I believe this is what they call WIFOM? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
TERRIBLE TERRIBLE ANALOGY ALERT: Imagine your lover transformed into a psycho killer and went straight for you... there's no escape, no doors, no windows, just an empty room. It's you or them. Would you not detain or eliminate them in self defence?
That's my current take on you in this game. PLEASE NOTE: It's not decisive at all, you're not my only suspect. I don't know Handorin at all. I just feel that your lurking defensive attitude and some of the things I've highlighted above points to something possibly a little deeper with you, maybe a lot.
Still no vote on you though, I'd like to hear your replies first.
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@Mcfox: those questions address everyone, he's directly communicating with town and scum. I'm suspicious because... I'm having serious doubts those questions even did anything, for town at the very least. But, Kevin knows tons more than me. Maybe he did this for his own personal thoughts that he may share later on... I'm only suspicious until he presents something decent from these questions.
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@Kevin: What is exactly is stopping you from asking more questions? Or using the same tactics just moulded to suit this Day? You make it sound like 'that's it, town's failed, we'll never have another opportunity again'. There's plenty of opportunity, that is, unless you wanted those questions to be a one off thing.
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@Ronike: Just to clear up your suspicions surrounding my claim - I doubt Tom would give people identical occupations. I'm under the mindset the characters in this game, though role-less, come from different backgrounds, or different-enough backgrounds. News reporter is a popular cliché character, it would be very bold of me as scum to claim a reporter when it's possible 1 out of 17 others might have the same character as well.
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@Mayling: of course it's convenient I pop up when I'm about to get lynched. Yes there are holiday johns but I'm not sitting here watching myself die. So your point?
Anyways I'll explain:
I was uncomfortable with your exchange with KevinM around #335, especially when you threw back the questions, mainly because I naturally found them suspicious and was drawn positively to the side of people that also found them suspicious. I've been consistent with my suspicion on them for awhile now, you should know this, I've been a broken record pretty much.
Then of course #359 I found a little off, you're not the only one here, but I became really focused on the players who were connected with the incaps on my re-read. MarshKing and S2 were present here in your quote, same with #368. You were among my list of people. That's just my current approach.
I found #361 by Pythag quite interesting because it brought to my attention how 'lovely' some of your points are. You came into S2's defence claiming because you know this player so well you therefore can conclude their role. At this point you seemed 100% sure S2 was certainly town, correct?
Now all of these point made me uneasy about you. Certainly not enough to vote you. Then came this:
Right so... firstly, you were super defensive here. Let's not get this mistaken - no one was actually accusing you of anything, no one pressed on you hard at this point, you weren't active at this point at all, and you came out with this whole post which pretty much had alarm bells triggered all over.
Anyways, you know S2 (personally?) very well as stated in your most recent post. You seemed to relish the comfort that this player will come to your defence when you're in trouble and vice versa. A buddying, protective relationship, shall we say. This is evident in #359, especially in #671.
My point is that S2 was taken out of this game, you no longer had any of that buddy control on this player anymore. Handorin came in with suspicions of you... that's quite the contrast there.
I'm merely suspicious of you Mayling because A) I thought Handorin was a random incap, and I assumed scum would coordinate to take out Kevin, Marshy and Mentos first in N1, and B) because I feel the only motive of killing Handorin points directly to you. This is supported when you say 'I was obviously right'. You killed 2 birds with 1 stone here... you eliminated a threat to yourself (Handorin) whilst using your knowledge of S2 to affirm a town position and make everyone think highly of you. I believe this is what they call WIFOM? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
TERRIBLE TERRIBLE ANALOGY ALERT: Imagine your lover transformed into a psycho killer and went straight for you... there's no escape, no doors, no windows, just an empty room. It's you or them. Would you not detain or eliminate them in self defence?
Shows you've given this much thought then!
That's my current take on you in this game. PLEASE NOTE: It's not decisive at all, you're not my only suspect. I don't know Handorin at all. I just feel that your lurking defensive attitude and some of the things I've highlighted above points to something possibly a little deeper with you, maybe a lot.
Still no vote on you though, I'd like to hear your replies first.
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@Mcfox: those questions address everyone, he's directly communicating with town and scum. I'm suspicious because... I'm having serious doubts those questions even did anything, for town at the very least. But, Kevin knows tons more than me. Maybe he did this for his own personal thoughts that he may share later on... I'm only suspicious until he presents something decent from these questions.
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@Kevin: What is exactly is stopping you from asking more questions? Or using the same tactics just moulded to suit this Day? You make it sound like 'that's it, town's failed, we'll never have another opportunity again'. There's plenty of opportunity, that is, unless you wanted those questions to be a one off thing.
That way people can actually look at what you're talking about, since you're only quoting things that are helping your argument, and I'm not exactly sure if everyone is going to dig up and look at the actual post you're talking about.
