Oooo this is interesting. I've been following up on this thread but haven't had a good chance to post something lengthy. My wagon's a big surprise to me. Firstly:
You've been following up, but didn't have a good chance to post until you got a significant amount of votes on you. Interesting... and convenient!
Ronike... I AM GUY 
Hope that's simple enough!
un-uncap: marshy... a dangerous town player. I'm getting wagoned for 'scummity scum reasons'... definitely decisive!
Firstly: lots of coasters here, not just me. Lots of people not actively scumhunting. Lots of inactivity and wagoning. Let's take a look --> Mediocre's made 5 posts lmao... I'd quite like to hear Rockin's impressions of the game first before I rush into anything. If anyone's even considering lynching me based on lurking then I really don't know what to say.
Mediocre's getting a replacement . that doesn't make mediocre a coaster. makes him GONE.
I'd quite to hear Ronike's seemingly empty metagame case and the such... what exactly is the purpose of it? What ideas have you proven, what ideas are you assuming? I'd quite like to hear a town reason for Kevin addressing everyone directly and thus addressing actual scum members. How anyone can't find this suspicious is beyond me..
Ronike already said he almost presented most of his meta case and that he was mainly digging for reactions. Good job keeping up.
There are far more interesting points to consider and address than lynching myself toDay. I'll say a few things:
Ronike/Mcfox... one needs to be lynched. What better way for scum to communicate subtleties in a game like this than a fabricated argument, especially one this dragged out. Ronike has more ties to other players, they'll be a lot to work on no matter the flip. If Ronike = scum, what scum purpose is there for him to prolong his fight with Mcfox? Ronike = town, his dominance is justified... we can now look at those that made him a scapegoat and brought him down. Saying that, Ronike really isn't one of my suspicions at all, but the ping-poing debate is interesting to me and I'd like to look beneath the surface of it.
I don't think anyone's paid attention to Mayling. Very defensive outburst against myself and frozenflame, what with her swift vote and the fact I didn't actually accuse her(?) of anything. - A good trade of information with Kevin #335 especially with the lovely analysis on S2... #359/#368 ties her directly to the incaps. Very strange for Handorin to get incapped, Handorin would have been S2... and S2 has had experience with Mayling in the past. That's my little deduction of suspicion there. I've got many more points on this case, I'm not revealing everything now. I would like to hear Mayling's thoughts on:
- The three incaps
- Thoughts specifically on Kevin, Chaco and Circus!
Where did I outburst versus frozenflame?
I made a swift vote because I basically predicted what your argument against me was going to be. I feel you are scum trying to set me up.
Also, look at it this way: I feel I am VERY good at reading my friends. I got pro vibes from S2 and Cello. Then, someone tries to launch a lynch on them. I defend them. Since I felt they were town... what did you expect me to do, after my opinion had been voiced and known? Sit back and watch someone I felt was townie die? ... ****, I shoulda done THAT. That woulda made me a GREAT townie!
I've known S2 for about 1.5 years now and Cello all my life... I feel like I've gotten pretty good at reading them. (S2 makes it painfully obvious when he's scum. Cello made it painfully obvious he was town.)
If you had these thoughts/feelings why didn't you post them sooner? But you only decided to post your accusations when you got votes on you. So what I'm getting is that you waited to use this information to try and redirect attention from yourself onto another when you got votes on you. Interesting.
Not to dodge your questions:
Incaps:
I only really have opinions on the Hando/S2 incap, and like I've mentioned, I feel it's because they were trying to set me up.
KevinM: For a while I thought he was very scummy. I was worried to say anything because no one else was getting vibes (except Marshy I think who said he was scum or scum's best friend.) I feel with his questions he blended any sort of reasoning we could have included from the incaps, and that helped scum a lot.
Chaco/Circus: Neutral on them.
@Everyone: Ask me lots of questions...! I really don't want to be lynched.[/COLOR]
If I were scum, what would have REALLY been easier for me to do?
Defending S2 and getting attacked (from what I've seen, chances are someone will attack you for defending someone else)... or nodding my head and saying "yes, yes marshy I agree let's get s2 teehee"? (Or rather I guess at that point, I woulda just stayed quiet and hope Marshy led a wagon on him.)
How lovely! Thanks Pythag At this rate I'll be a goner. Here's my claim:
How desperate of me to say this... I'm definitely town, please don't hammer me, I have cases I want questioned and resolved.
I know exactly what my wagoners will say, (especially you scum wagoners seeking this moment as a wonderful predatory opportunity), so I'll say in advance... 18 players, lots of players, chances are if I faked my role PM I might end up having a similar or identical 'role'. News reporter is a popular role let's be honest, I ask... anyone out there who is a news reporter or has a role PM very similar to mine go right ahead and counter my claim.
If Tom didn't quote a role PM in the OP I would have had a VERY good case in my defence right now.
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Despite saying all this... I still want people to reply to my other post to ease my suspicions
We already discussed how it's likely that Tom sent out faked roles to the scum... and Tom probably wouldn't give two similar roles to a scum and a zombie. I don't think this post helps your case at all.
Ok, good to know about Kevin.
I agree with both for future references (along with the previously mentioned "don't jump the uncap gun tomorrow" business).
About Mayling's idea, I really do think that you were not incapped twice. If I had to pick, I'd say Hando was incapped twice. But also, keep in mind that scum also does not know who was incapped twice, so they are going to be scrambling just as we are to figure it out. That's not even counting the possibility that there are only 3 scum. So I still think you are the best uncap choice.
I think all the not uncapped clears should give their list of reads at day end before they die. Now of course, since apparently people don't understand team play, this obviously won't work too well as people won't cooperate, so maybe at the start of the day whoever is incapped should give their suspects. But anyways, my answer is if you are willing to tell us if you die, wait until you die, and if you aren't going to cooperate if you don't get uncapped, well then telling us your reads can only help you.
For the record, I still think there are plenty of other more suspicious players, but Kat is less of a n00b that she lets on methinks. Definetely not a new scum tho if she is, as she was partnered with a vet or two in grammys. Yada yada, blah blah blah. Vote: Kataefi
Also I was wondering... what kind of ratio will the scum vs town have?
4 zombies.
At any rate, I think what are strategy, at least today, should be is just get through it as fast as we can. Tomorrow the zombies start incaping people and we know who's clear and who's not and we can start judging from there. The lack of communication helps us a ton, as even if the zombies try to communicate their hit plans, its just as visible to survivors as it is to zombies.
Thoughts?
I talked to tom about the game before it started and remember there being 4 infected.
Why did you change your mind on number of scum, Ronike?
Oh, can you explain why you think hando was the one incapped twice?
