Kowns Thread.

[Coffee™]

I'm bored...

Pit's Matchups

Meta Knight 35-65
Snake - 50:50
Wario - 45:55
Falco - 45:55
Diddy Kong - 60:40
King Dedede - 50:50
Marth - 40:60
Mr. Game & Watch - 50:50
Pikachu - 50:50
Olimar - 40:60
Ice Climbers - 55:45
R.O.B. - 50:50
Kirby - 55:45
Lucario - 55:45
Zero Suit Samus - 60:40
Toon Link - 50:50
Pit - 65:35 MK (Because this should never happen and someone should be playing MK here)
Donkey Kong - 63:37 (I like these numbers for this)
Peach - 60:40
Luigi - 60:40
Fox - 50:50
Wolf - 60:40
Sonic - 50:50
Sheik - 60:40
Bowser - 60:40
Zelda - 60:40
Squirtle - 50:50
Ivysaur - 65:35
Charizard - 60:40
Ike - 65:35
Lucas - 60:40
Mario - 60:40
Ness - 63:37 (<3)
Yoshi - 60:40
Samus - 65:35
Jigglypuff - 60:40
Captain Falcon - 60:40
Link - 65:35
Ganondorf - 70:30


Discuss?!

 

[Afropony]

I think G&W isn't 50-50 but I know you won't change your mind, I think seeing as though Luigi is 60-40 Mario should be 55-45 instead of 60-40 because.

Does anyone want to make me an Avatar or a Signature? I've been on the site for a year and still havn't got one. I don't have the skills to make my own so please don't tell me to make my own.

EDIT: looking at that thing again I think Falco is probably 45-55, IC's maybe 60-40.

 

[Snopy]

Kirby - 55:45

I don't agree with that at all. I think Kirby is one of the hardest Matchups for Pit. 45-55 to 40-60, imo.
Lucario/ Pit should be even if not in Lucario's favour. And I agree with Afropony.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Half of those matchup ratios seem wrong, especially the G&W one, and whatever. You're underestimating most of the characters, like Peach, ZSS, and even Bowser

 

[Ayoub]

x'), if that matchup thing is true, pit should be number 2 on tier list.

 

[Jupz]

Hey guys, I've recently picked up Pit as a secondary. Hopefully I'll be posting around here more often ^_^

I think pit has fairly good matchups. Is the MK matchup really that bad? I would have it as 40:60 because of arrows, but I'm not very experienced in the matchup

 

[kingcobra9]

why is it in any board people who switch announce they what they think about matchups to the people who study it all the time

 

[Coffee™]

EDIT: looking at that thing again I think Falco is probably 45-55, IC's maybe 60-40.

Falco is 45:55...I made a mistake lol. ICs is close might be 60:40, especially if you take CP stages into consideration.

Kirby - 55:45

I don't agree with that at all. I think Kirby is one of the hardest Matchups for Pit. 45-55 to 40-60, imo.

Pit beats Kirby. He just has really dumb KO power but aside from that all of his approaches just get punished.

Half of those matchup ratios seem wrong, especially the G&W one, and whatever. You're underestimating most of the characters, like Peach, ZSS, and even Bowser

Pits complain about GW so much and it's really not necessary. At worse its like 45:55. As for ZSS and Bowser I play against one of the top 3 Bowsers and top 3 ZSS in the country, I'm not underestimating anything about either of them. As for Peach I've played a bunch of em. It's too easy to avoid her kill moves, she dies early + gets camped.

x'), if that matchup thing is true, pit should be number 2 on tier list.

Other characters have better matchups.

why is it in any board people who switch announce they what they think about matchups to the people who study it all the time

Huh?

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[swordsaint]

I'm switching back to Pit as my mainzoars.

 

[321BOOM]

I see alot of people coming back to pit,
makes me smile ;D

 

[swordsaint]

I had some good placings with Pit, then suddenly had a single bad weekend. My immaturity levels hit an all time low and convinced me higher tiers were the way to go. (Falco/Snake)

My Falco is starting to do bad now and my Pit is staying on par with all the top players I know still, and beating some of them, despite his lack of use.

Makes me wonder where my Pit could've been now if I hadn't stopped using him.

 

[Ayoub]

Sorry but saying that marth, oli and MK are pits only bad matchups is stupid.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Vids, R@vyn.... I want video proof to back up what you said. Until then, I'm not convinced on most of what you said.

Glad u came to Pit, swordsaint, we needs more potential angels! <3

 

[Afropony]

SwordSaint, I played Splice again yesterday in tournament, I ended up two stocking him 2 times .

Ravyn it'd be good if you could get some matches against a ZSS I've only ever played one once. the only way I won was by getting a lucky 0-death (40%) at the start of the first match.

 

[swordsaint]

That's good Afro, cos my Pit is seriously pretty hectic.

Makes me comfortable in bringing Pit to tournaments again.

 

[Coffee™]

Ravyn it'd be good if you could get some matches against a ZSS I've only ever played one once. the only way I won was by getting a lucky 0-death (40%) at the start of the first match.

I'll try to record some vs Nick Riddle when I get the chance.

 

[swordsaint]

Pit boards are kind of slow aren't they.

 

[goodkid]

Pit boards are kind of slow aren't they.

Yep, there are no top Pit players. I mean we have Admiral and R@vyn, but no one who is getting top 3 every tournament they go to. Next year, this will change.

 

[Esca]

Lol, why next year dude?

Swordsaint, the Pit boards are slow because, well, all of the top Pit players are lazy.

 

[swordsaint]

We need better players using Pit. We have a few good players using Pit, but no great players. And because of that we aren't seeing Pit's true potential.

I truly believe he can make A-tier eventually.

However since I'm using Pit again you can expect top 3's from me.

 

[uhmuzing]

Dear Pit Boards:

What are the training grounds?


Okay, so the training grounds are for newer players, and good players alike.

The point of the training grounds?

Anyone looking to learn a character can directly contact "Teachers" in order to learn more about the character. Whether you main the character and are looking to get better, or you want to pick up a new character, this is the place for you.

The Training Grounds, also called the Smash School, is looking to improve the Boards. We have teachers to pass on knowledge to those who want to learn, and it is becoming fairly successful. However, not every character is largely or even to a fair degree represented here, and that's where you come in. If you feel that you have the time, the experience, and the effort to help out, please visit the Smash School right now.

This really can make a big difference, especially to new members. But in order for it to become big, you have to help. If you're not quite teacher-material, go ahead and check it out anyway. You might improve your main, or even find fun with learning somebody new! Its a place for everyone!

Naturally, if you have questions or perhaps an idea, you can post in the thread. Or you can PM one of the "commitee."

Committee Members

Straked, the plumber.
S.O.L.I.D., the prince.
Cherry64, the woman.
GwJumpman, the robot.

If you think you'd be interested in being a teacher, PM your application to S.O.L.I.D.

We need better players using Pit. We have a few good players using Pit, but no great players. And because of that we aren't seeing Pit's true potential.

I truly believe he can make A-tier eventually.

However since I'm using Pit again you can expect top 3's from me.

Getting some new, competent Pits would help then, wouldn't it?

 

[321BOOM]

Lol, why next year dude?

not sure either.

maybe since all the pit peoples will get 10x better.
(along with all the other characters, but hey, its pit that matters~)
(or this wouldn't be called pit boards?)

>_>

imma monkey.

 

[Admiral Pit]

You know, I have thought about helping Pit players out a lot, but back then, I really loved helping many of them out. However, because of life, and experiences on another Website *CoughAIBCough* I am losing my courage to help others anymore.
I have tried to help for over a year, and now I just feel that I had enough. It takes guts to put up with those who aren't willing to make Pit better, those who rather just socialize instead of learning matchups. It really takes guts to put up with the "Casual" Pit players.

 

[swordsaint]

I'm not casual. I'm here to stab and win.

Let's finish this matchup ****. It annoyed me seeing all these incomplete matchups when I wanted to learn them for a national tourney next month.

 

[321BOOM]

It takes guts to put up with those who aren't willing to make Pit better, those who rather just socialize instead of learning matchups. It really takes guts to put up with the "Casual" Pit players.

lol, why wouldn't anyone want to make pit better?

thats blasphemy.

I'm not casual. I'm here to stab and win.

Let's finish this matchup ****. It annoyed me seeing all these incomplete matchups when I wanted to learn them for a national tourney next month.

seriously, that got me mad too.

 

[Valuno]

lol, why wouldn't anyone want to make pit better?

thats blasphemy.

It's really true, most AiB Pit players simply don't like discussing Pit at all, from what I've seen.

 

[Admiral Pit]

lol, why wouldn't anyone want to make pit better?

thats blasphemy.



seriously, that got me mad too.

Casual players who rather just socialize than talk about matchups, which I have experienced a lot of those kinds of ppl.

I understand that too. I can't be the only one getting discussions going. I wish I had support too.


And welcome back Valuno <3 AIM plz!

 

[321BOOM]

oh wow.
I only have an SWF account, so I wouldn't know.

I really wish I could help out, I don't have a lot of MU experience with pit.
I try to input all the info I research about though, It's the best I can do right now.

 

[Admiral Pit]

That's why it takes time to learn, as long as we are willing to learn, not goof around, and all. That's the difference. It's either u r willing to learn or you don't.

 

[321BOOM]

It would help if the pit boards were more active though.

Personally, I love to talk. But that doesn't mean I won't take the time to learn.
If we had more people posting, I would be on here all day, learning about MUs and such.

Being social helps me eliminate the boredome of having to sit here and read about MK, which by the way, we don't have a MU discussion on.
Also, MK boards don't even discuss pit. I don't think they can, the majority of our best pits don't post.

 

[Jupz]

Maybe a new matchup thread should be made?

 

[Admiral Pit]

I thought I made a new one, yet not many are helping, or I'm dry on topics.

 

[Jupz]

Oh right. We could make a stage discussion?

 

[Admiral Pit]

I'm not that big on stages, and there was one a long time ago, probably dead now.

 

[Jupz]

Still, it would be good to get some productive talk going.

 

[Phaigne]

Personally I'm trying to make Pit look worse, so when I win, it's a disgrace to my opponent. Also, this is why I love Ness.

 

[Zephil]

You know, I have thought about helping Pit players out a lot, but back then, I really loved helping many of them out. However, because of life, and experiences on another Website *CoughAIBCough* I am losing my courage to help others anymore.
I have tried to help for over a year, and now I just feel that I had enough. It takes guts to put up with those who aren't willing to make Pit better, those who rather just socialize instead of learning matchups. It really takes guts to put up with the "Casual" Pit players.

is better not to mention Pit in AIB... most ppl there just see Pit mains as little boys that like to use Marth´s gay lover...

btw I think we should really discuss more matchups... the first time I entered here I saw that this board lack a lot in matchup discussion and that is the best way so that "casual" pits start taking him more seriously... also I would love to know more about some matchups cause I have an important tourney in like a month and the price is big and I have high hopes that I can win it

 

[takeurlife2]

You know the best mind-game with Pit? Random grab releases on good Warios, into sweet-spotted bair.

It doesn't work if they sit still, but if they mash out, they float above you, in which case you bair kill them.

Takeurlife

ive been baited o.O

 

[Rogue Pit]

PM/IM me if you attend tournaments and play wifi.

I'll teach someone my pit.

 

[321BOOM]

most ppl there just see Pit mains as little boys that like to use Marth´s gay lover...

pedophiles.