Koopa Questions: a Bowser Q&A Thread

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Bowsers grab release to regrab. Do i have to dash to grab in order to get the grab again or slightly hold forward for the re grab.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Bowsers grab release to regrab. Do i have to dash to grab in order to get the grab again or slightly hold forward for the re grab.

Dash for most characters.

 

[B!squick]

Metal children, grassy plant monsters, and Wario need no dash.

 

[Ixisnaugus]

It is also impossible to re-grab multicolored reptilian creatures.

 

[B!squick]

It is also impossible to re-grab multicolored reptilian creatures.

Chameleons? O.o

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Chameleons? O.o

Yoshi obviousily

 

[B!squick]

Oh yeah. I keep forgetting they come in a rainbow of colors. I was thinking of a reptile thing that was multicolored all the time.

 

[AlMoStLeGeNdArY]

Dash for most characters.

Ah I see thanks man.

 

[rape_bowser91]

cant we use Bowser's Dair as a momentum cancel to stay alive?

 

[Hobobloke]

Yes people do use it for vertical momentum cancelling.

 

[Bowser King]

Though I remember someone saying fair was better if used while fastfalling (?).

Not sure whether it was unconfirmed or confirmed.

-Bowser King

 

[Hobobloke]

I think it was unconfirmed but at best it would let you live another 2-3% MrEh did some tests and found no distance and it's easier to FF dair anyway.

 

[Bowser King]

Oh yeah, I remember that test

Your better off using dair then.

-Bowser King

 

[Flayl]

Doesn't matter what aerial you use as long as you fastfall it. Since DAir reduces the size of Bowser's hurtbox, it's better. Of course there's always the problem that it takes forever to finish, but unless your opponent is MK or G&W he won't be able to do anything about it.

 

[NatP]

I have a question that has always been bothering me about boozer. How the heck do you grab the ledge with his upb. I've seen it in videos and I keep trying to emulate it but he always goes right through the ledge.

 

[Hobobloke]

Do you mean slide from the stage noto the edge with upb? If so you have to DI back at just before you fall off so you don't plummet to your death.

 

[B!squick]

Works better if you start the UpB facing the inside of the stage. Facing away it doesn't seem to grab as well.

 

[shinyspoon42]

Is there a bowser power ranking? what bowsers are actually attending tourneys?

 

[Hobobloke]

We are just talking about implementing a Bowser PR in the backroom so hopefully soon we'll have one up

 

[My Cat Owns]

Quick question: Do most of you bowsers find it easier to assign special to the c stick (instead of smash, to do things like upb OoS, and klawhopping)?

If so or if not, then why?

 

[Flayl]

No, I like c-stick set to smash to do retreating FAirs/FSmashes and Dashing Up Smashes.

I set L to jump. To UpB OoS I tilt the control stick up while shielding and then press L and B at the same time.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

No, I like c-stick set to smash to do retreating FAirs/FSmashes and Dashing Up Smashes.

I set L to jump. To UpB OoS I tilt the control stick up while shielding and then press L and B at the same time.

I have R on jump and do upb and R at the same time.

 

[Cassius.]

Vex don't you have tap jump off anyway <_< You jump cancel your UpB right?

Oh, also, there's another collabo Gauntlet September 5th, which is right before I go to school. I'm probably going to that.

 

[Red Arremer]

Vex don't you have tap hump off anyway <_< You jump cancel your UpB right?

LOL! Tap hump. Too good XD

 

[My Cat Owns]

No, I like c-stick set to smash to do retreating FAirs/FSmashes and Dashing Up Smashes.

I set L to jump. To UpB OoS I tilt the control stick up while shielding and then press L and B at the same time.

So if I use fortress OoS, I should be jumping with it? Most of the vids I see people do it on the ground.

 

[Flayl]

So if I use fortress OoS, I should be jumping with it? Most of the vids I see people do it on the ground.

Pressing jump and UpB at the same time will make Bowser perform fortress on the ground. The reason you're jumping is to bypass shield lag. Jumping out of a shield has no lag, but simply dropping it takes 7 frames, which would make a lot of attacks unpunishable.

 

[Cassius.]

OH WOW...LMFAO I didn't even notice that >_<

Thanks Spadefox!! xD

 

[My Cat Owns]

Pressing jump and UpB at the same time will make Bowser perform fortress on the ground. The reason you're jumping is to bypass shield lag. Jumping out of a shield has no lag, but simply dropping it takes 7 frames, which would make a lot of attacks unpunishable.

Okay, thanks for that^

 

[Bowser King]

This isn't as much of a question but a suggestion.

We have a lot of stickies. The critique topic hasn't been posted in months and that makes it useless if no ones using it.

I was thinking that the video topic could do the same job but if you wanted critique you could ask for it. The critique topic is doing nothing and if no ones posted in months I don't think it needs to stay.

Plus, the video thread already is doing the critique threads job. A lot of people just go there for critique anyway =/

Opinions?

-Bowser King

 

[Red Arremer]

I agree that the Bowser Video and Critique should be fused.

Additionally, in my opinion, the general Bowser Guide is pretty outdated already and should be updated. Furthermore, I think there should be a fusion of it, JayDeth's Power-Guide and perhaps the Framedata and Grab Releases.

The Directory thread is collecting dust already, as well. If we don't fuse Framedata and Grab Releases with a new guide, a directory thread should be enough to have them highlighted so they can be unstickied.

I'd be willing to help out creating a new compendium thread (see the Fox Boards' Directory and Matchup Index, both led by me, to get a picture of what my stuff looks like), and assist in creating a guide.

 

[Bowser King]

General Discussion should be stickied. All boards have there general discussion stickied so I don't see why we don't.

-Bowser King

 

[Red Arremer]

If you guys want, we can make a thread about reorganizing these boards, have a list of what we should do and assign people to take care of these things.
We then can contact the mods to sticky/unsticky/close threads or change leadership if someone of you wants to take over one project (namely the Directory thread, which I would be willing to take over).

 

[shinyspoon42]

Cleaning the place up a bit I guess.


And I have tap jump on so I can jump cancel stuff easier.

 

[My Cat Owns]

Yeah the video/critique thread should be stickied, for the same reasons bowser king stated in his post.

 

[Bowser King]

I don't know, wouldn't it be better for the general discussion? The thread would die pretty fast and we don't need a huge amount of change.

-Bowser King

 

[Red Arremer]

True, we could do that in General Discussion, too. Let's transfer the talk over there?

 

[Bowser King]

Yeah, we should

-Bowser King

 

[Sucumbio]

Does Bowser have any specific or unique disadvantages when used online due to lag?

 

[Flayl]

Does Bowser have any specific or unique disadvantages when used online due to lag?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8120870&postcount=14

 

[Jonas]

To me it doesn't really matter how a character does online. If you don't have acces to irl matches (local tournaments or smash friends), I'm afraid taking the game seriously just isn't worth it :/