Koopa Questions: a Bowser Q&A Thread

[The Brown Scourge]

Yay, september spring cleaning!!!

 

[Hobobloke]

Won't catch me me cleaning a thing, I like the Koopa kingdom how it is.

 

[Liquid Gen]

da da duh duh duh duh da a a da da daaaa

I'm bored.

Thus I will ask a question.

Why doesn't Bowser have falcon punch like he does in M&L:BIS?

 

[Cassius.]

Because SSBB came out like a year before M&L RPG3 came out? lol

 

[Liquid Gen]

Because SSBB came out like a year before M&L RPG3 came out? lol

Clearly they knew he liked punching by his ftilt.


I smell a conspiracy.

 

[B!squick]

Because Bowser with a Falcon Punch might make people want to play him, so the idea was scrapped.

 

[udov]

Pretty useless stuff but I felt like uploading it ^_^
Was it known?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S9fCWMjoBk
Basically, when you use down-throw in 2v2, if someone is close to the victim, they get pushed far away.

 

[B!squick]

That's probably because they were so close they got hit by the hitbox of the throw itself and while it's entertaining to see how much knockback it has on an opponent that happens to be near at a high percent, it's not really useful as the teammate would just hit Bowser and that's that, lol.

Interesting though.

 

[udov]

Well it has happened quite a few times when I played doubles, and most of the time the opponent who wasn't grabbed was actually still hit by the pummel, so they couldn't really escape but yeah that's just "funny" to watch

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

Does Bowser's D-air really make a small meteor smash at the end of the spin?

Because I'm going to make Bowser my secondary character (I know, a Meta Knight mainer who has Bowser as his secondary, nice change, right?)

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Does Bowser's D-air really make a small meteor smash at the end of the spin?

Because I'm going to make Bowser my secondary character (I know, a Meta Knight mainer who has Bowser as his secondary, right?)

As far as I know, yes.

 

[KingKong_ad]

yeah It does, I record a match who I did it but its really hard to do and the spike isnt strong.

 

[Cassius.]

it's a semi spike, like kirby's dair. a real meteor smash'd be like ganon's dair: filled with ****.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

it's a semi spike, like kirby's dair. a real meteor smash'd be like ganon's dair: filled with ****.

No, its a meteor :/

Meteor smashes can be meteor cancalled.

Spikes can't, you just die!

^_^

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

Well then, if a person is hanging from the ledge would Bowser's D-tilt be effective enough instead of D-air near the ledge?

 

[Phiddlesticks]

Ftilt angled down is the way to go

or fsmash if your opponent doesn't know about its hitbox

 

[Xyro77]

Vex! go play delta so i will know if u must face u in this low tier event or not

 

[B!squick]

I'm sorry, Xyro, but you needed to say your answer in the form of a question.

 

[Zaffy]

Does Bowser's D-air really make a small meteor smash at the end of the spin?

Because I'm going to make Bowser my secondary character (I know, a Meta Knight mainer who has Bowser as his secondary, nice change, right?)

It has a very small meteor smash, basically, so small that they could jump out and footstool your before you can do anything

 

[Kofu]

And it's, like, impossible to land with it unless you're very precise. I've done it... once.
Additionally, you need to be careful if you go off of the stage; if you do, you just might die.

 

[Zaffy]

My Question, why does Bowser have so many nearly-equal matchups, but no matchups in his favour?

 

[Vex Kasrani]

My Question, why does Bowser have so many nearly-equal matchups, but no matchups in his favour?

Bowser gets ***** by a few characters, has a slight disadvantage vs most of the cast, and beats only a few characters, Jiggs, Ganon, for example.

All his matchups except IC's is winnable though.

 

[MrEh]

Just try harder.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vex, how do you beat Olamer with Bowser?

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Vex, how do you beat Olamer with Bowser?

I'll try to make a decent write up for it now actually, I honestly don't believe its a terrible matchup, probably 6:4 Olimar favor

WoK(Wall of Klaw) is key to victory here, it beats Upsmash, so he can't just upsmash or grab your approachs now. Olimar's would probably think that since your in the air WoK'ing that they can just do an aerial or upb you, this is false. Because if olimar gets off the ground you should instantly just air dodge down and either

1. Upb to do damage

2. Try to obtain a grab from this situation(I recommend this)

Upb is safer and will probably always work, however getting a grab on Olimar is extremely important. Once you grab Olimar you can chaingrab him to the ledge into either

1. Klaw

2. Jump release Fair(I recommend this)

After this he is off stage at the mercy of Bowser, predict when he whistles or airdodges and bair it, if you do this successfully, he'll probably lose his stock.

This same situation can occur if they do a grounded Upb because I believe you can react to the Upb's initial startup if your predicting it'll happen.

Well I think this was my first informative write up on a Bowser matchup on this boards ^_^. Take this description as you will, this is all theorycraft but I would think this works considering I have done this to .com, ranked 5th in PA and PA's best Olimar.

 

[Cassius.]

That post was amazing o-o

I wanna write matchup summaries too! :/ Why does no one ever ask me anything :<

I know the answer to that question too >_>

 

[B!squick]

Yeah, despite what happened when we tried "discussing" Olimar, it's definitely in his favor. He's a small target with a wall of hitboxes at his disposal.

 

[Omnicron's Baklava Enterprises]

Yeah, despite what happened when we tried "discussing" Olimar, it's definitely in his favor. He's a small target with a wall of hitboxes at his disposal.

And his blasted little Pikmin with their grab range.

 

[Mister E]

Would you say Bowser an do good online or does he get ****ed over by lag?

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Would you say Bowser an do good online or does he get ****ed over by lag?

Potentially the worst character on wifi.

 

[Mister E]

Potentially the worst character on wifi.

Hmm.. What would bowsers largest weaknesses online then? the lack of Grabrelease possibilitys?

 

[Hobobloke]

Can't space correctly, can't powershield so you get ****ed over by projectile spam, can't time aerial klaw, can't chaingrab, can't time invincibility frames on recovery etc etc.

 

[MrEh]

He's fat.

He get's hit by everything.

 

[Flayl]

Spacing FAir horizontally is a ***** too. Not that there are many characters Bowser wants to do that against, but there it is.

I play a bunch of low tiers and even though Bowser is the one I have spent the most time on, they're all about equal for me online, lol.

 

[B!squick]

What it comes down to is that lag hurts Bowser more than most other characters. The only ones that are hindered more are ones like Wolf and Ganondorf when caught off guard by lag spikes and thus death when off stage.

 

[Hobobloke]

I consider Wolf a beast on Wifi.

 

[Cassius.]

Wolf isn't really a beast on Wi-Fi to me. I mean, at this point in Smash, no one can really get annoyed by Wolf's Blaster or Smash Attack abuse. Besides, good Wolves don't really abuse the C-Stick, right?

Also, his recovery is lol, and when Wi-Fi is involved, it becomes more lolable.

<_<

 

[Hobobloke]

no one can really get annoyed by Wolf's Blaster or Smash Attack abuse.

Ahhh but it's on Wifi

 

[Cassius.]

Ahhh but it's on Wifi

I'm more annoyed with Wolf's BAir than anything else he can dish out on Wi-Fi. Even if "Wifi sucks for Wolf", I can't shield those properly :/

Smash abuse? lolol. UpB. Besides, I really don't know any Wolves who can get by with Smash (oh God if I dare say this word) spam at this point, even on Wi-Fi.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

if your shielding Marths sideB can you upB OoS it at any point?