Kirby General Discussion

[Gimpyfish62]

i'm gonna stick this finally i think

*bowser fsmash?*

wait

*bowser taunt*

 

[mood4food77]

hahaha gimpy, getting used to the bowser fsmash


anyways, does anyone actually try to combo from the swallow

i mean, at higher levels it'll work since most opponents will try to break out, so swallow, let them airdodge/use a move that'll miss, then abuse the opportunity

i take full advantage of this...works pretty well

just don't do it all the time

 

[Jayferd]

I'm not sure how he did it, but Simna figured out how to bair me with his Ness immediately after I had spit him out. It was immensely annoying.

It works well against people who aren't accustomed to playing Kirbys (like most of Kirby's strategies, unfortunately). Once they figure out that they can break out of the star whenever they want and have all of their jumps and full control... it can backfire.

 

[t!MmY]

Ness can DJC (Double Jump Cancel) his b-air right as he breaks free. Everyone I play against regularly likes to fast fall D-airs on me and the only thing I can really do is shield or maybe dodge. Against people who don't know how to handle Kirbys, I can usually u-tilt, U-air, or B-air them as they try to figure out what to do.

 

[knightpraetor]

sorry to bother this thread..i did search the thread first for marth references..anyways, edgeguarding marth, what are the best options


actually i'd say already that if marth is off the best option is to go off after him..but assuming you don't have time...what is the best on the stage edgeguard? is dtilt any good? will it trade with the dolphin slash or will you just get hit while he recovers?

also, can the cutter be used to outrange the upb? sounds ridiculously hard to time but it is an option...i'm guessing sh bairs work too.but that's basically not going to hit any lower or with more range than a dtilt spaced..so it's still a question of whether it trades or whether you just get hit for nothing.

 

[t!MmY]

Yes, going after Marth when he's off the stage is a good idea since one hit can really ruin his recovery. If you don't have time, grab the ledge and edgehog quickly. You'll be in a good position to drop down and b-air him with invincibility frames when timed right. And there's always the fact that he has terrible landing lag if he makes it back to the stage. Practice KK Kid's Marth Trick with the light shield -> edge hog.

Dolphin Slash usually hits Kirby first, though if Marth is going up too high you might have time to move in and hit with a d-tilt or d-smash before he grabs the ledge. You can also try crouch cancel countering the Dolphin Slash (usually with a D-smash for the counter). This seems to work best with fast-fallers or heavier characters like Samus who have broken crouch canceling.

 

[knightpraetor]

k cool

Practice KK Kid's Marth Trick with the light shield -> edge hog

don't know what that is..unless of course KKKid's trick is lightshield edgehogging...i didn't realize kirby could do it though. that's cool

 

[SkaManifesto]

I have a question, why do all the "pro kirbies" Neglect the d/ftilts? I play my friends and stick to the ground and use d/ftilts, and it's really affective. I mean i dont see many of the pros using them, and if kirby really is a character that wants to push his oppenent back, why not sticka to a tilt game full of mind games?

 

[Pink Reaper]

lame, I cant believe gimpy closed our thread! Oh well we still have the general discussion thread to talk about how awesome the kirb isXD

 

[Gimpyfish62]

if you start talking in ANY WAY how that thread was i'll close this too and i'll warn everyone involved

this thread will be under supervision

 

[ye25]

Bowsers scaring all the little kirbies away. AHHH

 

[smasher32]

if you start talking in ANY WAY how that thread was i'll close this too and i'll warn everyone involved

this thread will be under supervision

o_O

and thus began the decimation of the kirby threads

 

[t!MmY]

I have a question, why do all the "pro kirbies" Neglect the d/ftilts?

D-tilt and F-tilt are very important to Kirby's gameplay, but you can just run around and spam them at anyone who's any decent at the game. If your tactics are stale, then your opponent will take advantage of that, find a way to counter them (not hard vs. Kirby), and then proceed to pwn you.

Additionally, the F-tilt has 32 frames of animation, the D-tilt has 29 frames of animation and they cannot be L-cancel'd. Compare that to Kirby's aerials that have 7 or 10 frames of lag when L-canceled and you'll see that it's better to use tilts as follow-ups or when spacing permits.

 

[Zhilo]

I usually ftilt after a l canceled dair, or a very obious tech chase oportunity presents itself. Other than that, I'll ftilt to poke enemies that are too smash happy.

 

[Pink Reaper]

At lower damages I try and get a dtilt after two quick jabs.

 

[Nashun]

ftilt/utilt are usually used to stop poorly spaced approaches. once your opponent knows how to space himself correctly, interruptions with those moves get VERY difficult and VERY risky.

dtilt is nice and all, but it has noticable lag.

 

[Pink Reaper]

granted you could also go for a tilt folowup attack. watch some t!m vids, you should see some shffld nair to ftilts in there

 

[psykoplympton]

dtilt owns marth after he misses a grab cuase you ducked.

 

[t!MmY]

Why not F-tilt... or D-smash (especially with Kirby's toes). D-tilt should be used more to interrupt an attack. If you know you can get a free hit in, there are better ones to use.

Gimpy, I think you scared everyone away. >_>

 

[Gimpyfish62]

actually all that happened was people actually started talking about the game, which is what this board is intended for...

AND WHATS THAT? A DOUBLE POST?!?!?

well i could warn you, but i'm just gonna use some ninja mod powers instead

 

[psykoplympton]

actually all that happened was people actually started talking about the game, which is what this board is intended for...

AND WHATS THAT? A DOUBLE POST?!?!?

well i could warn you, but i'm just gonna use some ninja mod powers instead

i agree with both t!mmy and gimpy

 

[Pink Reaper]

we didnt get scared off, we're all playing halo 3 right now!

 

[smasher32]

halo 3 is overrated

*banned*

 

[ye25]

I bet the Halo ppl are saying, brawl is overrated.

 

[Pink Reaper]

if anything brawl is underated! Everyone in the media is talking about mario galaxy as this years biggest wii title, even though we all know brawl will out sell it by millions.

 

[ye25]

The graphics will be too good to be fun!

 

[Gimpyfish62]

no more brawl or halo discussion, this is for melee kirby discussion only please stay on topic

 

[smasher32]

Here's some Kirby melee discussion:

Kirby's nair is the best move in the game

*gets banned again*

 

[IC3R]

Here's some Kirby melee discussion:

Kirby's nair is the best move in the game

*gets banned again*

It's definitely the cutest! I love the aerial lag animation...makes my heart sing...

. . .

Kirby's taunt owns all. Period.

 

[t!MmY]

That wasn't a double post Gimpyfish! That was me posting a day after my previous post but no one posted between the two... lol.

But now you're going to tell me to stay on topic so... >_> uh...
Boozer is cute.

*runs away*

 

[ye25]

Bowser is ugly.

*Sprints away*

 

[Deserter]

kirby should aoutomatically win when he eats ppl. because after your eaten you dont come out the some why you go in, if you know what i mean.

 

[t!MmY]

I totally disagree. They should just SD and lose a stock. That's much more fair.

 

[t!MmY]

I'll see you all at Super Champ Combo! Wait, no one here is going (except Gimpy)? I'll see if I can get a match or two recorded. Go Kirby!

 

[smasher32]

if it wasn't all the way in the freaking west coast, id go .

obligatory advice: use the boost to get through

 

[psykoplympton]

do a barrel roll! also not going to champ combo.

 

[Dodger]

Oh I guess I'm pink chopped liver then, eh T!mmy?

 

[Pink Reaper]

I wish i could go to champ combo

 

[ye25]

I wish i someone to spar against.

 

[smasher32]

I wish i someone to spar against.

I wish fragments were hilarious

Oh wait...

But srsly, if you live in east coast, I challenge you