BunBun
Smash Master
If you had to constantly play against Iori, you'd understand.
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Kirby General Discussion
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ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Iori sounds frustrating to play against, since he can beat most people with any character in the game.
Pi
Smash Hero
with kirby i find my recovery depends heavily on my opponent, and less so about myself. Can't really mix anything up w/ the lil guy lolHaha Bunbun, you're so down and out about Kirby lately. I know Kirby has a bad recovery, but I still find myself recovering the majority of the time. The only matchup I would call close to hopeless is fox, all the rest are easily doable.
But I think every match is possible and it's amazingly satisfying to taunt 3 times after killing your opponent, or suck them up for that last kill huehuehue
Massive
Smash Champion
This is only completely accurate on Final Destination.
If there are platforms around, you have a very small chance of making fox itch slightly.
Pi
Smash Hero
iori's p good
i wish i could play against him more often though
hella matchup experience
i wish i could play against him more often though
hella matchup experience
BunBun
Smash Master
Pi
Smash Hero
what do you do out of grab vs. fox...?
personally i put down the controller and give the fox player a long lecture on everything he did wrong and all the terrible choices he made in life that led up to him being grabbed by a Kirby.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
How far back do you go with your lecture?
ryuu seika
Smash Master
I'd say birth as they have few choices to make before that.
BunBun
Smash Master
Pi
Smash Hero
kirby vs. fox is tryhard
Actually I've found at mid % it's actually more reasonable to go for Uthrow even with no platform and attempt a tech chase out of it. Also at around 80% if they DI it in because they're stupid(or have never played Kirby before) = free Uair lol.
Massive
Smash Champion
I always dthrow fox (actually everyone but jiggs and luigi) and go for the tech-chase > dtilt/regrab.
If they tech in place you can start an utilt combo on them, if they get-up attack, you can always duck it.
If they tech in place you can start an utilt combo on them, if they get-up attack, you can always duck it.
Don't dthrow samus. Or marth.
Massive
Smash Champion
I could see samus, I just so rarely play against them on kirby I don't even think about it.
Why not marth?
Why not marth?
After about 30% marth can reverse up b you out of dthrow.
Massive
Smash Champion
That's awesome!
I think I'm going to keep doing it just to see this happen o_o
Triple R
Smash Lord
yeah, this is true.
Sago was the first person to show me this. I don't dthrow marth anymore lol.
Nashun
Smash Ace
That's nothing. Jiggs can rest you.
Edit: Luigi/Samus can nair you, Marth can upB you.
Dthrow is garbage, against so many characters nothing's guaranteed even if you guess their tech.
Edit: Luigi/Samus can nair you, Marth can upB you.
Dthrow is garbage, against so many characters nothing's guaranteed even if you guess their tech.
Unless it's a Fast Faller. And you're on a platform. Then it's amazing. Tech chase forever.
Nashun
Smash Ace
Oh my goodness i love that.
Then after like 2 repetitions they tech to the edge of the platform, let you dthrow them again and just float away into oblivion where Kirby is too slow to ever follow.
BunBun
Smash Master
That's when you utilt or dsmash instead of grab
Nashun
Smash Ace
Are you sure? I don't think the dthrow finishes fast enough.
if it's a fast faller you wont finish fast enough to tilt them but you WILL finish fast enough to run off Bair like I do lol
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
That makes no sense. U-tilt comes out in 4 frames.
Nashun
Smash Ace
And Dthrow ends like 30 frames after the hit actually occurs.
BunBun
Smash Master
No, I said, do it instead of the grab. If they tech towards the platform edge, dsmash instead of grabbing again.
Nashun
Smash Ace
oh. right LOL
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Just found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiOmXj9s0XA
It looks like a great laugh and would be broken as hell if it weren't so situational.
It looks like a great laugh and would be broken as hell if it weren't so situational.
Massive
Smash Champion
Kirby is garbage, dthrow is arguably his best throw though save the 2 or 3 situations where uthrow is better.
I want to try this, but the chances of it happening at any time, for any reason, ever make me think I have better odds of sticking with smash to pick up girls.ryuu seika said:
Nashun
Smash Ace
Uthrow is his best throw.
Edit: It does more damage.
Edit: It does more damage.
BunBun
Smash Master
It worked for darkrain.
Massive
Smash Champion
True that, good sir.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
I've just tested out that glitch and it's not hard to pull off against AI 8. It may, therefore, be more viable than I first thought but it's still unlikely to be much so. It would be hilarious if this became a real technique in that matchup but that seems a highly unlikely scenario.
Is didn't see the AI use Rollout at all during my match though, are you sure it has to be Rollout that hits me during my landing?
Is didn't see the AI use Rollout at all during my match though, are you sure it has to be Rollout that hits me during my landing?
Nashun
Smash Ace
It's not viable because nobody uses rollout.
BunBun
Smash Master
It's not viable because it takes too long to setup effectively anyway.
Although it is funny as hell to see flat Kirby.
Although it is funny as hell to see flat Kirby.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Which is why I'm asking about the necessity of Rollout. I never saw it used once in my AI match (except by me) so I'm wondering if it's possible to perform the glitch without it (I got one squishing). It could just be that the AI was dumb and thought countering Rollout with a last minute one of its own was a good idea but why would it do that?
Also, being only slightly flattened seems like a disadvantage. It seems to mess with Kirby's falling speed and it doesn't provide the level of unhittability that a proper flat Kirby does.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Man. If Kirby had a dash attack like Sheik's, think of how many scrubs would pick him and just spam that move. Haha.
Pi
Smash Hero
i like kirby's dash attack lol
it, like most of his moves, is pretty troll
it, like most of his moves, is pretty troll