Kirby General Discussion

[ryuu seika]

Flame juggling is fun.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Kirby's windmill of fury is the best windmill of fury.

 

[Pi]

windmill of fiery fury

 

[Nashun]

Pink Reaper knows what's up.

 

[Triple R]

So like a month ago was the first time ever I did the fire grab off a platform where I hit them with the dash attack and then got them with the grab right after in a REAL MATCH. Showing off that Kirby tech skill in Friendlies!

 

[Pink Reaper]

I already forgot how to do that lol.

Also been playing too much MvC3, Zero/Ammy/Sentinal(more like BROKEINAL mirite?) all day.

 

[BunBun]

So like a month ago was the first time ever I did the fire grab off a platform where I hit them with the dash attack and then got them with the grab right after in a REAL MATCH. Showing off that Kirby tech skill in Friendlies!

Now do it onto Randall.

 

[ryuu seika]

That sounds broken.

 

[Triple R]

Now do it onto Randall.

I love having that name. It makes these comments so fun to read.


So I need ideas of what to practice as Kirby. Any suggestions? Is there any uses for platformed cancelled hammer? Is it worth the trouble to get down with it's extremely strict timing/angle?

 

[BunBun]

Too situational, IMO, but I guess it's just one more tool.

I think movement is the #1 thing.
2nd to that is knowing that you don't slide off the left side of KJ64 =(

 

[ryuu seika]

Given the choice, you don't play on KJ64. Or atleast, I don't. It screws me over far too often.

 

[Massive]

Practice wave-dtilting.
It's like a ghetto waveshine.

 

[ryuu seika]

Would a Utilt not work well out of a wavedash as a combo starter?

 

[BunBun]

It can, but the low range makes it difficult

 

[ryuu seika]

Good point.
How's Dsmash out of a wavedash? Csticked, obviously.

 

[BunBun]

Not good. Too slow on recovery if it's blocked.

It's a huge commitment that is a free anything if it doesn't work.

 

[ryuu seika]

Ah, that makes sense.

 

[Pi]

prioritize the moves you want to land
then cycle through them subconsciously as situations arise
for example
your opponent wiffs a nair and is going to be forced to land
do you have time to :
utilt > grab? > fsmash/dsmash > jab grab > hammer?

idk his priority moves but do like that

you wanna try to at least take advantage of every opening given to you, safely
experience will allow you to milk the openings for all their worth

a lot of times i'll only feel safe landing a dash attack because i'm fox trotting/dash dancing
so i'll take it, instead of trying something more risky but more profitable

 

[BunBun]

Don't dash attack. Sometimes, it's honestly better to stay in a good position than dash attack, even if it's 'free'.

 

[Triple R]

I would have to agree. Dash attack should almost never be used. Even if you hit them at decent percents they could crouch cancel and then just usmash you way before you're even done with the attack, like fox lol. Our jiggz crouch cancel to rest, that's fun too!

 

[ChivalRuse]

Or they can just throw out any move to beat your dash attack outright.

 

[BunBun]

Besides, almost any time you'd be able to hit with a dash attack, you should be able to dash cancel grab or ftilt/dtilt instead.

 

[Massive]

True story, the only time I dash attack is when I flub a dash cancel grab.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Sooo ...

what's up, Kirby players?

Kirby is my new character.

 

[Pink Reaper]

My condolences for all your loses, past, present and future.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Losing with Kirby isn't very dissatisfying. NOW WINNING. HAHAHA. Also, Marth is beatable. xDDD

 

[Pink Reaper]

Yes, but dont ever tell marth players that, lest they learn from their mistakes.

 

[Pi]

losing w/ kirby sucks bro

 

[ChivalRuse]

How does it suck? It's not like it's unexpected or anything.

 

[BunBun]

Press B.
Sucks.

 

[ChivalRuse]

And I thought we only had puns in MD/VA.

 

[kittehg0d]

I was suprised when kirby was named the 2nd worst character in melee. i thought he was pretty good.

 

[Pink Reaper]

I wasnt, but then I was one of the people who voted him into that place.

 

[ChivalRuse]

You're a horrible person!

 

[ryuu seika]

Yeah, that's low PR.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Uair is really hard to aim.

 

[ryuu seika]

Really? I thought that was just my inadequacy...

 

[Massive]

Uair is really hard to aim.

It takes some getting used to, the hitbox isn't very big at all.

Try doing it while they're grounded and getting up on a platform above you or out of an utilt, it works great in both situations.
Additionally, you can use it as an upper corner shield poke on characters vulnerable to such things (gannondorf, Bowser, DK, G&W, Falcon).

Edit for anecdote:
I recently got to play M2K a bit in friendlies when he was in town a few weeks back. I decided to pull kirby on his fox after a few jiggs/falco/shiek/G&W matches.
To my surprise I was only 2 stocked, pretty similarly to most good foxes I play with kirby (IT IS SO HARD TO DO ANY BETTER, SO HARD).

The real gem was his response to getting utilt > uair'd: "OH MY GOD! IT'S SO F***ING STRONG!"

 

[BunBun]

Massive, have my babies

 

[Triple R]

The real gem was his response to getting utilt > uair'd: "OH MY GOD! IT'S SO F***ING STRONG!"

Haha. That made my day. EVERYONE says that the first time they get utilt uaired in a while! Makes me smile inside every single time.