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Pretty much this. It's useful in doubles with grabs, against walls, and in certain few other cases (Like on SV's platform if it's moving the right direction), but that's about it. Against mediocre players can be used as a mixup, since they might not SDI the right way and punish it, but that's about the best you can get, and that's a bad idea at a higher level of play anyway... I'd much rather Kirby have Mario's jab TBH...
Yes, we do know what frame-advantage is. We just like to play around and act ******** while talking in the "general discussion thread"...
And Kirby's jab does not give us any advantage at all, the hitstun it inflicts and the ending lag it has points that out easily (lowest hitlag possible (2-4? frames), 5-9 frames of endlag depending on if it's jab1/2/3)... We jab, and our opponents can do anything to us before we can do anything to them.
Wow, I'm gone for like 2 days and you guys make threads appear outta no where. Guess that's a good sign though. It was looking pretty dead around here for a little bit.
So I 0-deathed a falco as kirby yesterday (who hasn't), and it made me feel good about kirby. end of story
It doesn't stall and it can be punished very easily, Falco's jab is completely different, MK's jab is ****ing amazing. And by amazing I mean ***. I don't understand your logic at all.
Up b is useful if you can read an opponents aerial since its got transcendent priority, not much else aside from that.
The only good thing about MK's jab is that you can buffer something such as dtilt/dsmash (anything) out of it.
For Kirby's Up B, I like to use the projectile against recovering opponents when they're offstage. I've gotten a few final cutter->dair spike kills that way.
Well if we mindswap and you win, you have to split some with me. Oh....>_> and you'd have to end all your matches (that you're a stock ahead) with a Kirbicide. It's obviously the answer
I need help other Kirby mains!!!!!
So I'd like to think I'm a fairly competent Kirby (I didn't say good T_T). I feel like I've reached a 'ceiling' that I've been @ for a good while. I don't live near any good smashers unless you count Austin where I smashfest usually once a week. I for whatever reason can't get past my current skill level. Like....I'm stuck @ how well I play and since I can't practice with others I can't figure out what I should do to get better.
As far as I can tell I have a few options:
A. Quit whining and get better.
B. Switch characters for a little bit?
C. Wi-fail
D. Read....read....re-zzzzZZZzzzz -cough- er,..data.
DISCUSS!!!!
10hugs and cookies for excellent Kirby main to helpz.
Well if we mindswap and you win, you have to split some with me. Oh....>_> and you'd have to end all your matches (that you're a stock ahead) with a Kirbicide. It's obviously the answer
I need help other Kirby mains!!!!!
So I'd like to think I'm a fairly competent Kirby (I didn't say good T_T). I feel like I've reached a 'ceiling' that I've been @ for a good while. I don't live near any good smashers unless you count Austin where I smashfest usually once a week. I for whatever reason can't get past my current skill level. Like....I'm stuck @ how well I play and since I can't practice with others I can't figure out what I should do to get better.
As far as I can tell I have a few options:
A. Quit whining and get better.
B. Switch characters for a little bit?
C. Wi-fail
D. Read....read....re-zzzzZZZzzzz -cough- er,..data.
DISCUSS!!!!
10hugs and cookies for excellent Kirby main to helpz.
Its kinda hard to offer advice when you didn't post any vids with your question, but a piece of general advice I would give would be to try and be more patient, as well as study the top character's current metagames. Kirby is a punishing character, and unless you know what can and can't be punished you are going to have a difficult time staying ahead. Another piece of advise would be to try and play as seamlessly in your game as you can. Top players will rarely have a pause in their game, and if they do it will be intentional. Other than that, just practice and try your best. As long as you are having fun, the most important aspect of the game is already being fulfilled. Hope that helps. :-)
Did... Did you just compare Falco's jab to Kirby's?! Did you just compare both of theirs to MK's?!?!?!?
*brain fizzles*
Falco probably has the most useful jab in this game, especially considering that unlike one of it's few contenders, it isn't attached to a character as ****ty as Ike.
Well if we mindswap and you win, you have to split some with me. Oh....>_> and you'd have to end all your matches (that you're a stock ahead) with a Kirbicide. It's obviously the answer
I need help other Kirby mains!!!!!
So I'd like to think I'm a fairly competent Kirby (I didn't say good T_T). I feel like I've reached a 'ceiling' that I've been @ for a good while. I don't live near any good smashers unless you count Austin where I smashfest usually once a week. I for whatever reason can't get past my current skill level. Like....I'm stuck @ how well I play and since I can't practice with others I can't figure out what I should do to get better.
As far as I can tell I have a few options:
A. Quit whining and get better.
B. Switch characters for a little bit?
C. Wi-fail
D. Read....read....re-zzzzZZZzzzz -cough- er,..data.
DISCUSS!!!!
10hugs and cookies for excellent Kirby main to helpz.
-Pick up new characters. It can help you pick up new tricks/playstyles/get rid of bad habits/etc.
-Isolate things you need to work on, or bad habits you need to get rid of, and, next time you play, focus solely on that until you have it down. Winning or losing in friendlies is less important than improving. In some cases, if you're playing with someone you're used to playing against, make sure they tell you every time you mess up whatever it is you're working on. (For example, I used to have a spotdodge>Dsmash problem. Every time I spotdodged with Mario, I'd immediately Dsmash afterwards. I saw the problem, and couldn't seem to stop it, so I told my friend what I was doing, and to have him punish me for it until I finally stopped doing it. The rest of the game didn't matter quite as much to me as getting rid of that horrible habit.)
This can be spotdodging too much or too little, working on gimping/powershielding/baiting/etc., recovering safely, punishing, playing faster... It doesn't matter. Find what it is you need to improve on and work on it (Hell, even ask others what they tend to expect you to do if you need to).
Those are really the main two I can suggest, and I'd suggest doing both, though just the second can be enough too.
Yes he completely forgot that he occasionally gets contact to the outside world, he will record some matches at the smashfest.
Also something I've been working on for a few weeks now is working om my spacing/fastfalling and setups for kills, I've also taken up diddy for this, since diddy can almost always get a kill if your opponent even only screws up a little (lolnanerz)
lol, kirby's jab can piss off snakes that like to mortar slide. But D-throw spamming is more fun.
Also, when snowboarding, NEVER try to fasten your straps while going down a black diamond terrain park while singing "Don't stop me now". Does not end well...
HINT: Grind rails can and will stop you. now.
Also, I have a replay of getting a luigi in a semi- jab lock on the rainbow cruise boat (he got out after about 187% of damage, but I ended up accidentally doing an up-B under the boat)
Tater used RECOVER!
But it failed! (Probably the most logical Pokemon reference I've ever made while not playing Fire Emblem)
Hence the D-throw being more fun, still, punch n' run is always @$$-hatty, though Kirbicide still beats it, because Kirbicide is THE ANSWER. Seriously, If i ever go premium, my title's gonna be "SWF's King of Kirbicide"
Except what I was getting at was that you can't "punch 'n run", since if he SDIs it in either direction, he can Ftilt before you're done with the move.
Hence the D-throw being more fun, still, punch n' run is always @$$-hatty, though Kirbicide still beats it, because Kirbicide is THE ANSWER. Seriously, If i ever go premium, my title's gonna be "SWF's King of Kirbicide"
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