K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[bellboy64]

Staring at that awesome concept art sure did make me think up a few points.

>With or without Rareware Chunky gets shafted and Tiny and Lanky return.
>No Dixie Kong? Was Rareware more satisfied with Tiny? Perhaps her and Chunky are unlockable?
>I see Taj, maybe more Diddy Kong Racing representation could've made it in. Maybe Wizpig returns as the villain and Banjo with Kazooie guest as drivers (I wish so hard)?
>Kiddy Kong is back.....hard ****ing core!
>Cranky looks like he was going to be playable much earlier.
>Return of standard karts, instead of hovercrafts and airplanes we get animal buddies.
>I bet K. Rool would've been playable.

Either way, I can only imagine an alternate dimension where Rareware stuck with Nintendo and our dimensional counterparts with evil goatees are enjoying Donkey Kong Racing while playing as K. Rool and Ridley in Melee (shakes fist in the air).

I heard a whole history of DKRacing on one of the DK Vine audio programmes. (The Kongversation or the PoDKast can't remember which)
It's so tragic. I knew so little about it save for one little screenshot of DK on Rambi but everything they recounted sounded so incredible. It was going to be such a love letter to fans of DKC and it's universe.
(There was stuff from Donkey Kong Land in it for crying out loud! Kremlantis!!)

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

I actually think Melee was released before the rare buyout. Chris Seavor voices Peppy and Slippy in it, and Rare are mentioned in the credits. I have no idea why Banjo-Kazooie weren't included in that, but I'm sure that they'd have been in Brawl under different circumstances.

The only second-party characters in the series are the Pokemon. I think that had something to do with it.

 

[Snagrio]

It just doesn't seem fair. The (numerous) Fire Emblem threads are talking about three or even four slots, Kid Icarus just got a second one and there is speculation on a third, Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda are set to have about half a dozen each, and then there's all the new IPs shoving each other for a spot.

And here the DK section is struggling for a third rep after three games even though it is one of the top Nintendo franchises. @ BKupa666 is right; this thread, or at least some other third DK character, should've been in the returning veterans section by now. At least the Kremlings (and possibly Chunky Kong) give us hope this time around. If you ask me, while K. Rool would be great in his own right, it would take two DK newcomers to make up for the lack of attention in the past, because the fact that lesser series like Fire Emblem and Star Fox had/have/will have more reps is troubling. At least with Metroid there's a (poor) excuse for underplayed representation since its more of a Western-only favorite (even if Ridley gets in two of the selections are literally the same character with different playstyles), but DKCR alone has sold millions worldwide and is a well known franchise. It deserves far more then the past three entries have given it.

 

[Deleted member]

It just doesn't seem fair. The (numerous) Fire Emblem threads are talking about three or even four slots, Kid Icarus just got a second one and there is speculation on a third, Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda are set to have about half a dozen each, and then there's all the new IPs shoving each other for a spot.

And here the DK section is struggling for a third rep after three games even though it is one of the top Nintendo franchises. @ BKupa666 is right; this thread, or at least some other third DK character, should've been in the returning veterans section by now. At least the Kremlings (and possibly Chunky Kong) give us hope this time around. If you ask me, while K. Rool would be great in his own right, it would take two DK newcomers to make up for the lack of attention in the past, because the fact that lesser series like Fire Emblem and Star Fox had/have/will have more reps is troubling. At least with Metroid there's a (poor) excuse for underplayed representation since its more of a Western-only favorite (even if Ridley gets in two of the selections are literally the same character with different playstyles), but DKCR alone has sold millions worldwide and is a well known franchise. It deserves far more then the past three entries have given it.

I agree with this, though Metroid is in a worse case then DK, at least it got an important and recurring character, people are already considering Dark Pit because of the cameo in Palutena's trailer, freakin' Dark Pit's cameo is more evidence than enemies that hasn't appeared on the main series in a long time, in my opinion, Diddy should have already gotten into Melee so K. Rool could have been added in Brawl

 

[Snagrio]

I agree with this, though Metroid is in a worse case then DK, at least it got an important and recurring character, people are already considering Dark Pit because of the cameo in Palutena's trailer, freakin' Dark Pit's cameo is more evidence than enemies that hasn't appeared on the main series in a long time, in my opinion, Diddy should have already gotten into Melee so K. Rool could have been added in Brawl

I only give the lack of Metroid a little more slack because, despite what some may say, it isn't a globally popular franchise in the same league as Mario or Pokemon. Plus, unlike DK, it got multiple stages in both Melee and Brawl, so that's something. But regardless it deserves more.

As for the whole Dark Pit thing...yeah... I like him as a character, but to add a third character to a franchise that's only recently be revived after decades of absence is really pushing it. In fact I had a little discussion with @Headcrab Jackalope at the Plasm Wraith thread about how there's an overwhelming amount of KI enemies in Smash Run. So much for Sakurai not having favoritism for franchises he worked on.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The Sal Romano era: the era that should've never been.

Dixie is automatically at one disadvantage already: there are no new DKC stages shown yet, and that alone is a far better reason to keep back K.Rool than it is for Dixie. Plus, she also didn't show up on the release of Tropical Freeze, neither did she get tagged with Diddy.

So I won't worry. I still see K.Rool being more likely than her. At this point, it seems to be either K.Rool on the innitial roster, or no DKC characters on the innitial roster, and have Dixie as DLC. Or, K.Rool on the roster, Dixie as DLC. I'm actually not that worried yet, let me first see that DKC stage! It could be revealed in a similar way to Ike's reveal coupled with the Fire Emblem Arena.

I'm not even worried yet. Show us Chunky Kong already!

To be fair, that could be applied to every other Nintendo series with bare to no representation.
Not really a disadvantage, but we'll see a DKC stage eventually.

 

[Mr. KoopaTurtle]

What makes this all even more frustrating is that Sakurai knows about K. Rool's popularity. If Sakurai knew about Little Mac, a character who was only extremely popular in the West, then there is no doubt in my mind that he knows about K. Rool, who has gained popularity all across the world. I mean, this character should've been a shoe-in. I'm not kidding when I say that out of all potential newcomers, K.Rool makes the most sense. He's not even my most wanted, but it wouldn't make sense if he wasn't in this game.

 

[Deleted member]

What makes this all even more frustrating is that Sakurai knows about K. Rool's popularity. If Sakurai knew about Little Mac, a character who was only extremely popular in the West, then there is no doubt in my mind that he knows about K. Rool, who has gained popularity all across the world. I mean, this character should've been a shoe-in. I'm not kidding when I say that out of all potential newcomers, K.Rool makes the most sense. He's not even my most wanted, but it wouldn't make sense if he wasn't in this game.

Replace K. Rool with Ridley and you get the main argument for Ridley's inclusion
Anyway, K. Rool, Kremlings, playable, maybe, who knows
Btw, what does the K stands for in his name?

 

[Snagrio]

Replace K. Rool with Ridley and you get the main argument for Ridley's inclusion

Not quite in terms of international requests. Metroid, and Ridley by extension, isn't that popular in Japan. While Ridley is all the rage here, there isn't as much enthusiasm for him across the Pacific.

K. Rool is definitely a global request though.

 

[cephalopod17]

I wish Rare would of stayed with Nintendo. We probably would of seen Diddy in Melee, Third DKC Character and Banjo-Kazooie in Brawl and the fourth DKC character or Conker in Smash 4.

 

[Johnknight1]

Unless he ends up barely a trophy again. Ridley is either playable or a boss. K. Rool is either playable or a trophy.

I don't agree with either of these.

Other M Ridley could be a boss, while classic Ridley could be playable (I think it will happen that way), and K. Rool, if he's playable, will definitely be a trophy.

And honestly, judging by past history (pre-64, pre-Melee, pre-Brawl, and recently in the pre-Smash 4 era), it makes too much sense for us not to get both Ridley and K. Rool. All of our "Big 3's" have been playable (this time around it was Ridley, K. Rool, and Little Mac) and nearly all or all of our "Next Big 3's" have been playable as well (I guess it's like Chrom, Shulk, and Palutena).

So yeah, don't be pessimistic. Recent and long-passed history tells us we will get both K. Rool and Ridley.

(BTW, I like how this is the first post I made with my new avatar; thank you based @CrophMaruMariolu2W0vol41PEeeeeek )

 

[TheSmasher916]

So I was way too young during the Brawl speculation days to be avidly involved in the serious community, but I've been very curious, what was the general consensus about Ridley and K. Rool during the pre-Brawl days?

 

[UltimateWario]

So I was way too young during the Brawl speculation days to be avidly involved in the serious community, but I've been very curious, what was the general consensus about Ridley and K. Rool during the pre-Brawl days?

After Diddy Kong was revealed, I'm pretty sure most people were like "krool pls now". Up until that point, however, most people just wanted Diddy.

And Ridley was, well, Ridley.

 

[Johnknight1]

So I was way too young during the Brawl speculation days to be avidly involved in the serious community, but I've been very curious, what was the general consensus about Ridley and K. Rool during the pre-Brawl days?

Ridley after the cameo in 64 on Planet Zebes has always been fairly popular, and that grew and grew over time generally speaking. Once the top Brawl choices got confirmed one by one, his popularity skyrocketed. Ever since Brawl came out, he's been very popular.

As for K. Rool, it was all about Diddy in Melee and especially Brawl. Literally everything about Donkey Kong newcomers lived and died with Diddy Kong. Once we got Diddy confirmed, eh, we were mostly too hyped for Diddy. The K. Rool hype started there. Then once Brawl came out, the K. Rool hype shot up to where it is now. Since then, K. Rool has been one of the most requested characters.

 

[MasterWarlord]

So I was way too young during the Brawl speculation days to be avidly involved in the serious community, but I've been very curious, what was the general consensus about Ridley and K. Rool during the pre-Brawl days?

Kirby got two quality newcomers that game. No reason DK couldn't have. Would've been better than Meta Knight or Wolf.

Or a second rep for a Japan exclusive game that only the people who don't have it localized like.

 

[JaidynReiman]

So I was way too young during the Brawl speculation days to be avidly involved in the serious community, but I've been very curious, what was the general consensus about Ridley and K. Rool during the pre-Brawl days?

During the pre-Brawl days, K. Rool was barely considered because Diddy Kong wasn't even in yet, and Diddy wasn't announced until WAY late. I did think when playing the Subspace Emissary, though: "Wait, DK is fighting Bowser? Ugh, so annoying, would be WAY better if DK was able to fight the Kremlings and K. Rool."

On the road to SSB4 K. Rool has always been my top pick, but until I saw the Kremlings in Smash Run I basically wrote him off by saying "Dixie Kong is in Tropical Freeze, K. Rool is nowhere to be seen. I really, really think Dixie Kong is going to be the next DK rep, but K. Rool really deserves it more." Once I saw the Kremlings in Smash Run I completely changed my mind.

 

[Johnknight1]

Or a second rep

Not a rep, a playable character. Don't use that words. We play as the characters, not the icons.

Regardless, every new character in Brawl was a worthy addition, sans the Pokémon Trainer, who has been aborted (although his individual Pokémon IMO are worthy).

It just doesn't seem fair. The (numerous) Fire Emblem threads are talking about three or even four slots, Kid Icarus just got a second one and there is speculation on a third, Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda are set to have about half a dozen each, and then there's all the new IPs shoving each other for a spot.

Let them talk slots and reps.

We'll talk CHARACTERS based on their GAMEPLAY MERITS!!!

 

[BowserK.Rool]

I hate waiting for news and more directs from Sakurai regarding this game, I just want to know for sure who's playable and who's not even if they're unlockables!

 

[TCRhade]

I hate waiting for news and more directs from Sakurai regarding this game, I just want to know for sure who's playable and who's not even if they're unlockables!

September 13th and onward, my friend.

Also, why can't I stop dreaming about K. Rool? XD

 

[BowserK.Rool]

September 13th and onward, my friend.

Also, why can't I stop dreaming about K. Rool? XD

Because like most of us I'm sure, we all want him in so bad. It's funny, the day before E3 happened, I had a dream where they actually revealed K. Rool in the most badass trailer I've ever seen, unfortantley reality can be a b**** sometimes as we all know that did'nt really happen the next day.

 

[FalKoopa]

Just realised that we're only 4 days away from this threads 2nd anniversary. Wow, time sure flies.

 

[Z1GMA]

Give us K.Rool and Ridley already, sakurai.

 

[Zynux]

Give us K.Rool and Ridley already, sakurai.

Sakurai: *laughs*

 

[Dr.Turtle]

Count me in with the supporters.

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

Say you guys, I just thought of a precedent and a tangent, when during Brawl's development was the Halberd(Kirby's rival Metaknight's ship) revealed, and when was Meta-Knight himself revealed? because that could be used as a parallel to our theory, as The Halberd hadn't been seen outside of Kirby superstar, any of K.Rool's memorable bases haven't been seen since the SNES era

 

[JaidynReiman]

Count me in with the supporters.

This is obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erH-WHtLRmU&list=PLp6zKCp4ysjNy0VcyW6dxBjxf4tf1s6FJ&index=7

Say you guys, I just thought of a precedent and a tangent, when during Brawl's development was the Halberd(Kirby's rival Metaknight's ship) revealed, and when was Meta-Knight himself revealed? because that could be used as a parallel to our theory, as The Halberd hadn't been seen outside of Kirby superstar, any of K.Rool's memorable bases haven't been seen since the SNES era

Metaknight and his stage were both revealed in the very first announcement trailer, in fact, Metaknight was the very FIRST newcomer revealed (also interesting that the very first new stage revealed was Castle Siege, long before we knew it had anything to do with Fire Emblem or even had a Fire Emblem character announced).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnhko5Zrbr4&feature=kp

 

[MandoBardanJusik]

The first newcomers in that game were so much more epic, on the other hand, that was almost all of them, and there goes that idea

 

[JaidynReiman]

The first newcomers in that game were so much more epic, on the other hand, that was almost all of them, and there goes that idea

The problem is that Sakurai revealed too much too early, which is why the general consensus now is that we've got a few of the more popular requests being saved as unlockables this time.

 

[Deleted member]

I hate waiting for news and more directs from Sakurai regarding this game, I just want to know for sure who's playable and who's not even if they're unlockables!

And this is why I hate the Pic of the Day and waiting for two months just to know what newcomer got in the game.
*sigh* If this was the old DOJO!!, we probably would have seen King K. Rool by now... (assuming he's in, of course)

 

[JaidynReiman]

And this is why I hate the Pic of the Day and waiting for two months just to know what newcomer got in the game.
*sigh* If this was the old DOJO!!, we probably would have seen King K. Rool by now... (assuming he's in, of course)

Which is the problem; then he would have any surprises left for release. He probably doesn't want K. Rool to get out now assuming K. Rool is in. (Also, the Dojo wasn't running for nearly as long, either.)

 

[pupNapoleon]

Regardless, every new character in Brawl was a worthy addition, sans the Pokémon Trainer, who has been aborted (although his individual Pokémon IMO are worthy).

Let them talk slots and reps.

We'll talk CHARACTERS based on their GAMEPLAY MERITS!!!

Ha.
Pokemon Trainer is the gameplay merit of pokemon dude. You aren't Pikachu or Lucario in the in games.

 

[Snagrio]

There's another annoyance with PotDs: pointless filler. A good chunk of daily pics don't really give us anything worthwhile. I get that there's slow times and that you can't get something amazing every time, but still there's quite a few where nothing happens in either image or text. Though admittedly with the launch so close things have picked up a little.

But yeah, K. Rool.

 

[MasterWarlord]

September 13th and onward, my friend.

Also, why can't I stop dreaming about K. Rool? XD

I once had a dream that K. Rool took four slots on the roster with his king, kaptain, baron, and boxer personas.

 

[TCRhade]

I dreamed about him again last night...

He was playable in the 3DS demo where I went, and he had his belly flop attack from DK Land. Damn dreams...

 

[Deleted member]

I once had a dream that K. Rool took four slots on the roster with his king, kaptain, baron, and boxer personas.

And how many slots did Ridley take?

 

[TheAnvil]

Do the Japanese audience want K. Rool at all, how does he rate in terms of most requested characters over there?

 

[KodyTauros]

Do the Japanese audience want K. Rool at all, how does he rate in terms of most requested characters over there?

I tend to hear he's always up there on the Japanese polls, but I don't know entirely for sure.

 

[BlitznBurst]

Btw, what does the K stands for in his name?

King.

 

[Deleted member]

King.

No, the K in King K. Rool

 

[BlitznBurst]

No, the K in King King Rool

seriously man what did you think it stood for