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Canada [Jul 26, 2014] B.C. Brawl Monthlies - Back in business, now featuring Smash 64! (Burnaby, BC)

Alphicans

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It's not absurd Arcansi. If you do exactly what I described then you should be improving, it's kind of how humans works. My best two guesses are you aren't doing what I described, or you're incapable of further improvement.
 

michael_li

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I dunno I always thought tech skill is actual skill.

I'm not *that* bad at Brawl and I honestly keep the decision making and reads to a minimum.
execution(tech skill) combined with superb spacing, solid follow ups, good combos, flawless approaches, proficient tech chases(reads), good recoveries and patience
is skill :embarrass:
 

Kantrip

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Ah yeah you're waiting for B/W2 to do your **** I forgot about that.

I have a 3DS already, should I buy one of B/W2?
 

`dazrin

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I dunno I always thought tech skill is actual skill.

I'm not *that* bad at Brawl and I honestly keep the decision making and reads to a minimum.
Techskill is raw skill. It isn't refined. It's simply the execution with nothing behind it.

Mindgames is mental skill. It's knowledge, and nothing more. Without proper execution, this is just theorysmash.

When both are combined, it becomes true skill. Refined and ready to be applied in a match.
 

Kantrip

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Yes. You can competitive with me. Need training partner. Can't express enough how much yes.
If only I were actually good.

"Training partner" and "competitive" means I actually have to put effort into raising viable pokes, doesn't it?

I'll get the game and come up with a team and see if I actually get motivated enough to make it in-game, how about that? :bee:
 

T-block

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It's not absurd Arcansi. If you do exactly what I described then you should be improving, it's kind of how humans works. My best two guesses are you aren't doing what I described, or you're incapable of further improvement.
you do need to actively train your subconscious first, no? you can throw the decision making back to the emotional part of the brain, but it needs to learn the patterns in the first place.
 

_GrapE_

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If only I were actually good.

"Training partner" and "competitive" means I actually have to put effort into raising viable pokes, doesn't it?

I'll get the game and come up with a team and see if I actually get motivated enough to make it in-game, how about that? :bee:
I will help you make a team Shedinja can be used in.
 

Kantrip

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I'll probably get it when I catch up on all my late homework, which I should be able to do over the long weekend.
 

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guitar hero is all techskill, chess is all mental skill

brawl is somewhere in the middle
 

Arcansi

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guitar hero is all techskill, chess is all mental skill

brawl is somewhere in the middle
Memorizing is tech skill, by definition.

So chess isn't all mental skill.

Yes. You can competitive with me. Need training partner. Can't express enough how much yes.
Next time, contact me.

You have NO IDEA how much time I spend on any competitive game I can get my hands on.

I could become a competitive pokemon player in like thirty minutes, although only on smogon.

The main problem I have with pokemon is that team composition seems to be a large part of you winning, but I don't fully understand the game's depth, so I could be wrong.

It's not absurd Arcansi. If you do exactly what I described then you should be improving, it's kind of how humans works. My best two guesses are you aren't doing what I described, or you're incapable of further improvement.
Oh, the theory worked fine. The problem was that what worked online didn't work offline, and logically the only reason was 'x used to = y, now it = z.' The human brain doesn't tend to like that with patterns.

Roll > F-smash even on Wifi should not work on a player with even a shred of knowledge of this game in 2012.
You would be surprised what works on wifi.

Tech skill adds its own sort of depth into fighting games and it's learning curve usually depends on the player. Some tend to pick things up rather quickly while others take longer. It's not always about who has the most time to practice. To assume that learning tech skill = requires lots of practice, therefore lots of time isn't necessarily true.
This is true, I did generalize.

And since we're talking about Brawl I find it even funnier that we're even complaining about tech skill lmao. Yes it's there, but to a far lesser degree than Melee. On a personal note it's one of the things that I find appealing about competitive fighting games.
It tends to be appealing at an inverse proportion to someone's appreciation of non-technical skill.
 

Kantrip

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I'm not a complete slouch when it comes to building teams, but I am curious as to what you come up with.

Err... Cloyster's cool. Politoed was my favourite before he got Drizzle but he's still pretty cool, albeit very over-used. Really though, if you're able to just go wild and make it as good a team as possible with the Shedinja limitation then that's great. If you'd rather have my suggestions... well Gliscor and Rotom-W were viable when I was in the metagame and they're pretty cool. Stalling is fun. :smirk:
 

Kantrip

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comes out on oct 7

defs put sand stream hippowdon on your shedinja team imo. very solid pokemon /nod
That sounds pretty amazing actually. Really stronk mindgame against my opponents when I send my Shedinja into the storm to stall them. Would you suggest Substitute and Rest on him in that team comp?

Yeah Kev water types are fantastic. Used to be my favourite but now they're second to ghost types, unfortunately. While I don't really like Jellicent's design (actually **** it no he's awesome) he does have the coolest typing in the game :awesome:
 

Kantrip

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Arcansi you should get it too. You're probably more likely to get immersed into competitive Pokemon and stick with it longer. The more training Caiden can get, the better I'd imagine.
 

Arcansi

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I will start working on a Shedinja team you'd like. Give me 2-3 other decently viable Pokemon you like, so I can integrate maybe a couple of them.
What's the ETA on dream world ditto?

Arcansi you should get it too. You're probably more likely to get immersed into competitive Pokemon and stick with it longer. The more training Caiden can get, the better I'd imagine.
I'm at a base level extremely unlikely to get immersed into competitive Pokemon. (High entrance time hurdle, High level of randomness 'Surf vs Hydro Pump'.)

But if friends are doing it that changes. Not that I'll be playing to train Caiden. I'll be playing to beat him.
 

Alacion

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I plan to buy Black 2 on Sunday if they are not sold out by the time I go to the store.

Good thing I have my back-up store that never fails me.
 

T-block

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That sounds pretty amazing actually. Really stronk mindgame against my opponents when I send my Shedinja into the storm to stall them. Would you suggest Substitute and Rest on him in that team comp?

Yeah Kev water types are fantastic. Used to be my favourite but now they're second to ghost types, unfortunately. While I don't really like Jellicent's design (actually **** it no he's awesome) he does have the coolest typing in the game :awesome:
just hack memento onto shedinja instead

but real talk, i had a lot of success with trick room reuniclus back in the day
 

Kantrip

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Rules said:
It's important to note that only BW1 cartridges will be allowed, and no BW2 TMs or move tutors will be allowed to be used at the October events.
This doesn't apply to what you're preparing for does it?

Oh man yeah Black 2 or White 2. The ultimate decision. I got White 1 so I'll probably get Black 2 for the sake of maintaining balance and racial equity, not that I take it that way or anything....
 

_GrapE_

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It's pretty simple once you're used to it, which won't be long.

The team is: Cresselia, Hydreigon, Metagross, Rotom-w, Shedinja, Gliscor, and Sableye as a sub.

I can get into the specifics of it later. I just don't want to type that much right now.
 

Arcansi

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Players may use Pokémon with Hidden Abilities that have been officially released via Pokémon Black Version and Pokémon White Version, the Pokémon Global Link, or an official event or promotion.

This seems like it includes DW abilities that have been released.

EDIT: Apparently bidoof was almost banned because of Moody. I understand why moody is good, but why bidoof?
 
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