Alphicans
Smash Hero
Lasers do like 1% though. They're safer and generally free damage, but eggs do so much more. After playing falco for so long, I just find him to be a not so great character.
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Canada [Jul 26, 2014] B.C. Brawl Monthlies - Back in business, now featuring Smash 64! (Burnaby, BC)
- Thread starter ~Firefly~
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HNG
Smash Journeyman
o. k.what
Is this more legit than it looks like it is? >.> It really, REALLY looks to me like HNG made that up.
I mean, it's not like anybody's gonna take it seriously either way...but I am pretty confused right now. =s
I copy and pasted that from the email notification I got notifying me that a new reply was on this thread and I copy pasta'd skidds post. I'll printscreen the email copy when I get home ;oooo
luckily jake has a new projectile anyways, tornado.
I find falco actually really hard to deal with unless I resort to the chain grab. Honestly I find that for all spacies, I just suck against them without that grab. Maybe I just have a problem with tunnel vision though.
I find falco actually really hard to deal with unless I resort to the chain grab. Honestly I find that for all spacies, I just suck against them without that grab. Maybe I just have a problem with tunnel vision though.
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I'm pretty sure I would be beating Falco's as PT if it weren't for the chain grab. I feel really good in that matchup for some reason, but starting down by 60+% every stock is just barely too much to overcome.
Let's ask this question:
How well do eggs limit your opponent's options? How well do lasers limit your opponent's options?
Let's ask this question:
How well do eggs limit your opponent's options? How well do lasers limit your opponent's options?
Alphicans
Smash Hero
Depends on the character a lot.
Take GaW for example. Lasers really take away his ground game, but his air game is still very useable. Getting in on him is difficult but not too bad. Yoshi's eggs on the other hand, make his air game really bad, and turns what would be a really **** match-up into even.
GaW hates eggs more than lasers overall. For MK and wario it's probably the same, while snake will have an easier time with eggs than lasers.
Take GaW for example. Lasers really take away his ground game, but his air game is still very useable. Getting in on him is difficult but not too bad. Yoshi's eggs on the other hand, make his air game really bad, and turns what would be a really **** match-up into even.
GaW hates eggs more than lasers overall. For MK and wario it's probably the same, while snake will have an easier time with eggs than lasers.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
Actually, please don't. I think some people have made it very clear they don't want this stuff posted. >.>o. k.
I copy and pasted that from the email notification I got notifying me that a new reply was on this thread and I copy pasta'd skidds post. I'll printscreen the email copy when I get home ;oooo
It's not the same for MK unless they play the match-up poorly. Yeah, Eggs are good for dealing with Dair camping, but he really doesn't need to be doing that anyway. A patient ground game does wonders for MK against Yoshi, much more so than characters like GaW or Wario. I must say though, hitting Wario with eggs is hard. >.> Eggs are actually pretty good against Snake too, though probably not as good as lazers.
Arcansi
Smash Champion
And they give him bucket.
isn't a bucket of lasers like the weakest bucket possible? It also takes away bucket braking and leaves him open for punishment if he actually takes the lasers.
Arcansi
Smash Champion
Bucket is still an amazingly strong approach.
Alphicans
Smash Hero
Bucket is good to have at low % because it takes away the CG, and also does a lot of damage for a 2 frame move. Bucket is always worth having.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
Alphicans
Smash Hero
The invincibility comes out in one frame, the oil spill hitbox comes out on frame 2 or 3, I forget :/, but yeah, the move is ****ing godlike.
EDIT: I was right saying the hitbox comes out on frame 2. The move also lasts close to a full half second.
EDIT: I was right saying the hitbox comes out on frame 2. The move also lasts close to a full half second.
Arcansi
Smash Champion
Why aren't we on it already?
| Big D |
Smash Master
If we do use unity, players can both agree to pictochat.
As for D3... it's totally because of me I know right? But seriously, I don't care if you leave it in or not.
I recently learned how to do CG > Buffered upsmash.
As for D3... it's totally because of me I know right? But seriously, I don't care if you leave it in or not.
I recently learned how to do CG > Buffered upsmash.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
I don't love Picto as much as I used to. I have no problem seeing it banned TBH.
On another note, I'm pretty sure the only relevant infinites here until now have been Yoshi/ZSS's grab releases on Wario.
Actually, we probably do have to think more about infinites now if you have a D3...especially if you know enough to be able to do the buffered Usmash. o.0
if you're playing against diddy kong and you ban FD, why would you agree to picto? Same idea with falco, and same idea with sonic except with YI and picto.
For the phoenix event in September I think we should definitely use unity since it was intended for use at bigger events (and I think this will count as a regional if WA and AB come). For the august monthly (assuming it exists) it's probably no big deal either way.
For the phoenix event in September I think we should definitely use unity since it was intended for use at bigger events (and I think this will count as a regional if WA and AB come). For the august monthly (assuming it exists) it's probably no big deal either way.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
Even if counting as a regional meant anything, it wouldn't matter because Unity is US only.
| Big D |
Smash Master
Happy endings are where the lulz is at with Dedede.
But as far as infinites go, ZSS's on Wario can be escaped by buffering your bike. I've never heard of Yoshi having an infinite but I'll look into it. There are a lot of infinites, some easier than others.
I've started to learn the ZSS one on ROB.
But as far as infinites go, ZSS's on Wario can be escaped by buffering your bike. I've never heard of Yoshi having an infinite but I'll look into it. There are a lot of infinites, some easier than others.
I've started to learn the ZSS one on ROB.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
Yeah, Yoshi just grab releases, does a standing grab, and repeats. It's really impractical because we only get pummel damage and the timing is kind of strict, but it's there.
| Big D |
Smash Master
I don't know how hard the timing is but I guess Wario should ban FD in this situation.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
Theoretically, yes, but going that long without messing up isn't easy...
Wario wants to ban FD either way...especially seeing how Yoshi can Usmash, Fsmash, and Uair him out of release as well.
Deap
Smash Ace
Deap
Smash Ace
if anyone wants to join our crazy conversation add me dannieel92@gmail.com
or if anyone wants to now why i wont pay to sion.
or if anyone wants to now why i wont pay to sion.
Deap
Smash Ace
sion stop acting like if you were a ganster or something like that, in RL you are just another shy chinese guy.
dont do that, its just stupid.
dont do that, its just stupid.
Arcansi
Smash Champion
ITT: Irony
HNG
Smash Journeyman
LOL. HOW AM I ACTING GANGSTER. I ain't even gangster YO!!!
also lol. you don't know anything about me.
| Big D |
Smash Master
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Deap, I will start infracting if you don't stop multi-posting.
Jake fine with seeing Pictochat banned? I'm disappointed =\
Jake fine with seeing Pictochat banned? I'm disappointed =\
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
I'm fine with YI getting banned too.
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B2B TST
You better be serious.
Because you know I'm serious.
Because you know I'm serious.
~Firefly~
Smash Hero
If I want to mess around with slopes, I can just go to Delfino, or even Lylat. Besides, the shy guys always get in the way of my eggs. D=<
Deap
Smash Ace
Arcansi
Smash Champion
Actually you do, unless your stereotyping.
Which says a lot about you, mainly that you don't know him very well.
Crisis
Smash Ace
I hope these arguments aren't for serious...